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BFT3K 12-12-2010 10:54 AM

The Truth About The Herb "Salvia"
 
You can NOT get high from it, at all!

I have no idea why it's even in the news.

You will get more of a buzz from smoking a fish.

AzteK 12-12-2010 10:56 AM

I'm interested in smoking a fish. Just pack it in a bowl and spark away?

Amputate Your Head 12-12-2010 11:06 AM

Salvia is an atypical hallucinogen. "High" is not the right term for the effects of salvia. But it will most definitely fuck you up. :2 cents:

Emil 12-12-2010 11:09 AM

Wrong, you can. But there different types of Salvia and a normal lighter wont do the trick.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-12-2010 11:15 AM

Smoking a bowl of dried leaf like you would weed won't do shit.

uno 12-12-2010 11:22 AM

seriously, salvia is one of the craziest, most immersive trips you can have outside dmt.

nikki99 12-12-2010 11:34 AM

I smoked salvia many times and it does shit, need to be a processed salvia to make u high, the herb is not making u high is bullshit

CaptainHowdy 12-12-2010 11:35 AM

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BFT3K 12-12-2010 11:35 AM

Drinking water out of a garden hose will fuck you up 10X's more than smoking a pound of this effect-less herb. If you are getting high off of Salvia, then you are really not using Salvia - it is either laced, or it is something else entirely. Salvia does nothing.

The best use for it may be to mix it 50/50 with weed, so your joints look and feel more substantial, and will smoke down more evenly. Salvia is definitely much smoother than tobacco in that regard, but it offers no "high" at all.

Machete_ 12-12-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17768198)
I smoked salvia many times and it does shit, need to be a processed salvia to make u high, the herb is not making u high is bullshit

you smoked it wrong.

first of all you need to do it with a torch lighter because the alkaloids in it break down at extremely high temperatures.

and second, you probably smoked some crap or didn't do it right. get at least 5x extract and smoke a couple good bowls.


like AMP said, it has a potency to really fuck you up.

Machete_ 12-12-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768200)
Drinking water out of a garden hose will fuck you up 10X's more than smoking a pound of this effect-less herb. If you are getting high off of Salvia, then you are really not using Salvia - it is either laced, or it is something else entirely. Salvia does nothing.

Idiot .

NaughtyVisions 12-12-2010 11:41 AM

The wife used to watch the tv show The Doctors....awhile back they did a segment where a doctor was researching salvia and its effects. They monitored brain waves and behavior:


nikki99 12-12-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17768202)
smoke a couple good bowls.


bowls?, now that is different... probably I get fucked with my lungs be4 get high :winkwink:

BFT3K 12-12-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17768202)
you smoked it wrong.

first of all you need to do it with a torch lighter because the alkaloids in it break down at extremely high temperatures.

and second, you probably smoked some crap or didn't do it right. get at least 5x extract and smoke a couple good bowls.

like AMP said, it has a potency to really fuck you up.

All of what you and AMP are saying may be true. All I know is that smoking it in a joint, or in a bowl using a regular match or lighter, will yield no results.

Perhaps a torch lighter makes it work, but this is the first I am hearing of it, so maybe you guys have a point. Why is this turning into an argument? It would be cool if it worked, as it is still legal in most areas.

From my experience however, it does not live up to any of the hype.

Varius 12-12-2010 11:50 AM

Salvia is an enhancement drug, its usefulness comes in smoking it while on other hallucinogens.

For example, if you are peaking on shrooms and then smoke some, the effect of the shrooms will be exponentially increased.

cherrylula 12-12-2010 11:51 AM

if you have access to good weed, why would you smoke anything else...

Amputate Your Head 12-12-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768222)
All of what you and AMP are saying may be true. All I know is that smoking it in a joint, or in a bowl using a regular match or lighter, will yield no results.

Perhaps a torch lighter makes it work, but this is the first I am hearing of it, so maybe you guys have a point. Why is this turning into an argument? It would be cool if it worked, as it is still legal in most areas.

From my experience however, it does not live up to any of the hype.

get some extract, put it in a bong, use a torch lighter and prepare to enter a whole new dimension. The shit is real bro. You're either doing it wrong or you're using the wrong shit. Salvia is no joke. :2 cents:

cherrylula 12-12-2010 11:52 AM

what about saliva? can you get high from that? :1orglaugh

MaDalton 12-12-2010 11:53 AM

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Machete_ 12-12-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768222)
All of what you and AMP are saying may be true. All I know is that smoking it in a joint, or in a bowl using a regular match or lighter, will yield no results.

Perhaps a torch lighter makes it work, but this is the first I am hearing of it, so maybe you guys have a point. Why is this turning into an argument? It would be cool if it worked, as it is still legal in most areas.

From my experience however, it does not live up to any of the hype.

why don't you at least read up on drugs you're taking?
pretty much every "how-to" on Salvia mentions a torch lighter

eroticsexxx 12-12-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768222)
Perhaps a torch lighter makes it work

Not perhaps...Using anything else is pretty much useless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768222)
From my experience however, it does not live up to any of the hype.

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BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17768232)
why don't you at least read up on drugs you're taking?
pretty much every "how-to" on Salvia mentions a torch lighter

The guy in the video (a few posts above) did not use a torch lighter. Although I do not believe he was high at all, but I guess it made for an interesting show segment.

I read up on most things I try, and the write up for the effects of Salvia was almost line-for-line what the guy in that video repeated - which is precisely why I do not believe that clip in the least. It was staged silliness, complete with the description of what the effects of Salvia supposedly are.

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17768231)

Is that Cher?

Amputate Your Head 12-12-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768241)
The guy in the video (a few posts above) did not use a torch lighter. Although I do not believe he was high at all, but I guess it made for an interesting show segment.

I read up on most things I try, and the write up for the effects of Salvia was almost line-for-line what the guy in that video repeated - which is precisely why I do not believe that clip in the least. It was staged silliness, complete with the description of what the effects of Salvia supposedly are.

if you're looking for a 'high' like you would expect from weed, you're going to be disappointed. Again, Salvia is an atypical hallucinogen. The effects cannot be accurately described in words, you have to experience it for yourself. I'm not lying to you dude, there is no point. I've done the shit many times.

Machete_ 12-12-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17768214)
The wife used to watch the tv show The Doctors....awhile back they did a segment where a doctor was researching salvia and its effects. They monitored brain waves and behavior:


This is either fake or they are doing it wrong.

A person fucked up on salvia wouldn't be able to walk, much less have a coherent conversation with anyone. He'd be lying down traveling the other worlds.

The trip is very intense, but very short too (5-10 mins)

Oh and the best way to do it is be alone in a dark room, lying down. If you're clowning around with a bunch of people around you might not even feel it. So yeah, go read on how to smoke it the proper way.

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17768247)
if you're looking for a 'high' like you would expect from weed, you're going to be disappointed. Again, Salvia is an atypical hallucinogen. The effects cannot be accurately described in words, you have to experience it for yourself. I'm not lying to you dude, there is no point. I've done the shit many times.

Who said you were lying? I am not arguing with anyone over this - it is just a conversation.

If the high heat from a torch lighter makes the difference, then I was wrong - who cares?

If "extract" is necessary, versus dried leaves, then there you go! - who cares?

It's just another stupid GFY conversation.... no big deal. It's not like I have a vested interest in this. In a few months it will just be another illegal drug anyway.

Salvia is in the mint family, like catnip. I wonder if the torch lighter theory also works with catnip....

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17768250)
This is either fake or they are doing it wrong.

A person fucked up on salvia wouldn't be able to walk, much less have a coherent conversation with anyone. He'd be lying down traveling the other worlds.

The trip is very intense, but very short too (5-10 mins)

Oh and the best way to do it is be alone in a dark room, lying down. If you're clowning around with a bunch of people around you might not even feel it. So yeah, go read on how to smoke it the proper way.

I read up on it, and the first time I tried it I was alone, on a bed, in a dark room. I did everything that was suggested and recommended, and... nothing!

I did not try the torch lighter though, as it was ever mentioned, so who knows....

uno 12-12-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768200)
Drinking water out of a garden hose will fuck you up 10X's more than smoking a pound of this effect-less herb. If you are getting high off of Salvia, then you are really not using Salvia - it is either laced, or it is something else entirely. Salvia does nothing.

The best use for it may be to mix it 50/50 with weed, so your joints look and feel more substantial, and will smoke down more evenly. Salvia is definitely much smoother than tobacco in that regard, but it offers no "high" at all.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 17768270)
You have no clue what you're talking about.

And this is news, how?

uno 12-12-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768253)
Who said you were lying? I am not arguing with anyone over this - it is just a conversation.

If the high heat from a torch lighter makes the difference, then I was wrong - who cares?

If "extract" is necessary, versus dried leaves, then there you go! - who cares?

It's just another stupid GFY conversation.... no big deal. It's not like I have a vested interest in this. In a few months it will just be another illegal drug anyway.

Salvia is in the mint family, like catnip. I wonder if the torch lighter theory also works with catnip....

You don't need extract, but it helps. You can still have pretty intense lower level experiences with a lighter, but not matches. You have to take as big a hit as possible and hold it in for as long as possible and when you exhale, if you are still able, take another hit as big as possible and hold that one in as long as possible also. It definitely works.

You can also roll leaves up into a quid and put it in your lip and hold it there for a long while. It's very unpleasant but it works and lasts markedly longer than smoking it and its less intense.

Trips are often very different. People who start smoking it sometimes have a reverse tolerance where it won't do much their first few tries.

When it does work, you can experience cascading colors, seeing beings(often called 'the goddess'), feel like you're in an alternate reality and more.

uno 12-12-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768259)
I read up on it, and the first time I tried it I was alone, on a bed, in a dark room. I did everything that was suggested and recommended, and... nothing!

I did not try the torch lighter though, as it was ever mentioned, so who knows....

even if you used a lighter, did you keep the hottest part of the flame on it at all times?

HighlyIntoxicated 12-12-2010 12:34 PM

Besides using a torch ligher/jet flame lighter, you have to hold in the smoke for atleast 20 seconds. For the best trips 20x + works great.

If you've done it right, you will be in another world before you exhale all the smoke.

Look at my username. I know what I am talking about :)

Ayla_SquareTurtle 12-12-2010 12:34 PM

Never touched the stuff myself, but if you had ever been around someone who used it and ACTUALLY KNEW HOW to use it, you would NOT be in here spewing this nonsense. That stuff is capable of sending you to another fucking planet. It can actually be quite uncomfortable to even be around someone on salvia, depending on how they handle it, because it is that intense.

cherrylula 12-12-2010 12:35 PM

I love these kind of threads... all you damn druggies. :1orglaugh

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17768284)
You don't need extract, but it helps. You can still have pretty intense lower level experiences with a lighter, but not matches. You have to take as big a hit as possible and hold it in for as long as possible and when you exhale, if you are still able, take another hit as big as possible and hold that one in as long as possible also. It definitely works.

You can also roll leaves up into a quid and put it in your lip and hold it there for a long while. It's very unpleasant but it works and lasts markedly longer than smoking it and its less intense.

Trips are often very different. People who start smoking it sometimes have a reverse tolerance where it won't do much their first few tries.

When it does work, you can experience cascading colors, seeing beings(often called 'the goddess'), feel like you're in an alternate reality and more.

Thanks for all of the advice, but any drug that requires special mood lighting, no friends, no distractions, and torch lighters, is way too much work, and a bridge too far. I'll just stick with weed and alcohol. :1orglaugh

Varius 12-12-2010 12:39 PM

The best hallucinogen is still Ayahuasca :2 cents:

BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17768317)
The best hallucinogen is still Ayahuasca :2 cents:

LSD is, was, and will always be, at the top of the hallucinogenic food chain.

Salvia, nutmeg, rosewood seeds, mushrooms, morning glory seeds, and whatever other silliness hits the zeitgeist, will never live up to the king of the tripper drugs. If you really want to trip, then acid is the shit....period.

Agent 488 12-12-2010 12:46 PM

you sound scared so you are self-sabotaging yourself.

Machete_ 12-12-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768310)
Thanks for all of the advice, but any drug that requires special mood lighting, no friends, no distractions, and torch lighters, is way too much work, and a bridge too far. I'll just stick with weed and alcohol. :1orglaugh

it's not a recreational drug, so you are probably better off without it

Riffhard 12-12-2010 12:49 PM

I smoked the leaves and felt absolutely nothing. Then I smoked 20X extract and turned into a spaghetti-o.


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