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donnylong 12-20-2008 09:31 PM

GOOGLE and YAHOO Bot and SEO tricks THREAD
 
So I am slowly learning what SEO, PR and Bots really are, and how they work. I read on some boards that it could take up to 3 months for them to raise your PR but I was wondering if anyone knew how long it takes for a new site to get listed? How often do these bots come around? Whats your PR and how does it really work?


Also What are the best ways to get high ranked? What I have read says that the more links in from high PR sites the higher your ranking will go. I also read that even if you have links to higher PR site going to them but them not coming to you helps? :Oh crap

Also how does the system work if you build a huge site, lets say a giant tube or something bigger than the big boys tubes and the bot comes to your site for the first time. Do you get a higher ranking right out the door and a better listing?

Post what you know here even if you don't know shit just to get some answers and lets make this thread 100000000000 pages long and maybe we will figure out how to get to the top :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My new tube needs links trades Hit me up! http://www.biggestporntube.com

Si 12-20-2008 09:34 PM

Yahoo is easier to get higher PR. there are certain ways to promote your sites through yahoo that get google to put your PR up because they don't want to lose out to there rivals.

donnylong 12-20-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15225707)
Yahoo is easier to get higher PR. there are certain ways to promote your sites through yahoo that get google to put your PR up because they don't want to lose out to there rivals.

certain ways??? please explain? :winkwink:

qxm 12-20-2008 09:45 PM

I am writing the blue-prints of my SEO techniques to hand u my business on a silver platter .. wait up.. there is lots of stuff to write 'bout....:upsidedow

~Ray 12-20-2008 09:51 PM

I use the Ronco SEO technique

set it and forget it

Barefootsies 12-20-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15225699)
if anyone knew how long it takes for a new site to get listed?

Depends on your experience, existing sites, whatever. Speed up the process by using Google Analytics, and listing new sites there. It will then prompt the spider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15225699)
How often do these bots come around?

Can depend on how often you update your site, but use your meta tags to give robot instructions. 1, day, follow, index, etc.

Si 12-20-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15225717)
certain ways??? please explain? :winkwink:

I'm trying to find the website for you. it was very interesting, basically the main thing it pointer out is:
Yahoo advertising is cheaper than google adsense, invest some money in yahoo. the cheap traffic generated by yahoo+the high amount of views(along with having already put as many key words and meta tags into your site) will cause a big bump up on google PR.
Yahoo adsense type features are a hell of a lot cheaper than google(not sure on the excact figures) but say you invest $200 in yahoo you will get between %10-%50 more click than the same $200 invested in google due to the rates being a hell of cheaper. I think on some yahoo (adsense type programs) a banner click is about 0.01c-0.20c per click that is very low compared to google!

If i find the site again I will post it for you. dont sign up! whatever you it gives away enough in the pitch to make sense and give you some inside help.

Look out for the post. if anyone believes it is BS please post proof!

:thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 12-20-2008 09:58 PM

i dont know why people always wonder such silly things. Stop thinking about how to get better rank instead think of how you would be more relevant.

almost all your questions have a yes and no answer at the same time.

at the end of the day relevence is key

Lewis Woof 12-20-2008 09:59 PM

donny you are a fucking total moron

jollyperv 12-20-2008 10:05 PM

Stuffing a bunch of keywords on the bottom of each page, then making the text the same as the background color is what REALLY works.

tony286 12-20-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 15225785)
Stuffing a bunch of keywords on the bottom of each page, then making the text the same as the background color is what REALLY works.

why did you give the secret away? lol

woj 12-20-2008 10:30 PM

the first thing you should do is get a Google Priority ID :2 cents:

Iron Fist 12-20-2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 15225785)
Stuffing a bunch of keywords on the bottom of each page, then making the text the same as the background color is what REALLY works.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You wouldn't believe how many people think this doesn't work, but it really does!

donnylong 12-20-2008 11:02 PM

if you build a huge site, lets say a giant tube or something bigger than the big boys tubes and the bot comes to your site for the first time. Do you get a higher ranking right out the door and a better listing?

peeperpimp 12-20-2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15225754)
I'm trying to find the website for you. it was very interesting, basically the main thing it pointer out is:
Yahoo advertising is cheaper than google adsense, invest some money in yahoo. the cheap traffic generated by yahoo+the high amount of views(along with having already put as many key words and meta tags into your site) will cause a big bump up on google PR.
Yahoo adsense type features are a hell of a lot cheaper than google(not sure on the excact figures) but say you invest $200 in yahoo you will get between %10-%50 more click than the same $200 invested in google due to the rates being a hell of cheaper. I think on some yahoo (adsense type programs) a banner click is about 0.01c-0.20c per click that is very low compared to google!

If i find the site again I will post it for you. dont sign up! whatever you it gives away enough in the pitch to make sense and give you some inside help.

Look out for the post. if anyone believes it is BS please post proof!

:thumbsup

lol Good tip :thumbsup :winkwink:

leek 12-20-2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15225699)

My eyes!!!!111

Mark_E4A 12-20-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15225949)
if you build a huge site, lets say a giant tube or something bigger than the big boys tubes and the bot comes to your site for the first time. Do you get a higher ranking right out the door and a better listing?

depends what you consider a better listing, you MIGHT get a good rank quick, but if you try too quick put your shorts on and grab your shovel, youll be diggin your way out for a while.

there are many many factors to getting good ranks and many more to keeping the ranks. One slip could land ya in the shiter.

ps: dont believe what you read, specially on boards.

seeric 12-20-2008 11:20 PM

SEO Rule #1

Don't train your competition.

2012 12-20-2008 11:23 PM

I don't know shit

qxm 12-20-2008 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15226025)
SEO Rule #1

Don't train your competition.

lol .. best post of the night :thumbsup

donnylong 12-20-2008 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 15226003)
depends what you consider a better listing, you MIGHT get a good rank quick, but if you try too quick put your shorts on and grab your shovel, youll be diggin your way out for a while.

there are many many factors to getting good ranks and many more to keeping the ranks. One slip could land ya in the shiter.

ps: dont believe what you read, specially on boards.

i am adding tons of videos into this new tube site and wondering how much of a difference its going to make? I have got over 6000 videos in it in the last couple days and adding a bunch more. From what I see no one knows how to get or not get traffic with tubes?

Also do html pages get better ranking than php?

TeenCat 12-20-2008 11:52 PM

backlinks ...

WarChild 12-20-2008 11:53 PM

Your tube with 1 minute clips is never going to outrank the big boys no matter what you do. Maybe you should make a tgp instead.

tiger 12-21-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15226025)
SEO Rule #1

Don't train your competition.

:2 cents::2 cents:

donnylong 12-21-2008 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15226120)
Your tube with 1 minute clips is never going to outrank the big boys no matter what you do. Maybe you should make a tgp instead.

they are not ALL one min, there are 3 and 5 min from some sponsors and I am buying some tube content for it!


hey Barefootsies,
How does this meta setup look?


<head>
<title>BIGGEST PORN TUBE - Home</title>
<meta name="description" content="Biggest Porn Tube with more porn videos than any website instructions. 1, day, follow, index, Daily, updates.">

2012 12-21-2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15226236)
they are not ALL one min, there are 3 and 5 min from some sponsors and I am buying some tube content for it!


hey Barefootsies,
How does this meta setup look?


<head>
<title>BIGGEST PORN TUBE - Home</title>
<meta name="description" content="Biggest Porn Tube with more porn videos than any website instructions. 1, day, follow, index, Daily, updates.">

<title>Teen Free Porn Tube | Free Teens Porno Movie Tube</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="teen, free, porn tube, movies">
<meta name="description" content="Free Teens Porno Movie Tube">

or whatever the fuck it is ... I thought it was nubiles girls. get ride of all caps couldn't hurt

donnylong 12-21-2008 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15226281)
<title>Teen Free Porn Tube | Free Teens Porno Movie Tube</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="teen, free, porn tube, movies">
<meta name="description" content="Free Teens Porno Movie Tube">

or whatever the fuck it is ... I thought it was nubiles girls. get ride of all caps couldn't hurt

its not working when I add certain stuff because its php and i am not good at this computer stuff hahahhaha. Do the caps hurt it at all? :Oh crap

}
elseif($title_desc == '' and $cat_name == '') {
$title_desc= 'I can add stuff here ';
}
if($meta_desc == '') {
$meta_desc = 'and add here and thats it ';

Agent 488 12-21-2008 01:09 AM

http://www.google.com/addurl/

papill0n 12-21-2008 01:13 AM

hit up pussyserver he is an seo guru

SmokeyTheBear 12-21-2008 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15226236)
they are not ALL one min, there are 3 and 5 min from some sponsors and I am buying some tube content for it!


hey Barefootsies,
How does this meta setup look?


<head>
<title>BIGGEST PORN TUBE - Home</title>
<meta name="description" content="Biggest Porn Tube with more porn videos than any website instructions. 1, day, follow, index, Daily, updates.">

:Oh crap
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow">

2012 12-21-2008 01:19 AM


SmokeyTheBear 12-21-2008 01:20 AM

but index follow is default and google chooses when to crawl your site not you so they ignore your rate

Scroto 12-21-2008 01:22 AM

seo and nubiles script don't go together very well :2 cents:

dumpfly 12-21-2008 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 15225785)
Stuffing a bunch of keywords on the bottom of each page, then making the text the same as the background color is what REALLY works.

This have proven effective time and time again. Old tricks are the best tricks :thumbsup

d-null 12-21-2008 01:29 AM

I don't even have the energy to ******* this thread.....

donnylong 12-21-2008 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15226361)
:Oh crap
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow">

yea index follow is default! hey by the way we aresigning up to big clicks through the nice banner you made me :thumbsup

Antonio 12-21-2008 02:01 AM

Man, 6000 tube site is a tiny tube site, the big boys have 60 000 + pages/movies, I dropped 4-5 tubes with all the hosted flvs I could find at that point, I think 6000 entries around then, Google gave me about 30-50 hits right away, that's about all the love you'd get if you do nothing else (and not even that is guaranteed).

yes, big site really works, if you can create 50 000 entries site you'll get some google love (on some pages I get up to 300-500 hits from Google) only with a few links from your sites but then again you never know how long and if that willl last. Also I create huge sites only on old domains, I'm not even sure if it makes any difference at all but havign a brand new domain regged and dropping a site that grows from 0 to 50000 pages in two days is something I wouldn't do.

If you want to make sure that your site will be loved by Google there's only one way - unique aontent, must really appeal to people - it it does they'll start liking to your site in a "nomral" way in blog posts, forums etc instead of the side links we all used to swap, with patience and perseverance it'll build up ...... may be.

donnylong 12-21-2008 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 15226500)
Man, 6000 tube site is a tiny tube site, the big boys have 60 000 + pages/movies, I dropped 4-5 tubes with all the hosted flvs I could find at that point, I think 6000 entries around then, Google gave me about 30-50 hits right away, that's about all the love you'd get if you do nothing else (and not even that is guaranteed).

yes, big site really works, if you can create 50 000 entries site you'll get some google love (on some pages I get up to 300-500 hits from Google) only with a few links from your sites but then again you never know how long and if that willl last. Also I create huge sites only on old domains, I'm not even sure if it makes any difference at all but havign a brand new domain regged and dropping a site that grows from 0 to 50000 pages in two days is something I wouldn't do.

If you want to make sure that your site will be loved by Google there's only one way - unique aontent, must really appeal to people - it it does they'll start liking to your site in a "nomral" way in blog posts, forums etc instead of the side links we all used to swap, with patience and perseverance it'll build up ...... may be.

What big tubes have 50000? redtube shows 8785 videos, tube8 shows 15k ! but i do agree with you about the content, blogs, forums, and links back to the site.
THAT IS THE KEY!

rowan 12-21-2008 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15225707)
Yahoo is easier to get higher PR. there are certain ways to promote your sites through yahoo that get google to put your PR up because they don't want to lose out to there rivals.

Blind leading the blind

Antonio 12-21-2008 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15226533)
What big tubes have 50000? redtube shows 8785 videos, tube8 shows 15k ! but i do agree with you about the content, blogs, forums, and links back to the site.
THAT IS THE KEY!


my bad, I thought that they are much bigger


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