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Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:06 AM

why do drug mules keep tryin to get thru customs?
 
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t3

i just don't get it. there are thousands of miles of unfenced border. you could buy a 50 dollar raft at the mall & float over the border in some spots.

but dumbasses still try to walk into an airport, into a customs kiosk, & try to pass 4 keys through an xray machine.

seriously are people really that dumb?

:helpme

_Richard_ 11-01-2013 09:07 AM

no, so the question is how often are they successful

Sly 11-01-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856470)
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t3

i just don't get it. there are thousands of miles of unfenced border. you could buy a 50 dollar raft at the mall & float over the border in some spots.

but dumbasses still try to walk into an airport, into a customs kiosk, & try to pass 4 keys through an xray machine.

seriously are people really that dumb?

:helpme

Well, it's pretty obvious that enough of them are getting through. ;-)

When you have nothing to lose, like most of these people, what does it matter?

O MARINA 11-01-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856470)
seriously are people really that dumb?

:helpme



Yes. And Desperate.

woj 11-01-2013 09:13 AM

probably 1% get caught, when they do, it's big news... :1orglaugh

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19856471)
no, so the question is how often are they successful

why even try? i know if i am transporting 5 figures in blow, i don't want anyone checking anything, ever. Do these mules think there is no other option?

woj 11-01-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856484)
why even try? i know if i am transporting 5 figures in blow, i don't want anyone checking anything, ever. Do these mules think there is no other option?

product is virtually free, mules are dispensable, and considering only few get caught, why not?

Sly 11-01-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856484)
why even try? i know if i am transporting 5 figures in blow, i don't want anyone checking anything, ever. Do these mules think there is no other option?

They are poor and/or have family trouble of some sort, have the cartel breathing down their back, and risk deportation.

Again, what does it matter? Are they really losing? Sure they might, might, serve a little time, but will most likely just be deported after a brief stint.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19856474)
Well, it's pretty obvious that enough of them are getting through. ;-)

When you have nothing to lose, like most of these people, what does it matter?

i guess that some are able to get thru the net.

But why take the chance? u couldnt be bothered to take the extra step to get over the border without the scrutiny of a customs agent?

woj 11-01-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856495)
i guess that some are able to get thru the net.

But why take the chance? u couldnt be bothered to take the extra step to get over the border without the scrutiny of a customs agent?

it's not "some", it's probably like 95%+... I bet you they successfully smuggled dozens of these pumpkins before someone asked: "what's up with all these pumpkins?"... and decided to look into it closer... :2 cents:

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19856488)
product is virtually free, mules are dispensable, and considering only few get caught, why not?

its simply a matter of odds. The odds of getting thru an airport vs the odds of hiking over a desolate area & getting pinched. i guess i cant relate to the desperation of people & they may not know better.

but there are 2 hundred channels of TV & some of them are just about border wars or drugs inc & they show you the tech that goes into these searches. The days of wiring in 2 functions to magicically open up the dashboard are long gone.

Rochard 11-01-2013 09:25 AM

At this point they are growing pot inside of the US. Seems they find a patch of forest near a river and set up a small farm where no one can see them.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19856489)
They are poor and/or have family trouble of some sort, have the cartel breathing down their back, and risk deportation.

Again, what does it matter? Are they really losing? Sure they might, might, serve a little time, but will most likely just be deported after a brief stint.

depends. if they have a family, there is much to lose. & i dont buy into the poverty = nothing to lose idea. Once you have a rap sheet, the only job your getting is wendys drive thru (or a govt job if your the proper color)

woj 11-01-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856501)
its simply a matter of odds. The odds of getting thru an airport vs the odds of hiking over a desolate area & getting pinched. i guess i cant relate to the desperation of people & they may not know better.

but there are 2 hundred channels of TV & some of them are just about border wars or drugs inc & they show you the tech that goes into these searches. The days of wiring in 2 functions to magicically open up the dashboard are long gone.

hiking is hard and dangerous work, you are risking not only jail time but your own life too... it's not like it's some few hour hike, it's more like 7 days with little water/food/etc... something goes wrong = you are dead...

_Richard_ 11-01-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856508)
depends. if they have a family, there is much to lose. & i dont buy into the poverty = nothing to lose idea. Once you have a rap sheet, the only job your getting is wendys drive thru (or a govt job if your the proper color)

if your life works one day at a time, you plan for one day at a time

if you're smuggling drugs for cartels, your life definitely is a one day at a time event.

JockoHomo 11-01-2013 09:34 AM

Excellent movie on this very topic. Must see movie!

Teenage girl from Colombia. Shows how they have several of them on the planes and how it's a numbers game...Had my heart pounding each time she went threw customs.

Maria Full Of Grace

Sly 11-01-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856508)
depends. if they have a family, there is much to lose. & i dont buy into the poverty = nothing to lose idea. Once you have a rap sheet, the only job your getting is wendys drive thru (or a govt job if your the proper color)

Why would a Nicaraguan farmer care about working at an American Wendy's drive-through or getting a rap sheet?

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19856512)
hiking is hard and dangerous work, you are risking not only jail time but your own life too... it's not like it's some few hour hike, it's more like 7 days with little water/food/etc... something goes wrong = you are dead...

i think my problem is...i am a 6 foot 3 male with some brains, so a hike like that is not a serious problem to me. But if your a 5 foot female of limited means, maybe the equation is different.

mostly i just wonder how people still roll the dice on a customs search when there are other options. i dont relate to the needs of a poor drug mule with limited educations.

there were 3 american girls, young women, who were busted in peru recent, smuggling some keys. i guess walking from peru to the USA is not really an option.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19856532)
Why would a Nicaraguan farmer care about working at an American Wendy's drive-through or getting a rap sheet?

good point. But mostly i am flummoxed at the intelligent design. i think the answer is i do not relate to the desperation & lack of education of some of the mules.

maybe drug smuggling is not so easy as i think it is.

DWB 11-01-2013 09:41 AM

Sometimes they are forced. Cartels kidnap family members or children and give them a choice, carry our drugs or we kill them. Other times they are just poor people, often in trouble or under a huge financial burden, and they take the risk. Most of the time it pans out, but for the few who get caught, game over.

Some of them are also tricked, and paid well to transport make-up or gourmet coffee to a potential client. What they don't know is the luggage, or box walls, or inside the bag, has drugs in it. They are getting very clever about it to, like building entire make-up kit boxes out of cocaine or heroin. The girl usually doesn't know better and thinks she found a great new job. Six months later, she's facing a firing squad in Vietnam.

freecartoonporn 11-01-2013 09:52 AM

very low % get caught.

yay its Halloween let bring the pumpkins through customs.

SteveHardeman 11-01-2013 10:01 AM

You often provide a lot of real-world clarity in your posts.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...-death-penalty

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19856545)
The girl usually doesn't know better and thinks she found a great new job. Six months later, she's facing a firing squad in Vietnam.


theking 11-01-2013 10:11 AM

I once heard a DEA spokesman say they stop about 2% of the drugs so 98% get through...of course that is 2% of all the methods that are used. I thought that it was not very bright to announce that on a national TV. Hell with those kind of odds of not being caught compared to the pay off...I was almost ready to give it a shot.

To me the real concern is not getting caught...but is dealing with the people that you have to deal with.

DWB 11-01-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 19856579)
You often provide a lot of real-world clarity in your posts.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...-death-penalty

Living over here has really opened my eyes to some grim realities taking place. Plus, I've come to know a few girls who have been trafficked themselves, escaped sex slaves, and other extremely shady characters I've met through this business and through general mischievousness.

Drug mules being arrested hits the news over here all the time. Doesn't always make the English news here, but at least every few days on the local language outlets some girl is caught and is usually going to get the death penalty. It's heart breaking, because most of them (from here) are clueless. However, some are guilty and know the risks, but it's the true innocent ones that are tragic. On the flip side, they are always arresting Africans coming into or going out of Bangkok, sometimes males, so it goes both ways.

Many SE Asian nations give the death penalty, so it's always curtains when they are caught. The first time I flew into Taiwan many years ago there was a big red warning paper they handed out saying they execute drug traffickers. Not knowing the ins and out of their system, and having a bunch of Ambien sleeping pills and a few Xanax, I went to the bathroom and flushed them all, just to be safe.

My girlfriend witnessed a Japanese mule from her flight get caught in Malaysia (mandatory death penalty) once on her way to Bali to meet up with me. They drug her off kicking and screaming, as you can imagine, it caused quite a scene. I assume she's dead by now or awaiting her day.

I'm assuming they are still up, but in some Colombian international airports they have signs warning girls to not be drug mules. I doubt many listen, but they can't say they were not warned. IMHO, that sort of warning should be at every airport in the world with a message giving the girl a chance to at the very least have her luggage inspected if it is not hers, and no harm would come to her if she goes this route first. A last chance out for anyone taking a risk or carrying ANYTHING that doesn't belong to them.

bigpappa17934 11-01-2013 11:02 AM

New business idea for anyone looking..... You can purchase drones for personal use that will carry up to 10 kilos and travel several hundred miles completely undetected.... Could you imagine being in the transportation business now???? ha ha ha

SteveHardeman 11-01-2013 11:05 AM

It's a fucked up world in which we live. Life is precious until it's not.

I think I want to buy you a pair of google glasses and just live vicariously through you in real time. Just, like, if you have some secret hobby where you sometimes suck a lot of dick, turn them off at that time please. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19856705)
Living over here has really opened my eyes to some grim realities taking place. Plus, I've come to know a few girls who have been trafficked themselves, escaped sex slaves, and other extremely shady characters I've met through this business and through general mischievousness.

Drug mules being arrested hits the news over here all the time. Doesn't always make the English news here, but at least every few days on the local language outlets some girl is caught and is usually going to get the death penalty. It's heart breaking, because most of them (from here) are clueless. However, some are guilty and know the risks, but it's the true innocent ones that are tragic. On the flip side, they are always arresting Africans coming into or going out of Bangkok, sometimes males, so it goes both ways.

Many SE Asian nations give the death penalty, so it's always curtains when they are caught. The first time I flew into Taiwan many years ago there was a big red warning paper they handed out saying they execute drug traffickers. Not knowing the ins and out of their system, and having a bunch of Ambien sleeping pills and a few Xanax, I went to the bathroom and flushed them all, just to be safe.

My girlfriend witnessed a Japanese mule from her flight get caught in Malaysia (mandatory death penalty) once on her way to Bali to meet up with me. They drug her off kicking and screaming, as you can imagine, it caused quite a scene. I assume she's dead by now or awaiting her day.

I'm assuming they are still up, but in some Colombian international airports they have signs warning girls to not be drug mules. I doubt many listen, but they can't say they were not warned. IMHO, that sort of warning should be at every airport in the world with a message giving the girl a chance to at the very least have her luggage inspected if it is not hers, and no harm would come to her if she goes this route first. A last chance out for anyone taking a risk or carrying ANYTHING that doesn't belong to them.


brassmonkey 11-01-2013 11:07 AM

there are better methods :2 cents: these are the greedy asshole that want the purest drugs

Joshua G 11-01-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpappa17934 (Post 19856714)
New business idea for anyone looking..... You can purchase drones for personal use that will carry up to 10 kilos and travel several hundred miles completely undetected.... Could you imagine being in the transportation business now???? ha ha ha

exactly. why walk thru customs when there are technology solutions to the drug transport problem?

Captain Kawaii 11-01-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JockoHomo (Post 19856531)
Excellent movie on this very topic. Must see movie!

Teenage girl from Colombia. Shows how they have several of them on the planes and how it's a numbers game...Had my heart pounding each time she went threw customs.

Maria Full Of Grace

Great movie. I'd fuck that chick til she drops the condoms.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 11:19 AM

i will add this post for law enforcement.

joshgirls does not transport drugs, nor condone transporting drugs, across national borders. i exist on this earth only to entice well endowed women to bounce their boobs as hard as they can. i have no desire to interfere with this dream with ideations of smuggling drugs. i simply find it inexplicable that after 30 years of drug wars, people still bet their lives on a customs search when there are thousands of miles of open border.

Captain Kawaii 11-01-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856741)
exactly. why walk thru customs when there are technology solutions to the drug transport problem?

cartels pay well
laziness
cartels probably tell them they get free ticket to citizenship. considering current state of US - people probably believe that is true.

mikesouth 11-01-2013 11:22 AM

DWB is dead on the money but theres a lot more to it as well some of the ones who get caught are absolutely meant to get caught it creates a needed diversion.

And walking it across the border isnt nearly as simple as you think drones with IR cameras are constantly watching for you.....tunnels are the way to go and theres lots of those too....

CDSmith 11-01-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856470)
i just don't get it. there are thousands of miles of unfenced border. you could buy a 50 dollar raft at the mall & float over the border in some spots.

Is there perhaps an extra charge (or set of charges) that comes when one is caught trying to enter the country by circumventing customs the way you're describing in addition to drug charges? (I don't know, I'm asking)

Seems like getting caught the way you're describing would come with a lot of extra incarceration grief not to mention having to navigate untold miles of unsafe travel in fugitive mode on foot over any and all manner of unkown terrain possibly with very little provisions, as opposed to just taking one's chances the far easier and more convenient way via the through-customs route.

Sly 11-01-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19856810)
Is there perhaps an extra charge (or set of charges) that comes when one is caught trying to enter the country by circumventing customs the way you're describing in addition to drug charges? (I don't know, I'm asking)

Seems like getting caught the way you're describing would come with a lot of extra incarceration grief not to mention having to navigate untold miles of unsafe travel in fugitive mode on foot over any and all manner of unkown terrain possibly with very little provisions, as opposed to just taking one's chances the far easier and more convenient way via the through-customs route.

They get deported. I suppose one could get deported on a bus, and one could get deported in a shipping container. You might be onto it.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19856810)
Is there perhaps an extra charge (or set of charges) that comes when one is caught trying to enter the country by circumventing customs the way you're describing in addition to drug charges? (I don't know, I'm asking)

Seems like getting caught the way you're describing would come with a lot of extra incarceration grief not to mention having to navigate untold miles of unsafe travel in fugitive mode on foot over any and all manner of unkown terrain possibly with very little provisions, as opposed to just taking one's chances the far easier and more convenient way via the through-customs route.

i believe there is no incarceration bonus from being pinched hiking vs the airport. if you got a lot of drogas, you are going to do time.

seems simply that driving thru a customs agent is faster & more convenient than making the arrangements to walk or raft across the border.

CDSmith 11-01-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19856815)
They get deported. I suppose one could get deported on a bus, and one could get deported in a shipping container. You might be onto it.

But that's assuming that all of these mules are illegal foreigners. As I understand it a lot of them are US citizens returning from other countries who try and make an extra buck by muling. It was they that I had most in mind in asking this.

If I tried coming back into Canada from the States by sneaking over the border at night I'm quite certain there'd be some sort of extra charge for doing so (in addition to any other 'muling' charges etc). So I was wondering the same about it in this case.

Dead 11-01-2013 12:25 PM

Overseas containers pull more in then any of the thousand mules combined. Like someone mentioned earlier, most of the small carriers are distraction to take away suspicion to what may have already been checked in......my guess.
Either way, they will never stop it. The whole crusade that started to fight the war on drugs, is just some over budget, over privileged, assembly of idiots.

Joshua G 11-01-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 19856867)
Either way, they will never stop it. The whole crusade that started to fight the war on drugs, is just some over budget, over privileged, assembly of idiots.

i disagree. the drug war is a way-of-living for thousands of law enforcement officials. to legalize drugs is to take food out of the mouths of young babies of the cops that participate in the drug wars. trust me the quest against legalization has little to do with social merits vs the jobs it creates fighting it.

:2 cents:

Robbie 11-01-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856878)
i disagree. the drug war is a way-of-living for thousands of law enforcement officials. to legalize drugs is to take food out of the mouths of young babies of the cops that participate in the drug wars. trust me the quest against legalization has little to do with social merits vs the jobs it creates fighting it.

:2 cents:

Our country shouldn't be depending on jobs based on Richard Nixon's "War On Drugs"

It also provides jobs for thousands of prison guards in the multi-billion dollar prison industry.

To me it's disgusting. We are putting people in prison for getting high. People have found a way to get high since cavemen first chewed on peyote.

The govt.'s of the world are so busy trying to stop people from getting high that they are causing death and misery worldwide.

Oh well...like you pointed out: at least lots of U.S. DEA and border patrol officers can make a living.
Meanwhile the U.S. has more of it's own citizens imprisoned than any country on Earth in history.
And Mexico (which I love to visit...beautiful beaches), has become a killing ground for drug cartels that wouldn't even exist if not for the "War On Drugs".

Just my opinion. So don't anybody go ballistic.

We are causing all this trouble world-wide. Meanwhile millions of Americans are hooked on legal prescription drugs (which kill more people every year than ALL "illegal" drugs combined).

Dead 11-01-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19856878)
i disagree. the drug war is a way-of-living for thousands of law enforcement officials. to legalize drugs is to take food out of the mouths of young babies of the cops that participate in the drug wars. trust me the quest against legalization has little to do with social merits vs the jobs it creates fighting it.

:2 cents:

Please tell me me you are only playing devils advocate? And if this your justification, Wow just Wow .........


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