have alot of sponsors given up?
 

seems like alot more programs are on autopilot, trying to email and signup for different ones and often you get no email back,

it seems like email especially is not even being looked at by more and more of them, email is getting to be a frustrating thing often :2 cents:


see threads on here continually saying the same thing, "how do I contact...?"

looks like quite a few could care less if potential affiliates are out there and interested in promoting them

Yeah i think you are right there are a hell of alot of threads people asking how do i contact such and such. Kinda sucks really

At least if they would have the decency to email everyone letting them know and not to push their shit no longer. Its a daily issue where people post and complain about non payments or sponsor sites that are down for days.

Here's my two cents: I am currently re-designing PeabodyCash, my AP (see sig) and populating it with promo tools. I run everything myself so it's VERY easy to get ahold of me: email, ICQ, anything.

BUT with the larger programs I think they're going through 'shrinking pains', the opposite of 'growing pains', and they're scrambling, freaking out, trying to figure out how to just maintain their overhead, salaries, taxes, etc etc, so they're letting things slip. Either that, or they've decided 'fuck this shit' and are turning their attention towards mainstream or something and just letting their programs die.

I LOVE my affiliates so signup with me and I'll communicate with you quite nicely. :)

Good luck! It sucks to whistle in the wind and never hear anything back.

Yeah it is just common decency to let the affiliates know, they have probably worked hard to promote them for years and then can't even get a reply from them.

One door closes, another one opens. B2B is the only way to go these days.

Well, not "the only" way to go but it's sure getting close to that. Diversification almost dictates keeping one toe in everything you've done up to now but B2B is where it's headed. Now, can the 'small guys' keep up, merge, flourish, even DO a B2B business model?

We shall see...

This is only the tip of the iceberg tootsie.

Wait until you get into 2010. Many in this industry will be forced out.

It has begun...

:2 cents:

i tried to sign up to xmovies over 3 weeks ago. still nothing depsite emailing them and asking why i never heard back.../

You can hit me up anytime D-Null we're always here trying to do biz with motivated affiliates

Sponsors with no communication are useless.

to say that the industry is in a state of transition, is a pretty big understatement. 2010 will be interesting

Alot of companies have gone under and more will follow.

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When I get emails (ones sent directly to me or to support@) I try to reply to them right away. I never let an email go unanswered. I may be just a rep, but I do everything that I can to make sure that affiliates are taken care of as quick as possible.

Very well said. I am doing the same, I am redoing my cash site with ccbtools and contact info is very clear and people get answered 99% the same day.

We are hardcore, alive and kicking

sales team available 24/7

Massive updates, new sites the full monty

Sad, but I think you are right.

IMO, a lot of programs are already running on razor thin margins and cant afford to pay $35 PPS or 60% revshare and expect to stay in business.

The larger programs have the advance with cross sale opportunities with their network of sites or upselling the customer to other products.

Maybe they got smart and started to phase out the affiliate model. Everyone knows it's a dead end road anyway. All programs should focus on internal traffic, because that is the future. Affiliates, your days are numbered.

The small program owners are busy building new tube sites:winkwink:

Our dvd store has been around since 2003, pay sites are pretty new but our program is stronger than ever! I'm kicking myself for not getting into the paysite game sooner. :thumbsup

This has turned very quickly into a sponsors SPAM thread, oh well don't most threads anyway? Some companies come and some companies go, just more going than usual right now.

I agree, it's getting fucking aggravating!!

Please.... let's see.. get traffic for practically $0 investment. Now having internal traffic is nice, but let's not overreact by thinking with the old "all eggs in one basket approach". :2 cents:

Exactly, diversification is very important. :thumbsup

Investment? Is that a joke?

Affiliate manager(s), cost of promo tools, etc. is as COST. This does not even get into the bandwidth and infrastructure to sponsor hosted galleries, movies, and alike. Or the cost of the production, more over the designer and other EXPENSES. As are these insanely huge PPS, or even 50% of the sign ups.

I do not know about you, but that "cheap affiliate model" is fairly costly from a BUSINESS OWNER perspective when you start adding up the TRUE COSTS of supporting a decent number of affiliates.

:2 cents:

Are you serious? The affiliate model is very expensive, and becoming not worth the hassle and expense.

What is going to happen is, programs are slowing going to phase out the bulk of affiliates and only continue working with the top ones, while feeding their sites with internal traffic to pick up the slack. This is a MUCH cheaper model.

You guys can laugh it up now if you want. Please bookmark this thread and visit it again in 2 - 3 years. Lets see where the affiliate model is then. 80% of you won't be here, that much I know.

True dat.
:pimp

yeah, it does get annoying sometimes

let alone the "promo tools" which are done one time, affiliates cost nothing.
There is no other way to get a swarm of people to work for you and be paid only for results.
Any in-house traffic manager will cost you, and by today's conversion ratios, will cost you more even if you get 100% of the profits.
There are a handfull of non-affiliate programs but they operate in small niches and the number of sales is limited.
The affiliate model is not going away soon. Just look at mainstream market who just realized the value of affiliates and are counting more and more on this model.

I don't doubt it will happen but not in 2-3 years. People were saying the same thing 5 years ago and still, little has changed. Generating massive inhouse traffic is still expensive though. You either have to pay for traffic, most of which the quality is questionable or hire a team of people to make sites out the ass (which won't be instantly profitable).

I sure know we haven't..I think a lot of the big guys out there have their heads down working hard to get new things out there for those that want to work their way out of the current climate.

There was a thread here with programs that still update.

or perhaps, having done this a lot longer than you and having a ton of data to pull from, they've done a cost analysis of chasing affiliates and have decided to go in a new direction.

good luck going with the same business model people were failing with 10yrs ago. :thumbsup

well fraud is up too. alot of affiliates are going in for the quick score, carding etc. Basically, if something looks off when someone signs up, they just dont get approved.
If they ask why, of course we respond with our reasons. We are still on top of affiliate support just as much as ever.
Duke

The hypocrisy being that those xsales you're buying are signups generated by affiliates.
The only one who failed here is you. You failed, several times, to make money the honest way and had to resort to shady tactics.
For several years your "contribution" was nothing more than bursting your already overinflated ego, which is really all you can show off.

I'm sure you're right.:1orglaugh

what is it you do again?:1orglaugh

It's not for me to speculate who is and isn't around, all I can say is www.pimproll.com and all is sister companies are alive and VERY much kicking. Anyone needs anything you can get in touch with me, if I can't help you, you can bet your ass I'll put you in touch with someone who can help you.

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www.massivedollars.com
www.makebank.com
www.persignup.com

I'll be glad to help in any way I can with these programmes :)

too bad only a couple programs know how to generate traffic and seo.

Our affiliates are banking hardcore still

Affiliate model still very very much alive

Not too many post on boards though