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450studio featured design entitled "unpaid"
A web designer and a programmer who used to be working for 450studio for one and a half month, did not get their payments. They finished a lot of projects including, 1 paysite(hdfeeds.net) along with 10 headers, front-end and back-end of the site, 10 wordpress themes, VBulletin themes, 16 galleries, a tour page(CBL springbreak), 5 banners and a poster design. This guys works like a horse even sometimes on weekends and holidays just to finish the job. After a month of work these guys are expecting their payment but they did not pay them. 450studio promised that they are going to get paid after a week because of money transfer problem. After that they still don't have their payments and decided to stop working because of the empty promises 450studio gave them regarding the payments. Now 2 months later and still they are not yet paid for their work at the same time the work that they have done are live sites and also included on their site portfolio.
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Wow, that truly sucks. I believe it is more important to focus on making your employees happy before worrying about clients/customers. Happy employees make happy customers.
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I have the same expirience and i know of 2 other people who have gone through the same! Asked for a refund because the design was not even close to what i ordered and they coudnt refund me. Just wait for the weekend, i know theres some hugh drama coming along.. save your popcorn, it will be fun :winkwink:
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I guess thats what you get for putting trust in someone paid them like 1,5k for designs in 3 days or so, all upfront and that shit came along.. not to talk about the turnarround time. The first design came in like ordered and even pretty fast but then the bullshit started..
- iam preparing the birthday for my daughter... stuff like that. Hows your new notebook doing by the way, carlos? The new illustrator working well? How was your england trip? |
their design skills maybe rock but their customer support/care is the worst of the worst.. lets see how the vixeo stuff works out for them..
great way to ruin your business carlos.. thought you were a good guy but your just another basement designer without ethics. Not that i have any ethics at all but i thought you had some at least.. |
Just to clear things up i requested a refund because of this: http://450studio.com/client/machete/toon.jpg its a joke if you ask me.. 3 weeks turnarround time..
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ahh i just came on my keyboard, i love the gfy dramas!
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Watch the dates.. some logs from icq..
450studio.com-w2x (21.04.2008 11:20): he he he. i am working on it. will have a preview for you later today ok Machete_Rodriguez (21.04.2008 21:51): yo how its going? any progress on my themes so far? 450studio.com-w2x (21.04.2008 21:56): i am working on it. trying out my new drawing pen. the logo for the site is done just the rest is still in the works. using some other programs to make a flashy holywood kinda style 450studio.com-w2x (23.04.2008 12:02): He. i am trying to have your toon finished today. you can choose then what you like. i will have three samples for you 450studio.com-w2x (23.04.2008 13:09): ok. got to step out for a bit when i am back i will line out and color the first and show you ok Machete_Rodriguez (24.04.2008 14:27): yo whats the status man 450studio.com-w2x (24.04.2008 14:29): give a bit longer on your head and i will have preview for you. you can choose one and i will outline it 450studio.com-w2x (25.04.2008 14:01): yeah still alive. working and getting my girls birthday stuff ready. going have a small party here tonight Machete_Rodriguez (25.04.2008 14:01): oh great, what about my design? 450studio.com-w2x (25.04.2008 14:03): i am making up some ideas for your desk and beach. but you can't really rush drawing its a bit harder then just designing. Machete_Rodriguez (28.04.2008 22:20): yo carlos whats up? your still alive man? Machete_Rodriguez (30.04.2008 14:25): yo carlos please message me asap! If you cant do the job in the matter of time then just tell me, refund my money and its all fine. Just dont play that run/hide game with me man.. that no customer support at all, thats just bullshit. I really dont want and cant wait any longer for me to get back. So message me asap, tell me whats the status on my order and if you cant get it done, its really no problem. Just refund me and we are all fine 450studio.com-w2x (30.04.2008 14:27): i can do the job. it is just that i have a ton of people that all are waiting for the design and i doing them in the follow order that i got them. the drawing for your site is done on paper. just the outlining it taking loner. and then i need to finish that fast and this. i am just under staff. Machete_Rodriguez (30.04.2008 14:28): yeah but then tell me that before i do an order.. i thought its been 2-3 days and not over a week man Machete_Rodriguez (30.04.2008 14:29): so can you get my stuff done today or cant you? 450studio.com-w2x (30.04.2008 14:29): no not today. tomorrow i can promis it is done 450studio.com-w2x (30.04.2008 14:30): sorry man. really. i am just so swamped now that i have two disigners Machete_Rodriguez (30.04.2008 14:31): yeah thats all no problem if you would tell me this from the beginning and not disapear without any word for a couple of days 450studio.com-w2x (01.05.2008 20:23): i still with the vector art changing stuff and such trying new things. it will be finished so that will not be a problem for you 450studio.com-w2x (01.05.2008 22:55): i have this great design but i have so much problems with the out lining in this damn new illustator i bought. but i will keep working on it till i am done. can't let you wait any longer Machete_Rodriguez (02.05.2008 15:16): yo carlos let me know when you have any idea when your ready. need to be able to calculate with it. thats why i need something like a deadline.. i mean you told me 2 days ago "today", so this time come up with something you can honestly reach sure thing i feel for you with your illustrator issue, so dont take my bitching personal please 450studio.com-w2x (04.05.2008 13:52): i will be back at nine today. i want to finisht he drawing part. colering is the easy part. so i think if i put in a couple of hours tonight i can have it done by the end of tomorrow with the full template of the site. because you had to wait this long i will give you a 50% on your next project. what ever it is. Machete_Rodriguez (05.05.2008 17:39): would be nice if you could tell me if you can finish it today, so i can tell my tech to stay in the office 450studio.com-w2x (05.05.2008 17:54): i am coloring now. yeah just got back. had to buy some stuff Machete_Rodriguez (05.05.2008 18:02): great so i can expect the design today? 450studio.com-w2x (05.05.2008 18:02): yeah Machete_Rodriguez (06.05.2008 18:18): yo carlos please get back to me as soon as possible man. its been weeks now man.. everyday you promise to get it done but you never succeed. if you cant get it done its no prob man. just refund me and forget about it. not going to bad mouth you or something dont worry. i just need to organize things on my end and put trust in company´s like yours. its not acceptable anymore for me Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 10:02): morning carlos.. just woke up and sent you an email to [email protected] - not looking for drama or something just read it and i hope you understand it Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:36): yeah buts its no where looking like me and no detailed at all and the turnarround is really not acceptable for me anymore Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:36): i mean keep $50 for the work you did with it or something but i really cant accept it anymore man Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:40): yeah but thats another thing you didnt tell me. just check for the icq history, i have asked you if you have drawn it and you said yes so i expected the same quality on it. then yesterday you asked me whats missing or what i want to add. i told you the girls vagina is missing now she wears a tanga Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:40): iam pretty upset with the whole workarround man. just refund me and forget about it Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:41): not trying to bitch arround or something dont get me wrong but if your honest you know that your fucked up on this one 450studio.com-w2x (07.05.2008 11:42): ok. but you got to wait till next week and i will refund you 250. Well i still think it is good looking design. But if you don't tink so then that is ok. Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:43): yeah but thats the next fuck up.. waiting till next week because i put trust in you and paid you upfront. i can send you an invoice via paypal if you can handle it so you can pay using your creditcard/bank account. or you just load up your epass via cc 450studio.com-w2x (07.05.2008 11:45): i don't use cc. and really not paypal they still have 800 from me Machete_Rodriguez (07.05.2008 11:46): and when next week can i expect my money? 450studio.com-w2x (07.05.2008 11:46): monday |
i still woudnt have my refund yet, but a good friend who WAS related to 450 stepped up the plate and refunded me out of his OWN pocket.. carlos still hasnt paid his debts to him.. so i will send the money back and loose out $300 for nothing. Thats no refund, thats pure SCAM! I even gave him $50 for his crappy work for nothing.. ahh fuck it.. carlos.. the name sounded gringo style from day 1
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The designer that got fucked in this deal.. Hit me up, I have been looking to hire a wordpress designer and a programmer for a long time.... AND I ALWAYS PAY MY PEOPLE! |
Where are they based?
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there's barely anything even in the portfolio's. |
This scumbag always telling lies about the payment that he owes, He always say that some client did not pay him thats why he cant pay the designer and programmer. He also said that he needs his loan fixed for him to pay them, its been almost 3 months and these guys dont have their payments. I feel sorry for them.
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that nicly put i have to say. Jens you have been refunded. Phil i have paid you. yes those other two i have not yet. and i have made arangements for that. But phill you also know i have helped designers our counless of times. or did you forget that. I had that script analized and there is nothing there really nothing. That is tollay wrong.
Don't make me out for a bad guy. I resolving all the problems. i just can resolve them in a day ok. I have been scammed by designers several times. But you don't hear me bitch about it. I am resolving each of these problems. So it will be fine. By the way real nice phill after i gave you a long term client to work with. |
i am not going to resolve this on gfy. i will arange this with the two people it is about. They can contact me but i will surly talk to them.
o yeah jens. This money was returned to that person you called friend. But if i remember well i intrpduced you two, too each other so you could work together. made him money and you got things done by some one with skills. That is my friend ok. |
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THERE IS A REASON THE TERM "MADE IN AMERICA" HAS VALUE. |
This Carlos guy has pulled this scam a number of times, each time coming back with a different name.
I worked four months with him to get an affiliate program online and after all that he disappeared and reappeared a few months later with a new company name. He's done it at least 1 other times including both of these. |
Seriously guys do your fucking research.......
http://www.gfy.com/14005638-post19.html http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/818759-hiring-post14005638.html |
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jason berardi is a crook http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=765109 |
The toon is 404'ing - guess it was bad ?
Being one that does some design myself..(not toons) I always hate to hear about stolen content or deisgns..its hard enough to make unique deisgns but then to have someone steal it to call their own just sucks |
Hope this issue will be resolved.
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Mmm good to know I was looking to get some designs done by them. Good I didn't work with them. saved me lot of headache.
If you guys are looking for something work done, look me up, I can introduce to one of the freelance designer who has done some excellent work for me |
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is that the guy who run the silverclouddesigns a few years ago that who did not paid his designers as well? if i recall it correctly, ella work for him and not getting paid also
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“It is better to suffer wrong than to do it, and happier to be sometimes cheated than not to trust.” |
Well good to know.... stay away from the companies in the drama threads :)
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So anyone got paid?? or is Carlos still making excuses like he did previously.....
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We are still not yet paid, we are still waiting but carlos dont even try to contact us and fix this mess. His ICQ is always offline or not available so I think he has no plans on paying us. He is a certified scammer! a cheater! earns money from other people by using them and not paying them!
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So keep this thread bumped daily then hey, he gets the shits after a while and pays.... most of the time...
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sounds sooooo familiar to what happened to me...
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