my guess as to what Romney is hiding
 

i bet his tax returns show that he was a resident of utah while running for governor of massachussetts, & therefore should not have been eligible to be a candidate in their governors race.

either that, or he has been hiding money outside the USA to avoid taxation.

whatever it is, it's bad, & will kill his campaign if disclosed.

:2 cents:

Or maybe he isn't really a US citizen, or maybe a radical Muslim, or maybe he is affiliated with US terrorist groups, or maybe he is a globalist on a mission to drag the US down to the level of a third world country, or maybe he wants to incarcerate all MMJ users, or maybe he will promise everything and deliver nothing until the elections get close and then he will throw niche groups a bone to get their vote. Maybe.

That's just funny.... nicely done

When John McCain vetted him for VP , he supplied 23 years of tax returns ... McCain selected Sarah Palin ... Make you go ... hummmmmmmmmm !!!!

Barry got away with hiding his birth certificate.

Did you know that Romney's father is why politicians voluntarily release tax returns today? You'd think he'd follow in his dad's tradition... Unless he has something to hide.

If Obama is any example of what hiding shit about your past does for you, not only should he hide whatever it is but kill anybody who gets in his way or knows too much.

Its strange that it bothers you about anybody else but as long as its Obama its all good.

Soooooooo tired of American politics, its no surprise all your daytime soap operas have been cancelled, you have this horse shit to keep all of you entertained. Democrat / Republican, who gives a fuck, find ANYONE in your country that has an ounce of class that can bring back some respect to your country.

People in this thread who still think Obama didn't provide a birth certificate are looney.

He provided it before he ever ran; then wack jobs said that's not it provide a long form and
he did that too.

Fucking retards are still stuck on stupid about the birth certificate.

QFT

:thumbsup

I agree, but to take this one step further, is this really what all of you should be worried about? You or your neighbor are losing their house, your kids are hungry, you can't find work, you get sick and have to pay for it but can't afford it, you are in wars you don't even know about, your life savings are being thrown down the drain by 22 yr old MIT students on wall street who don't give a fuck about you.

Nope, who gives a flying fuck about all that, we should discuss the president's birth certificate.

I don't think it is a state citizenship issue, that might be easy to cover up or convince people otherwise. I think it is all about his money and where he is hiding it and/or what he is doing with it to avoid paying taxes. It would look really bad for him if it came out that he ended up paying an effective tax rate of like 5% or something crazy like that, or if it showed him dumping money offshore.

Either way this is terrible for him. Imagine if they get to the debates and Obama asks him live on stage why he isn't releasing them. There is no good answer.

These dumb MoFos talk about what they can understand :

"did somebody hand over a piece of paper that they can't even read".

:1orglaugh

Weird...when I was younger, NOBODY wanted to pay taxes.
The Federal govt. was something that none of us trusted.
The media questioned "big brother" govt. at every turn.

Now...if a guy is rich and wants to keep more of HIS OWN money, it's a bad thing? And the media are all 1000% pro-federal govt.?

I guess I'm just getting old. But it sure seems strange to me. I'm of the "old school" opinion of FUCK THE GOVT. and their wasteful bullshit. But that's just my opinion.

Wouldn't it be cool if just ONCE a politician would just answer: "It's none of your goddamn business? Now can we please talk about the issues and why I think I can do a good job running the country?"

But that will never happen in our political arena. :(

Republicans and Democrats will just keep playing the misdirection game while the country is going FOUR BILLION DOLLARS FURTHER IN DEBT EVERY DAY. :(

You're an idiot.

:2 cents:

comments like this is why political discussion is toxic. What in my comment makes you think you know my position on obama's disclosures? do i need to put an asterick in my sig, stating that i support disclosure from both sides of the isle? where do you come off putting words in my mouth, or assuming you know my positions on obama when i didnt mention him at all. did you know im a moderate republican, exactly like the old romney?

nice avatar, but your a fucking twit.

Romney made his money shipping jobs to China

What is Romney hiding in his offshore bank accounts? Money, of course.

yep. i have no idea why obama is even coming up in this thread. this is a simple discussion speculating what romney might be hiding. the birthers are known freaks, unemployed neocons, dead enders as cheney would say.

after i wrote the thread, it occurred to me that the money & taxes angle is much more plausible.

But apparently his residency was a topic in the MA governors race, he had to prove to MA he was living in MA by showing he still ran bain after 99.

This is what Stephen King has to say on Romney and his taxes:

that would be well & good if he was not running for POTUS. Then your 100% right.

But a guy that has a 50/50 shot at executing the laws of the land should not try to dodge the laws he has to enforce. That sort of undermines the rule of law, when the leader of the country is trying to avoid them.

if it really is just a tax loophole & not something more insidious, he is making a blunder dragging this out. Hence i gotta think there is a big problem he is not wanting to disclose. Hence this thread. what would that be?

i guess another way to say it is...you jaywalk, & a cop busts your balls for jaywalking. 10 minutes later, you witness the cop jaywalking. What would you think of the cop?

for any position not enforcing laws, by all means keep those taxes down. its a higher standard when your the cop.

Just because he took advantage of every tax loophole available to him does not mean he is dodging any law.

That would be classic. It might actually score some points for him and get him some support as well.

My thought is..I don't care what he does with HIS money. I care what he will or won't do with OUR money.

The economy is in shambles. We have troops all over the world occupying other people's countries and calling it "freedom". We are getting searched at airports.

Meanwhile Congress just tried to go after...Roger Clemens again.
And there is talk that they may go after Lance Armstrong next.
:disgust

And the media circus has us all in a tither about Obama's birth certificate, where Romney chooses to put his money, Romney with a dog on the roof of his car and Obama eating a dog...
WTF?!?!?

And really...when has ANY president in modern times actually "executed the laws of the land".

To me all of this is just b.s. and misdirection.

Obama or Romney...nothing much will change. I don't see a whole lot of difference between Obama and Bush. They both spend money like drunken sailors. They both have our military occupying countries and killing people worldwide.

The only differences between them that I see are on the little things that don't really matter.

I'd like to see a president put an end to "The Patriot Act". Stop our country from meddling in other countries affairs (is it REALLY our place to try and force The Netherlands to make pot illegal and prostitution illegal? REALLY?)

I'd like to see the TSA completely shut down. What a waste of time and money. They aren't stopping "terrorists" from doing anything.
What happened on 9-11 was addressed the minute they put a locked steel door on the pilot's cabin. That can never happen again.

Can a plane get blown up by a crazy person? Yes.

Has the TSA caught and stopped even ONE person with a bomb? No.

Have they arrested a lot of people with a joint or a gram of coke in their pocket. Yes.

I want my freedom back. I don't give a fuck what Obama or Romney or anybody else does in their private lives. I care about how good of a LEADER they can be (or not be in this case)

Don't hold your breath. Neither Romney or any other politician will EVER do it.

Obama and Romney have a team of handlers who write everything they say and do and carefully test it out with polling before it's ever put out there.

Hell, the only guy who shot from the hip was Ron Paul. And the media immediately painted him to be "crazy".

So if I were Obama or Romney I'd probably do what they do...and just follow my team of handlers and advisers and stick to the safe script.

But it sure would be nice wouldn't it to hear some truth for once.

I still think when Clinton was in office he should have just told everyone: "Hell yes! I love women! Now what the fuck does that have to do with my policies? NOTHING. So stop talking about stupid shit" lol

I would prefer to be talking about who is giving him head, this time of the month and if she is a blond or has big tits.

There is a show on HBO called Veep. It stars Julia Louis-Dreyfus as the Vice President of the United States. It is a comedy and at times seems a little absurd, but parts of it are very real.

For example, a poll shows that people would like her better if she had a dog so she decides to get one. She tells everyone she is going to let her daughter pick out what they get. Meanwhile, they hold a huge discussion and do research to decide what kind of dog she is going to get. In another episode she decides to visit a local frozen yogurt shop and they hold a meeting to decide which flavor yogurt she should get.

Any high level politician is so embedded with their team of handlers that it seems like their every move is meant to gain them favor with some group or another.

What is sad is that Romney was 100% correct during the primaries when he was asked if all the bad blood and muck raking in the primaries would hurt him in the general election and he said it was all kind of like an etch a sketch and you just shake it up and start from scratch. He caught hell of that, but he was right. Nobody remembers any of that, the polls show them dead even (although the electoral college is hugely slanted in Obama's favor at this point). Romney was right and that shortsightedness and willingness to forget or be apathetic is what has gotten us nothing but garbage candidates.

I think part of the reason Perot was so popular when he ran was because he was pretty honest. He broke out his charts and said, "Look, here's the problem. Here is how we are going to fix it. It's going to suck for a while as we fix it, but it will better afterwards." People related to that.

I try to ignore American politics, but my Republican dad insists on sending me all these idiotic fucking email forwards from his got-nothing-better-to-do old white Republican pals who circulate that shit like it's actually "news".

Ask any old white conservative about Obama and they'll regurgitate all kinds of bullshit that they've been tricked into believing because they read it in a fucking email forward! I used to go to great lengths to prove to my dad that all the emails are bullshit, but it's just so exhausting I've given up. :mad:

I do still occasionally send him links to snopes articles, though. That part is easy.

No I think it was Mc Cain who supplied that many tax returns. Mc Cain hated Romney, he wanted Joe Lieberman for his running mate. But rove was putting pressure for Romney so he basically said fuck you to him by picking Palin.

Alot of people think that way then they will change their tune when its their love one killed in a terrorist attack. Then they scream where was government?

You guys are missing the bigger picture.

Republicans are constantly arguing that cutting taxes for the rich creates more jobs. This is a staple of the Romney campaign. If in fact it comes out that Romney is essentially hiding/sheltering his assets in an offshore account, it just goes to show that this is a bullshit theory and proves once again that trickle-down economics does not work.

It's bullshit that only idiots believe.

A business is only going to hire or expand if there is a NEED. You can raise and lower taxes all day long, but if their own market (cars, finance, manufacturing, etc.) is not seeing growth... it's a fools errand.

Taxes may play 'some' part in the equation, but its' a very small one. If there is confidence, growth and stability in the marketplace, companies will expand. It really is that simple.

:thumbsup

I agree with what you say, but I believe you may have missed my point.

that's true.

but he's making a big mistake if he's just trying to shelter legal activity. there really is no reason. its pretty well known he pays lower tax rates then everyone who actually works in the USA.

i suspect he is tax dodging (aka it is not a legal loophole), or something in his taxes undermines a campaign position, maybe the residency issue.

politics aside...seems like anytime a pol wants to keep a secret, the truth is always ugly when it comes out. No pol keeps secrets just to seem mysterious.

this thread is all a speculation, all in good fun. so until romney comes clean, people are going to speculate the worst you know?

hey robbie. you are quite libertarian & i certainly agree with a lot of your points. thing is, part of being in a country with such enormous wealth, & has such a massive legal system, is that the government is looked to to solve every problem in life.

example - katrina kills new orleans...its new orleans fault being located below sea level, but their population (plus the public too by virtue of public opinion polls) demands that the government solve their crisis.

somewhere in the political media it is pointed out the public wants it both ways - low taxes, but unlimited services. politicians cant win either way. but when facing a crisis, the pols on both sides will spend money as the bottom line, because deficits & tax rates can be kicked down the road, as has been happening for a while now.

my personal beef with romney is his tin ear on his tax rates. he has flaunted that he is paying what the law requires & thats enough for him. He never empathizes that people who make crumbs compared to him have to pay higher tax rates, & (to me) there is a problem when a 100 millionaire has a lower tax rate then people who can barely afford to make ends meet. He seems to have no concern about that basic unfairness, & therefore does not relate to the common man. at least obama smoked pot. :)

yep. when i still hear pundits on fox news or fox business say that we can tax cut our way to prosperity, i wonder if they had been on gilligans island through this past decade.