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W13 12-31-2006 04:03 PM

How much do TGP webmaster's make on average?
 
I am pondering the idea of creating my own TGP, but I am wondering how much it is possible to earn with these kind of sites. I am particulary looking for input from current TGP webmasters.

Thanks in advance for your input. :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 12-31-2006 04:05 PM

I think that about 50% of their McDonalds paycheck goes into expenses without any returns. I can be mistaken though.

W13 12-31-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 11627322)
I think that about 50% of their McDonalds paycheck goes into expenses without any returns. I can be mistaken though.


What if I had about $1000 for start-up money, could I create a bang-up TGP that makes at least $1000/month with expenses taken into account?

tony286 12-31-2006 04:11 PM

on avg of all of them probably 500 bucks, its like the avg actor makes about 5 grand a year.

Agent 488 12-31-2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627330)
What if I had about $1000 for start-up money, could I create a bang-up TGP that makes at least $1000/month with expenses taken into account?

HAS TO BE VERY BANG-UP, THOUGH. :2 cents:

W13 12-31-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 11627334)
on avg of all of them probably 500 bucks, its like the avg actor makes about 5 grand a year.

So if I theoretically started like 2 or 3 TGP sites then I could AT LEAST meet my quota for $1000/month with expenses paid...

W13 12-31-2006 04:16 PM

How about blog owners, how much do they earn per month, on average?

Jace 12-31-2006 04:17 PM

that is like asking, "hey mom, how much can I make being a painter"?

so many factors

Agent 488 12-31-2006 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627353)
How about blog owners, how much do they earn per month, on average?

LITERALLY PENNIES PER BLOG - YOU NEED A LOT! :2 cents:

spacedog 12-31-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627330)
What if I had about $1000 for start-up money, could I create a bang-up TGP that makes at least $1000/month with expenses taken into account?

It's wild card. Depends on your approach & there's a shitload of various variables to consider, such as niche, sponsor selection for promotion, sources of traffic & acquisition of that traffic, etc, etc..

Everyone is going to give you various answers to this..
What works for one person may not work for the next guy, & so on.,,,

You could blow alot more than 1k & net no return, or you may break even.
On the other side of the coin, you could start with less & make a return, however, your return is not so much based on your starting captial, but based on productivity of your traffic & your sales are controlled by the source & type of traffic...

On average, you will likely see that most people worked very hard & diligently for roughly 2 to 3 months before seeing any income coming in.

It does not happen over night, & considering your 1k budget, you'll invest in hosting, quite a few various scripts,maybe some design, & what little is left will be spent to buy shit quality throw away traffic from other tgps..

Yes.. You can make cash, not overnight, but you'll get the tools & skills over time & eventually, you'll grow..but this isn't the place that'll help you accomplish it or even get started.

JD 12-31-2006 04:18 PM

rofl.... dude if you don't know what you're doing you could have a startup budget of a million and fail horribly...

W13 12-31-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 11627357)
LITERALLY PENNIES PER BLOG - YOU NEED A LOT! :2 cents:


Serious? I was thinking that each blog would make at least $200 or something along those lines per month.

I guess that is why people start many blogs at a time, then.

After Shock Media 12-31-2006 04:19 PM

The word average is a bitch.
Since there are such a huge number of them, many of which either just cover costs or profit just a few cents at most. Thrown in with those that make actual money, average wise you would be looking at a very very sad number.

W13 12-31-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11627362)
rofl.... dude if you don't know what you're doing would could have a startup budget of a million and fail horribly...

Well, I do have previous experience from creating web sites and earning through programs like Google Adsense, but very limited knowledge other than that. I am not going to be starting just like THAT, I am going to take my time and read as much as I can and gain as much knowledge and expertise as I can from people who have already been through the process.

After Shock Media 12-31-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627365)
Serious? I was thinking that each blog would make at least $200 or something along those lines per month.

I guess that is why people start many blogs at a time, then.

You serious?

If that was honestly the case, dont you think most people around here wouldnt be running ten to one hundred blogs a piece.

VoteForPedro 12-31-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627365)
Serious? I was thinking that each blog would make at least $200 or something along those lines per month.

I guess that is why people start many blogs at a time, then.

It is very easy to make $200/ month per blog.

Maybe not 'very' easy. But not hard. Easier (and cheaper) to make $200/month from a blog rather than a TGP.

W13 12-31-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 11627359)
It's wild card. Depends on your approach & there's a shitload of various variables to consider, such as niche, sponsor selection for promotion, sources of traffic & acquisition of that traffic, etc, etc..

Everyone is going to give you various answers to this..
What works for one person may not work for the next guy, & so on.,,,

You could blow alot more than 1k & net no return, or you may break even.
On the other side of the coin, you could start with less & make a return, however, your return is not so much based on your starting captial, but based on productivity of your traffic & your sales are controlled by the source & type of traffic...

On average, you will likely see that most people worked very hard & diligently for roughly 2 to 3 months before seeing any income coming in.

It does not happen over night, & considering your 1k budget, you'll invest in hosting, quite a few various scripts,maybe some design, & what little is left will be spent to buy shit quality throw away traffic from other tgps..

Yes.. You can make cash, not overnight, but you'll get the tools & skills over time & eventually, you'll grow..but this isn't the place that'll help you accomplish it or even get started.

Yeah, I know that a TGP is not a get rich quick scheme, and I am prepared to be in it for the long haul, maybe as long as 3-9 months to get it going to decently and earning me a nice residual income ($1,000+).

W13 12-31-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627384)
You serious?

If that was honestly the case, dont you think most people around here wouldnt be running ten to one hundred blogs a piece.


True, but read the post below this post of ours.

spacedog 12-31-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 11627393)
It is very easy to make $200/ month per blog.

True.. this would only be about 8 or 9 sales per month, however, we're not talking about a webmaster who has networking in the biz to acquire traffic, etc.. we're refering to someone coming in from the outside just starting out, so, certainly 200 month is very doable as well as realistic for a new webmaster, it will take well over a month or two to reach that point unless you are able to just buy several k per day high quality traffic

Jace 12-31-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627400)
Yeah, I know that a TGP is not a get rich quick scheme, and I am prepared to be in it for the long haul, maybe as long as 3-9 months to get it going to decently and earning me a nice residual income ($1,000+).

I have a buddy that has been doing for residual income for 3 years, he is just now making $1200 a month from a 130k tgp

tgp is NOT a get rich AT ALL scheme anymore, in fact I personally think it is one of the worst decisions a newbie webmaster can make

W13 12-31-2006 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 11627393)
It is very easy to make $200/ month per blog.

Maybe not 'very' easy. But not hard. Easier (and cheaper) to make $200/month from a blog rather than a TGP.

But is that the average for blogs to make, a few hundred dollars per month? Or is it much less and $200/month is just what the really good ones make?

frank7799 12-31-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627367)
The word average is a bitch.
Since there are such a huge number of them, many of which either just cover costs or profit just a few cents at most. Thrown in with those that make actual money, average wise you would be looking at a very very sad number.

I second this. Take thehun and my new tgp. There maybe an avareage of $100000 per month. You won´t earn a cent if you only had my tgp...:1orglaugh

extreme 12-31-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11627407)
I have a buddy that has been doing for residual income for 3 years, he is just now making $1200 a month from a 130k tgp

tgp is NOT a get rich AT ALL scheme anymore, in fact I personally think it is one of the worst decisions a newbie webmaster can make

Seconded.
Newcomers have a very hard time attracting traffic today.

spacedog 12-31-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627400)
Yeah, I know that a TGP is not a get rich quick scheme, and I am prepared to be in it for the long haul, maybe as long as 3-9 months to get it going to decently and earning me a nice residual income ($1,000+).

It's possible, it happens, you can make more than this, you could make less.

It all depends on way too many variables

frank7799 12-31-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627409)
But is that the average for blogs to make, a few hundred dollars per month? Or is it much less and $200/month is just what the really good ones make?

Honestly, there is no avareage income published, neither for blogs nor for tgp´s.

W13 12-31-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 11627406)
True.. this would only be about 8 or 9 sales per month, however, we're not talking about a webmaster who has networking in the biz to acquire traffic, etc.. we're refering to someone coming in from the outside just starting out, so, certainly 200 month is very doable as well as realistic for a new webmaster, it will take well over a month or two to reach that point unless you are able to just buy several k per day high quality traffic

I am certainly down with the idea of the whole process of getting the blog earning a few hundred dollars a month 1 to 2 months, that is fine with me.

What about creating a network of blogs, even more earning potential.

W13 12-31-2006 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11627407)
I have a buddy that has been doing for residual income for 3 years, he is just now making $1200 a month from a 130k tgp

tgp is NOT a get rich AT ALL scheme anymore, in fact I personally think it is one of the worst decisions a newbie webmaster can make

What do you think the "best" decision would be for a newbie webmaster?

Is he making $1200 per month with all expenses included, or is that figure BEFORE expenses. If so, how much would the average TGP webmaster have to put out in terms of expenses every month?

W13 12-31-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4yadult (Post 11627415)
Honestly, there is no avareage income published, neither for blogs nor for tgp´s.

Yeah, I kind of realized that before posting here, since basically everything on the internet is variable income. But, it would still be nice to see what is possible, etc.

spacedog 12-31-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627417)
I am certainly down with the idea of the whole process of getting the blog earning a few hundred dollars a month 1 to 2 months, that is fine with me.

What about creating a network of blogs, even more earning potential.

Alot of variables, but yes..

From my own experiences, the income was not considerable until I increased volume of number of sites..,

There's also a saying in this biz, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket", but also there are those from the school of thought that believe it is better to focus on just one thing & do well at just one thing.. The variables are different from person to person.

You also have to consider niches too when deciding profitibility..

Let's use teen for example..
Let's assume hypothetically there's 9500 Teen tgps out there. They'll be selling the same exact stuff as you are, so your profit margin is now alot smaller than you hoped..

On the other hand, suppose you decide on what we call a micro niche.. this is a special interest to select people, & as such, not too many sites fill the needs of these surfers, so, webmasters pushing these micro niches fair much better than their general or popular counterparts

After Shock Media 12-31-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627409)
But is that the average for blogs to make, a few hundred dollars per month? Or is it much less and $200/month is just what the really good ones make?

Well lets see (word average again).
His blog makes 200.00 a month.
I have ten blogs making 5.00 each after all costs.
My friend has ten blogs that are making about 1.00 a month after all costs.

Total incomes: 260.00
Total number of blogs: 21
Blog income average: $12.38

W13 12-31-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627435)
Well lets see (word average again).
His blog makes 200.00 a month.
I have ten blogs making 5.00 each after all costs.
My friend has ten blogs that are making about 1.00 a month after all costs.

Total incomes: 260.00
Total number of blogs: 21
Blog income average: $12.38

Hmm...so I gues blogs would certainly not be the way to start out. :winkwink:

W13 12-31-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 11627430)
Alot of variables, but yes..

From my own experiences, the income was not considerable until I increased volume of number of sites..,

There's also a saying in this biz, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket", but also there are those from the school of thought that believe it is better to focus on just one thing & do well at just one thing.. The variables are different from person to person.

You also have to consider niches too when deciding profitibility..

Let's use teen for example..
Let's assume hypothetically there's 9500 Teen tgps out there. They'll be selling the same exact stuff as you are, so your profit margin is now alot smaller than you hoped..

On the other hand, suppose you decide on what we call a micro niche.. this is a special interest to select people, & as such, not too many sites fill the needs of these surfers, so, webmasters pushing these micro niches fair much better than their general or popular counterparts

Yes, it certainly sounds to me that to have a successful TGP, then you need to find a worthwhile niche. That wouldn't be too hard, and I am defintely up to the task.

Thanks for all that good information, by the way. :thumbsup

Manowar 12-31-2006 04:45 PM

All depends on the traffic

spacedog 12-31-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627442)
Hmm...so I gues blogs would certainly not be the way to start out. :winkwink:

He's pointing out to you that there is no AVERAGE.

It varies from person to person, from company to company, etc.. there's so many variables & no standard, & no reports of income

frank7799 12-31-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627427)
Yeah, I kind of realized that before posting here, since basically everything on the internet is variable income. But, it would still be nice to see what is possible, etc.

It wasn´t meant as an offence. Look at a tgp. You can buy a design, get fhg´s but the key is quality traffic. Most traffic to buy isn´t traffic generating sales, maybe it´s useful as feeder traffic.

The bigger tgp´s generate their income from advertising, spots as well as banner ads. They obviously do it for a reason.

After Shock Media 12-31-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W13 (Post 11627442)
Hmm...so I gues blogs would certainly not be the way to start out. :winkwink:

Actually just pick your poison. Forget about averages and what others are making. Work it until you have it down. Keep building new projects within same basic medium or niche. Do not worry yourself with perfection and do not keep going back to implement the new ideas in each project, just add them to the next one so you do not end up running in circles. Do not quit your day job or whatever it is that gives you a certain income. Spend all the time you can with your projects and keep moving along.

Just do not get caught up in averages.
Do not start something else until what you have is already completed.
Do not go domain crazy and buy more than you need as you need them unless you plan on being in domain sales.
When you do buy scripts, content, whatever; buy the best you can get. They will save you more money in long run.
Do not obsess over what others are earning.
Do not jump from fad to fad, stick to your plan. You do have a plan right?

TimBlaze 12-31-2006 04:55 PM

why not just do galleries?

Niki 12-31-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627463)
Actually just pick your poison. Forget about averages and what others are making. Work it until you have it down. Keep building new projects within same basic medium or niche. Do not worry yourself with perfection and do not keep going back to implement the new ideas in each project, just add them to the next one so you do not end up running in circles. Do not quit your day job or whatever it is that gives you a certain income. Spend all the time you can with your projects and keep moving along.

Just do not get caught up in averages.
Do not start something else until what you have is already completed.
Do not go domain crazy and buy more than you need as you need them unless you plan on being in domain sales.
When you do buy scripts, content, whatever; buy the best you can get. They will save you more money in long run.
Do not obsess over what others are earning.
Do not jump from fad to fad, stick to your plan. You do have a plan right?

amen


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W13 12-31-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627463)
Actually just pick your poison. Forget about averages and what others are making. Work it until you have it down. Keep building new projects within same basic medium or niche. Do not worry yourself with perfection and do not keep going back to implement the new ideas in each project, just add them to the next one so you do not end up running in circles. Do not quit your day job or whatever it is that gives you a certain income. Spend all the time you can with your projects and keep moving along.

Just do not get caught up in averages.
Do not start something else until what you have is already completed.
Do not go domain crazy and buy more than you need as you need them unless you plan on being in domain sales.
When you do buy scripts, content, whatever; buy the best you can get. They will save you more money in long run.
Do not obsess over what others are earning.
Do not jump from fad to fad, stick to your plan. You do have a plan right?

Yes, I have a plan, though I am still adding to it and revising it. I have a few good niches I can choose from, I guess I will just go with one as a starter. I probably won't be even starting the site until sometime this Spring, so that gives me a lot of time to learn the tricks of the trade, and whatnot.

tony286 12-31-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11627367)
The word average is a bitch.
Since there are such a huge number of them, many of which either just cover costs or profit just a few cents at most. Thrown in with those that make actual money, average wise you would be looking at a very very sad number.

You are very right , its like Bill Gates walks in a bar the avg income of that bar has just gone up dramatically.


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