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Young 12-24-2007 08:45 AM

Did anyone see Ron Pauul completely get his ass handed to him on Meet the Press?
 
definitely worth the laugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=saDw0...eature=related

came off as a complete wacko, couldn't answer 50% of the questions.:1orglaugh

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

tony286 12-24-2007 08:56 AM

He isnt a good speaker so he comes off terrible and he is very vague about most of his plans.

MattO 12-24-2007 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13558396)
He isnt a good speaker so he comes off terrible and he is very vague about most of his plans.


Hmmm.. sounds like someone currently in office.

stev0 12-24-2007 09:06 AM

That was hardly "getting his ass handed to him". I'm no libertarian but he's got good points on the foreign policy.

12clicks 12-24-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 13558361)
definitely worth the laugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=saDw0...eature=related

came off as a complete wacko, couldn't answer 50% of the questions.:1orglaugh

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

of course no one noticed! he's the tinfoil hat crowd's messiah

MaDalton 12-24-2007 09:13 AM

i did not think that there could be someone out there that is even more stupid than bush - but it seems possible. that guy knows absolutely no facts about anything and the rest sounds like a 6 year old child

i think there should be an IQ test and a mental health test before someone can decide to become a president

tony286 12-24-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MattO (Post 13558409)
Hmmm.. sounds like someone currently in office.

This man wants to create radical change to be able to do that and have people follow you.You have to be a strong communicator.

MaDalton 12-24-2007 09:17 AM

Q: "how much money would it cost to cut income tax?"

A: "a lot"

Q: "how many troops do we have i Iraq?"

A: "more than we need"


talk about being badly prepared...

notoldschool 12-24-2007 09:21 AM

Funny shit. he is by far the most intelligent candidate and has proven it with ALL the work hes done to benefit this country. I love it when fat ass keyboard warriors who have NEVER done shit for their country try to tear down people who actually care about our countries future. He did fine seeing as he had no clue what would be asked, and he was ambushed with shit like comments from disgruntled employees. They took no commercial break, and so on. I cant wait to see dumb ass Gulliani on the show next. That dude has a lower IQ than Bush. And thanks for keeping my mans name in the spot light. Your guys lame attempt on this so called webmaster board will do nothing to stop his movement. If you want crooks to run the country thats fine but please remember this guys a docter and has actually served this country where the rest are a joke and could care less about your poor ass.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558467)

talk about being badly prepared...

ha ha thats the point. They didnt not clue him into the questions on purpose and there is a huge reason they didnt take 1 commercial break. Fucking Sheep.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaa

MaDalton 12-24-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558482)
ha ha thats the point. They didnt not clue him into the questions on purpose and there is a huge reason they didnt take 1 commercial break. Fucking Sheep.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaa

dude, i say that very rarely, but you are an idiot. :2 cents:

when someone wants to eliminate income tax he should have at least an idea how much that is and how to finance it. especially when it's something basic in his program.

and if someone wants to get all soldiers back home, he should at least know how many are out there.

for questions like this you don't need any extra preparation or commercial breaks - not if you think you are able to run a country (it's almost comical that your mind is already so polluted that you think commercial breaks is something you need in a political debate - awesome).

the only sheep in here is you

jimmy-3-way 12-24-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558450)
i did not think that there could be someone out there that is even more stupid than bush - but it seems possible. that guy knows absolutely no facts about anything and the rest sounds like a 6 year old child

i think there should be an IQ test and a mental health test before someone can decide to become a president

I'm doubtful a guy with a medical degree from Duke and 13 books to his credit is even more stupid than Bush. In fact, it's possible Ron Paul has written more books that Bush has read.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558503)
and if someone wants to get all soldiers back home, he should at least know how many are out there.


the only sheep in here is you

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yeah Im sure our president doesnt know that figure on a day to day basis. You are a fucking idiot. PERIOD.

jimmy-3-way 12-24-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558482)
ha ha thats the point. They didnt not clue him into the questions on purpose and there is a huge reason they didnt take 1 commercial break. Fucking Sheep.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaa

You're obviously a big Meet the Press fan.

There are usually only commercials during segment breaks, and on the meet the candidates episodes there are often none.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 09:39 AM

I like how he is against big federal spending but has no problem in earmarking billions for his district to prop up his own political career.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dready 12-24-2007 09:40 AM

That wasn't an ass handing. That was using flawed criticisms on purpose to give Ron a chance to shoot them down. It gives the illusion of being tough. For Ron, it's much more effective than throwing him softballs.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558482)
They didnt not clue him into the questions on purpose and there is a huge reason they didnt take 1 commercial break.

So you think people are going to clue him in on his presidency and give him a break every five minute if elected?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

notoldschool 12-24-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13558532)
I like how he is against big federal spending but has no problem in earmarking billions for his district to prop up his own political career.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dude do you know how this goverment works?

MaDalton 12-24-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558515)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yeah Im sure our president doesnt know that figure on a day to day basis. You are a fucking idiot. PERIOD.


yeah, i'm also sure that your current president doesn't know that either - nor does he care. that makes them both idiots - like you :winkwink:

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558542)
Dude do you know how this goverment works?

Yes, and ron paul the hypocrite has played the game well for the past 18 years:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

notoldschool 12-24-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13558559)
Yes, and ron paul the hypocrite has played the game well for the past 18 years:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ok. You think you made some kind of intelligent post about how you think things work.

question 1: who do you support?
question 2: how did they get out of using earmarks?
question 3: how did that candidate not take tax money to help its citizens instead of giving it to private interestst to do as they wish.

12clicks 12-24-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13558446)
of course no one noticed! he's the tinfoil hat crowd's messiah

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool
Funny shit. he is by far the most intelligent candidate and has proven it with ALL the work hes done to benefit this country. I love it when fat ass keyboard warriors who have NEVER done shit for their country try to tear down people who actually care about our countries future. He did fine seeing as he had no clue what would be asked, and he was ambushed with shit like comments from disgruntled employees. They took no commercial break, and so on. I cant wait to see dumb ass Gulliani on the show next. That dude has a lower IQ than Bush. And thanks for keeping my mans name in the spot light. Your guys lame attempt on this so called webmaster board will do nothing to stop his movement. If you want crooks to run the country thats fine but please remember this guys a docter and has actually served this country where the rest are a joke and could care less about your poor ass.

and so ends today's lesson :winkwink:

evildick 12-24-2007 09:59 AM

What the hell? He wants to get rid of income tax totally?

This guy is a nutjob.

jimmy-3-way 12-24-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13558574)
and so ends today's lesson :winkwink:

Who are you supporting?

Iron Fist 12-24-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558467)
Q: "how much money would it cost to cut income tax?"

A: "a lot"

Q: "how many troops do we have i Iraq?"

A: "more than we need"


talk about being badly prepared...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tblake 12-24-2007 10:27 AM

Man this was a total HATCHET job on meet the press. What a fucking hostile interview. I would have punched that fat ass interviewer in the face!

All the questions were loaded, and it appeared he was just fishing for sound bites. Like when he asked him- Ron Paul you say you support the constitution but they you want to amend it. Like amending the constitution is unconstitutional? And he asked him the same question again, looking for him to falter.

Then he spent most of the time finding old press clippings from TWENTY f*in years ago and asking Ron Paul to explain them. Wow.

Ron Paul did get flustered over the earmarking question, and its something he needs to hammer out. It appears to be hypocritical, but he has a valid point- if the money is there, take it.

And Madolton- he did answer that question with specific numbers. He said that the federal income tax on individuals accounts for around 1 trillion dollars a year. He also said that bringing our 500,000 (approximately) troops home could save up to a trillion dollars over time, but that it wouldn't happen quickly. but he did hammer the point that it would start to save 100's of billions within a year or two.

mikesouth 12-24-2007 10:31 AM

the only person who got his ass handed to him is young for starting this thread and the people who voted for the current asshat sitting in the oval office.

If you dont like Ron Paul thats fine and dandy, if you aren't bright enugh to understand what he is saying you should probably take some advice from Mark Twain

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt"

MaDalton 12-24-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tblake (Post 13558655)
to be hypocritical, but he has a valid point- if the money is there, take it.

And Madolton- he did answer that question with specific numbers. He said that the federal income tax on individuals accounts for around 1 trillion dollars a year. He also said that bringing our 500,000 (approximately) troops home could save up to a trillion dollars over time, but that it wouldn't happen quickly. but he did hammer the point that it would start to save 100's of billions within a year or two.

no, he didn't. watch again - both times the interviewer had to tell him the numbers. he had no idea.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558673)
no, he didn't. watch again - both times the interviewer had to tell him the numbers. he had no idea.

If you base your vote on the candidate not knowing every number or stat. Shoot yourself.

MattO 12-24-2007 10:55 AM

Ron Paul says he doesn't believe in Evolution. He's a fucking nutjob.

MaDalton 12-24-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558708)
If you base your vote on the candidate not knowing every number or stat. Shoot yourself.

dude, what are you? a twelve year old retard?

this guy wants to get rid of the IRS and the income tax.

but he has no idea how much money will be missing and how to finance that.

or to break it down for you: that's like daddy gives no more money anymore to your mummy but still wants her to buy your veggies

Socks 12-24-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558673)
no, he didn't. watch again - both times the interviewer had to tell him the numbers. he had no idea.

Asking him to remember a bunch of numbers is like asking your accountant to memorize your ledgers. You're supposed to be able to look at the numbers and make an informed, educated decision, not walk around all day memorizing them.

Did the interviewer know the numbers - before he researched, and wrote them down? :D C'mon.

BV 12-24-2007 11:05 AM

I don't give a shit what anybody says, I'm voting for Ron Paul. It's time we get back to basics. We just can't keep going down the same path we have been.

Anything is better than what we have now and I think it will be very interesting watching Ron Paul in office as President of the United States!

What have you got to loose?

Cant get much worse than it is now. :2 cents:

BV

Socks 12-24-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558725)
dude, what are you? a twelve year old retard?

this guy wants to get rid of the IRS and the income tax.

but he has no idea how much money will be missing and how to finance that.

or to break it down for you: that's like daddy gives no more money anymore to your mummy but still wants her to buy your veggies

Enjoy your income tax then! Because the most brilliant minds in the USA are running your government. They were chosen from the top schools for being the best at solving problems, listening to their people and leading the nation. There are clearly no people better for the job.

They know EXACTLY how much they're raping you for!

Get a clue man. The people at the top make blanket rules/ideas, then those ideas get filtered through STATISTICIANS who work out MODELS, and then those MODELS get documented and PRESENTED to the LEADERS to make a decision.

You're expecting Ron to do... All of that himself? Or are you suggesting he would do away with all those filters? He would just fire everyone, grab a hammer and RULE?

You're only making yourself look like an idiot for applying one-sided logic in effort to prove your point. Try being a little bit more moderate, and try to find a real answer rather than just playing chicken little.

AcidMax 12-24-2007 11:07 AM

What bothered me is his statement to remove the IRS and cut all that income to the government, but yet he thinks the FBI, CIA etc should still be around, he just doesn't want them to torture people. OK, how does he truly expect to keep the government running? When you go in and start saying that you want to cut the troops, the irs, etc.., you should probably have a generic idea as to how much money it costs to run the government agencies he wants to cut, how many troops are spread throughout the us. I don't think he has to know every stat for every political question, but if this is your platform you are running on it would make sense to be able to have a guesstimate like Tim Russert had on the number of troops.

IMHO that interview did very little to help his cause. I am not sure who I am voting for at this point, Ron Paul has some descent ideas., but some are just left field.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 13558725)
dude, what are you? a twelve year old retard?

this guy wants to get rid of the IRS and the income tax.

but he has no idea how much money will be missing and how to finance that.

or to break it down for you: that's like daddy gives no more money anymore to your mummy but still wants her to buy your veggies

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MEDIA DRONE.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidMax (Post 13558764)
I am not sure who I am voting for at this point, Ron Paul has some descent ideas., but some are just left field.

You dont think

invading countries for no reason is not from left feild?
using our soldiers as oil placeholders for monetary gain.
the middle class dissapearing while the low class grows at alarming rates.
spying on our own people.
paying more than a third of your income for health insurance that is worthless.
paying more than a third of your income in taxes just for being born.

Dude i could go on all day..

How about telling us which of the other candidates will do better and why instead of the same ol ron paul bashing.

MaDalton 12-24-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13558759)
Enjoy your income tax then! Because the most brilliant minds in the USA are running your government. They were chosen from the top schools for being the best at solving problems, listening to their people and leading the nation. There are clearly no people better for the job.

They know EXACTLY how much they're raping you for!

Get a clue man. The people at the top make blanket rules/ideas, then those ideas get filtered through STATISTICIANS who work out MODELS, and then those MODELS get documented and PRESENTED to the LEADERS to make a decision.

You're expecting Ron to do... All of that himself? Or are you suggesting he would do away with all those filters? He would just fire everyone, grab a hammer and RULE?

You're only making yourself look like an idiot for applying one-sided logic in effort to prove your point. Try being a little bit more moderate, and try to find a real answer rather than just playing chicken little.



oh man, i'm really at a loss of words here. is that how politics are done in your country? pathetic

if i was ron paul and had the idea of eliminating the income tax i would sit down and look up how much that is per year. then i would know how much money i need to get from other sources or how much i had to cut expenses. then i would think about which expenses could be cut by how much without causing too much harm etc...
all this i would do before i even announce for the first time that i would like to become president and give interviews. and you can bet that if that is a basic point in my program you could more or less ask me ANY question about it anytime of the day. cause that's what every responsible politician should do before he tries to get people voting for his ideas.

at least that's how it works in my country

AcidMax 12-24-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13558783)
You dont think

invading countries for no reason is not from left feild?
using our soldiers as oil placeholders for monetary gain.
the middle class dissapearing while the low class grows at alarming rates.
spying on our own people.
paying more than a third of your income for health insurance that is worthless.
paying more than a third of your income in taxes just for being born.

Dude i could go on all day..

How about telling us which of the other candidates will do better and why instead of the same ol ron paul bashing.

First off lose your holier than thou attitude. No one was Ron Paul bashing. I do like the guy, but he has good and bad points. My statement was that if you are campaigning on a specific platform (no taxes, no irs, bring home the troops, government reform) there are some things you should have quick answers to and stats for your answers.

Being that I am a vet I care greatly for the troops who are fighting. Do I think we are widespread over the world, you bet, always have. Do I think we can just withdrawl everyone in a few years and all will be ok. Nope.

There is no doubt that there needs to be reform and that Bush is not the best president to ever grace the White House.

It seems that if someone uses logical thought processes instead of emotion you get upset. Sit down, relax and read what people say and discuss their opinions, don't sit there and bash everyone who believes in something different than you do.

notoldschool 12-24-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AcidMax (Post 13558805)
First off lose your holier than thou attitude. No one was Ron Paul bashing. I do like the guy, but he has good and bad points. My statement was that if you are campaigning on a specific platform (no taxes, no irs, bring home the troops, government reform) there are some things you should have quick answers to and stats for your answers.

Being that I am a vet I care greatly for the troops who are fighting. Do I think we are widespread over the world, you bet, always have. Do I think we can just withdrawl everyone in a few years and all will be ok. Nope.

There is no doubt that there needs to be reform and that Bush is not the best president to ever grace the White House.

It seems that if someone uses logical thought processes instead of emotion you get upset. Sit down, relax and read what people say and discuss their opinions, don't sit there and bash everyone who believes in something different than you do.

You still havent awnsered my question. Who do you think will do a better job and why?
You come in bash one small issue like he didnt have a numerical awnser so hes not worthy. LOl.

Lets here who the better choice is in your opinion and lets see if they know all the stats that are thrown at them. :1orglaugh


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