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czarina 10-26-2023 05:46 AM

:warning Best Sources of Traffic in 2023?
 
Hey guys! New project in the works, and I need some info, please.

What is, currently, the best way to get lots of traffic for a site?
1. Affiliates? (isn't the affiliate model basically dead nowadays?)
2. Banner placement in paid spots in other websites?
3. Tons of tube video sumissions?
4. Other? (please specify)

TheLegacy 10-26-2023 05:52 AM

That's a pretty broad statement with little information to go on. Can you give me a site then perhaps make some suggestions? NOTE the best traffic is the one you create on your own rather than pay for it but think you're beyond that point.

czarina 10-26-2023 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23192001)
That's a pretty broad statement with little information to go on. Can you give me a site then perhaps make some suggestions? NOTE the best traffic is the one you create on your own rather than pay for it but think you're beyond that point.

It's a propietary webcam site. Very sexy models :) And we are looking to inject a lot of traffic into it at launch time.

Klen 10-26-2023 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23192004)
It's a propietary webcam site. Very sexy models :) And we are looking to inject a lot of traffic into it at launch time.

Media buying for cam niche is super hard because big players have unlimited cash so it's hard to compete with them. So legacy advice to do seo would be best route.

CaptainHowdy 10-26-2023 06:35 AM

See sig . . .

czarina 10-26-2023 06:59 AM

I know it's going to be hard, but I will work on generating traffic even if I leave my skin on my keyboard. So please let me know your opinion about the best traffic sources nowadays.

WiredGuy 10-26-2023 07:04 AM

Search traffic :)
WG

fuzebox 10-26-2023 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23192001)
NOTE the best traffic is the one you create on your own rather than pay for it but think you're beyond that point.

I disagree 100% and believe it is the opposite.

Without being able to forecast or reliably scale your traffic, you have a hobby reliant on luck rather than a business. Especially with the state of SEO and organic traffic generation in 2023.

Dugmor 10-26-2023 07:52 AM

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fris 10-26-2023 08:02 AM

i can list you on a video site, you provide the thumb and its added into the daily updates, amateur usally does the best.

can deliver roughly 25,000 - 30,000 unique clicks over the first 24 hours if the thumbnail is good.

of course you can buy more than 1, and have a steady supply of clicks over x days, weeks, etc

Klen 10-26-2023 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23192030)
I disagree 100% and believe it is the opposite.

Without being able to forecast or reliably scale your traffic, you have a hobby reliant on luck rather than a business. Especially with the state of SEO and organic traffic generation in 2023.

That is debatable but it is also depending whatever make you conformable - i more preffer media buying because i don't have will to fuck around with google constant changes. But media buying as traffic source can be lost too - competition could have bigger ROI and you cant follow it, and suddenly from doing hundreds/thousand a day you are on zero unless you manage to find alternative source.

The Porn Nerd 10-26-2023 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23191999)
Hey guys! New project in the works, and I need some info, please.

What is, currently, the best way to get lots of traffic for a site?
1. Affiliates? (isn't the affiliate model basically dead nowadays?)
2. Banner placement in paid spots in other websites?
3. Tons of tube video sumissions?
4. Other? (please specify)

First I would do ALL the things you listed. Because you are trying to launch a successful cam project be aware that the space is oversaturated and dominated by big players like Chaturbate, Flirt4Free, Live Jasmin, etc. Plus the major tubes (who have most of the adult traffic) also have their own custom cam labels.

So it would really depend on your initial investment, your overall goals, what you consider 'successful' and the cost of running the whole show to determine if it is 'worth it' or not. Best of luck!! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23192030)
I disagree 100% and believe it is the opposite.

Without being able to forecast or reliably scale your traffic, you have a hobby reliant on luck rather than a business. Especially with the state of SEO and organic traffic generation in 2023.

Well it really depends on the product and type of business you are pushing. For cams it IS possible to scale via media buys but the cost would be expensive considering you are going up against companies with bigger budgets and longer track records. Still, with enough money, much can be done.

Also: one person's 'hobby' is another person's full-time business. :)

blackmonsters 10-26-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23192009)
See sig . . .

OK; but you don't have one.

:helpme

Tjeezers 10-26-2023 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23192079)

For cams it IS possible to scale via media buys but the cost would be expensive considering you are going up against companies with bigger budgets and longer track records. Still, with enough money, much can be done.

in the end, what are you willing to pay for a costumer.

NatalieK 10-26-2023 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23192032)
https://cdn.xbiz.net/discussion/inli....93710331.jpeg


With a simple rack like this you will be able to build:
120 TikTok Accounts
Using an App Cloner
100s of Twitter Accounts
100s of Tinder Accounts
100s of Badoo Accounts
100s of Bumble Accounts
100s of Instagram Accounts
100s of Facebook Accounts
100's of Reddit Accounts

And generate 100s of thousands of subscriptions!

But of course you will need my phone numbers to SMS Verify all the accounts..... See Sig below

seen you advertised...

wanting some of that traffic :thumbsup

Dugmor 10-26-2023 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23192171)
seen you advertised...

wanting some of that traffic :thumbsup


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fuzebox 10-26-2023 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23192079)
Well it really depends on the product and type of business you are pushing. For cams it IS possible to scale via media buys but the cost would be expensive considering you are going up against companies with bigger budgets and longer track records. Still, with enough money, much can be done.

Also: one person's 'hobby' is another person's full-time business. :)

Specifically talking about starting from 0 in 2023, and disagreeing with TheLegacy saying that it's best not to buy anything. You pay with time, money, (or luck lol). Free traffic isn't truly free.

If someone with no sites and no existing organic traffic starts a new ccbill revshare paysite today, how long would it take to pay rent in Manhattan with no traffic budget?

Mr Pheer 10-26-2023 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23192032)
https://cdn.xbiz.net/discussion/inli....93710331.jpeg


With a simple rack like this you will be able to build:
120 TikTok Accounts
Using an App Cloner
100s of Twitter Accounts
100s of Tinder Accounts
100s of Badoo Accounts
100s of Bumble Accounts
100s of Instagram Accounts
100s of Facebook Accounts
100's of Reddit Accounts

And generate 100s of thousands of subscriptions!

But of course you will need my phone numbers to SMS Verify all the accounts..... See Sig below

I thought I was the only one with racks of phones...

I'm interested in your app cloner... can you please send details to mrpheer @gmail.com

Huggles 10-26-2023 05:27 PM

It pays more to pretend to be 100+ different people than to just be yourself.

Huggles 10-26-2023 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23192233)
It pays more to pretend to be 100+ different people than to just be yourself.

Imma plug this shit into the AI and see what it comes up with!

JesseQuinn 10-26-2023 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23192004)
It's a propietary webcam site. Very sexy models :) And we are looking to inject a lot of traffic into it at launch time.

as a cammer who did build a successful cam site (I sold it when it got too big for me to handle) I might have some useful advice. or not, not sure what your project entails

drop me a PM if you'd like to talk

either way, good luck! build something awesome :thumbsup

plsureking 10-26-2023 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23192223)
Specifically talking about starting from 0 in 2023, and disagreeing with TheLegacy saying that it's best not to buy anything. You pay with time, money, (or luck lol). Free traffic isn't truly free.

If someone with no sites and no existing organic traffic starts a new ccbill revshare paysite today, how long would it take to pay rent in Manhattan with no traffic budget?

i think the main problem in 2023 is very few adult startups have a realistic budget. look at all the people coming in here trying to start a business with $100.

dude needs a traffic partner or a massive budget. you can easily get a million *real* users in the door on opening day if you want to pay for it.

#

BAKO 10-26-2023 10:11 PM

Get yourself a tracker and buy traffic using sub sources. Pretty simple

fuzebox 10-26-2023 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23192232)
I thought I was the only one with racks of phones...

:upsidedow

$5 submissions 10-26-2023 10:59 PM

It depends on where you're sending the traffic

The best traffic source for dating landing pages is still dating app bot traffic

Tinder / Bumble / you name it + AI (machine learning) = $$$

One possible approach: tons of phone racks lol

Dugmor 10-27-2023 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23192232)
I thought I was the only one with racks of phones...

I'm interested in your app cloner... can you please send details to mrpheer @gmail.com


Post some photos of your phone rack. Hardware makes me hard ! ! !

Dugmor 10-27-2023 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23192232)
I thought I was the only one with racks of phones...

I'm interested in your app cloner... can you please send details to mrpheer @gmail.com

Email sent about the App Cloner :thumbsup

Dugmor 10-27-2023 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 23192287)
It depends on where you're sending the traffic

The best traffic source for dating landing pages is still dating app bot traffic

Tinder / Bumble / you name it + AI (machine learning) = $$$

One possible approach: tons of phone racks lol

Agreed.

If you are not using mobile devices then you are just spinning your wheels.

All the best traffic is mobile first. :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 10-27-2023 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23192223)
Specifically talking about starting from 0 in 2023, and disagreeing with TheLegacy saying that it's best not to buy anything. You pay with time, money, (or luck lol). Free traffic isn't truly free.

If someone with no sites and no existing organic traffic starts a new ccbill revshare paysite today, how long would it take to pay rent in Manhattan with no traffic budget?

Well if you are including time (and luck) in the cost equation then I would say this:

Buying traffic to re-direct to a paysite landing page is useless and a big time waste of money so I would not recommend. But buying banner spots on big traffic sites (mostly tubes) CAN have a positive effect but you have to keep a close eye on the ROI.

So to directly answer your question - how long would it take starting from zero - I would say anywhere from 6-12 months to see a steady return. BUT this depends on the content (of course), the niche, the promo materials and how hard you work uploading to all the free traffic sources, including social media. The real issue with paysites is once you hit a certain level of Joins you plateau and it's difficult to scale from there.

(BTW rents in New York City now are insane; a 1 BR apartment average cost is $4600)

fuzebox 10-27-2023 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23192420)
Buying traffic to re-direct to a paysite landing page is useless

At least we agree on something :)

OneHungLo 10-27-2023 01:52 PM

I’m doing 6 figs a month off tube traffic (mix of purchased and free) with a paysite in 2023 so anything is possible with the right plan.

czarina 10-30-2023 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23192032)
https://cdn.xbiz.net/discussion/inli....93710331.jpeg


With a simple rack like this you will be able to build:
120 TikTok Accounts
Using an App Cloner
100s of Twitter Accounts
100s of Tinder Accounts
100s of Badoo Accounts
100s of Bumble Accounts
100s of Instagram Accounts
100s of Facebook Accounts
100's of Reddit Accounts

And generate 100s of thousands of subscriptions!

But of course you will need my phone numbers to SMS Verify all the accounts..... See Sig below

I'm interested. Can you email me? info @ wedesig.net

thanks!

czarina 10-30-2023 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 23192038)
i can list you on a video site, you provide the thumb and its added into the daily updates, amateur usally does the best.

can deliver roughly 25,000 - 30,000 unique clicks over the first 24 hours if the thumbnail is good.

of course you can buy more than 1, and have a steady supply of clicks over x days, weeks, etc

I'm very interested! We do have lots of amateur content. Can you email me, please? info @ wedesig.net

Fenris Wolf 10-30-2023 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23193265)

100's of Reddit Accounts

I'm interested. Can you email me? info @ wedesig.net

thanks!

Please don't spam Reddit with bot accounts, you're just going to risk having your domain site-wide shadowbanned for short term gains. If you're willing to put in the effort I will be more than willing to give you some guidance that will help you establish your brand and then some. My email is in my sig.

czarina 11-03-2023 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf (Post 23193522)
Please don't spam Reddit with bot accounts, you're just going to risk having your domain site-wide shadowbanned for short term gains. If you're willing to put in the effort I will be more than willing to give you some guidance that will help you establish your brand and then some. My email is in my sig.

good morning and thank you!
But you have no signature. Can you email me? info @ wedesig.net

thanks

DVTimes 11-03-2023 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23191999)
Hey guys! New project in the works, and I need some info, please.

What is, currently, the best way to get lots of traffic for a site?
1. Affiliates? (isn't the affiliate model basically dead nowadays?)
2. Banner placement in paid spots in other websites?
3. Tons of tube video sumissions?
4. Other? (please specify)


What type of site are you after promoting?

I know a pay site that is about two years old and makes a vast amount because it makes content people want and no other site makes.

They seem to have a budget per shoot that matches Hollywood and use the same gear.

If you have content people want then you are not going to worry too much about traffic as people will promote your site for free.

The mistake some make is produce trash but then believe it should sell, if only they got more hits.

Those who produce stuff that sells are unlikely to ever come onto gfy and ask how to get more sales.

The one thing people never do is admit what they make sucks, especially if they have been doing it for years.

DVTimes 11-03-2023 07:30 AM

For those with a pay site, it issimple.

1. Set up a twitter account.

2. Add yourself to other twitter accounts with the same content as you.

3. Post a clip of your content. 20 seconds or longer.

4. See the reaction.

If the result is the clip is reposted many times, then you know people like your content and it should get you followers and in turn sales.

If the result is no more than a few or zero reposts, then work out why.

The truth is most people who get low results carry on in the belief that if only somone promotes them, then they will get sales.

In truth it could take many changes before you find what works.

But most just go out and put out junk but are convinced they will make a fortune because they get a few sales.

DVTimes 11-03-2023 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23192004)
It's a propietary webcam site. Very sexy models :) And we are looking to inject a lot of traffic into it at launch time.


Your problem is not traffic.

For such a site it is how many models you have.

Most new webcam sites fail as they have too few models on live at that moment.

And if models work for tips, many will give up early on your site and move to a well established site that have thousands online.

The way around this is to be different.

It is a chicken or egg situation.

You could spend a fortune promoting the site, but if the site has only a few models online when people visit, then people will leave and may not return.

one simple solution is to have every model who uses your site to have them post to twitter when they go online. This will generate thousands of hits at no cost.

If it was me I would opt for a affiliate scheme, but also get ten pics from models for affiliates to promote them. ideally if you are smart with them wearing a t-shirt with your website address on. also have a few ten second vids for affiliates to use.

DVTimes 11-03-2023 07:56 AM

If it was me and I had a proprietary webcam site I would set things up to automatically post the first 20 seconds of the model going on webcam to both yours and the models twitter site.

It should result in lots of people re-tweeting the clips.

The Porn Nerd 11-03-2023 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 23192503)
I’m doing 6 figs a month off tube traffic (mix of purchased and free) with a paysite in 2023 so anything is possible with the right plan.

What's the paysite URL? :)


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