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MrDeiz 01-09-2013 03:40 PM

PlugRush is going to disable Warez sites once reported. Get involved
 
As PlugRush owner/representative says - they are going to lock down every warez site reported. If you know such - email them please at [email protected]

That's a nice gesture and the way to follow for other traffic brokers if they want to get our industry back to normal and have some balls to make it

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1072777&page=91

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Originally Posted by Plugrush (Post 19417496)
Here's the problem man, we have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of websites in our system...we do not have the time nor the staff to go looking at every single website...If we were to hire people to do this, the rates we pay out to webmasters would drop, and this isn't something we want to do. So, we have the e-mail [email protected], and we are also active on this board helping to deal with problems just like this one.



Fat Panda 01-09-2013 03:43 PM

very nice...down with criminals!

seeandsee 01-09-2013 04:03 PM

this is good move i guess

spiederman 01-09-2013 04:06 PM

grab your torch and pitchforks \o/

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-09-2013 04:07 PM

Link pulled

signupdamnit 01-09-2013 07:28 PM

Sounds good. I'll send what I find to that email or we can probably post it here too I would think?

candyflip 01-09-2013 08:48 PM

Warez software or pirated content? Two different things, no?

sandman! 01-09-2013 09:23 PM

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thum bsup

MrDeiz 01-10-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19417787)
Sounds good. I'll send what I find to that email or we can probably post it here too I would think?

yeah, posting it here would be cool

BIGTYMER 01-10-2013 12:41 AM

We should report Google first.

Markul 01-10-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19418072)
We should report Google first.

:thumbsup

Tjeezers 01-10-2013 03:04 AM

Hey great, now you can tell those warez webmasters they should sign up under you and become a real earner cause you got GFY that far you'll cost them their income.

And a extra edit, it is plugrush selling the traffic from warez sites to webmasters here, and now you make it our responsibility to clean up the mess? Rates dropping? If warez was such productive traffic their numbers would have gone up, their responsibility, and yet again you make it ours.

Fact was we as industry sucked right? one of your statements, so do it yourself.

And posting it here? Do you also want us to send you their ICQ so you contact them with a better/replacement deal? Traffic is traffic, i know how you think. When you asked me in 2007 to check up your signbucks and tell me if the idea was OK, I was thinking you where fair and your left hand knew what the right hand was doing. But u have such a sneaky way of playing out people in the industry and gain profit from this.

Black All Through 01-10-2013 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19418169)
Hey great, now you can tell those warez webmasters they should sign up under you and become a real earner cause you got GFY that far you'll cost them their income.

And a extra edit, it is plugrush selling the traffic from warez sites to webmasters here, and now you make it our responsibility to clean up the mess? Rates dropping? If warez was such productive traffic their numbers would have gone up, their responsibility, and yet again you make it ours.

Fact was we as industry sucked right? one of your statements, so do it yourself.

And posting it here? Do you also want us to send you their ICQ so you contact them with a better/replacement deal? Traffic is traffic, i know how you think. When you asked me in 2007 to check up your signbucks and tell me if the idea was OK, I was thinking you where fair and your left hand knew what the right hand was doing. But u have such a sneaky way of playing out people in the industry and gain profit from this.

:2 cents::thumbsup

FingerPrinter 01-10-2013 08:12 AM

Rogue employee / money in motion / user-uploaded / etc...

Nothing to see here, move along.

CaptainHowdy 01-10-2013 09:11 AM

Good going :pimp ...

DamianJ 01-10-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19417869)
Warez software or pirated content? Two different things, no?

What's the difference between infringing upon the copyright of software companies or porn companies?

Killswitch 01-10-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19418169)
Hey great, now you can tell those warez webmasters they should sign up under you and become a real earner cause you got GFY that far you'll cost them their income.

And a extra edit, it is plugrush selling the traffic from warez sites to webmasters here, and now you make it our responsibility to clean up the mess? Rates dropping? If warez was such productive traffic their numbers would have gone up, their responsibility, and yet again you make it ours.

Fact was we as industry sucked right? one of your statements, so do it yourself.

And posting it here? Do you also want us to send you their ICQ so you contact them with a better/replacement deal? Traffic is traffic, i know how you think. When you asked me in 2007 to check up your signbucks and tell me if the idea was OK, I was thinking you where fair and your left hand knew what the right hand was doing. But u have such a sneaky way of playing out people in the industry and gain profit from this.

:Oh crap :Oh crap

notinmybackyard 01-10-2013 09:46 AM

Why is it that it appears every Internet based business seems to get away of transfering responsiblity for the operation of their business on 3rd parties?

Tube site and file lockers = Not our fault someone else uploaded it
Ad networks = We have no way to police these sites


I have been making porn a long time. But because I put the majority of my product on DVD I would be arrested under an hour if I did not take responsibility for my business. I can just imagine throwing out the need for paper work and just asking an actrice to click on something to verify she is over 18. Or claiming I accidentally sent my DVDs to Toys R Us because I have no way of verifying who requested a copies.

It is not rocket science....
You do not put in place any system that you can not directly control. Unless of course your business is somehow based on not being in control.

OK..
I hope for all of your sakes this is the start of a new trend of responsibility and business ethics in the american porn industry

Markul 01-10-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19418567)

It is not rocket science....
You do not put in place any system that you can not directly control. Unless of course your business is somehow based on not being in control.

Come on man, that's the same as saying internet providers need to police that no one uses their connection to do something illegal or asking postal services to open all packages because they have to check that people aren't sending illegal or dangerous goods.

Or asking search engines to only index legal things and make sure that their visitors in every single country cannot access illegal content via their product.

notinmybackyard 01-10-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19418579)
Come on man, that's the same as saying internet providers need to police that no one uses their connection to do something illegal or asking postal services to open all packages because they have to check that people aren't sending illegal or dangerous goods.

Or asking search engines to only index legal things and make sure that their visitors in every single country cannot access illegal content via their product.


Postal services have strict laws and they will personally nail you to the wall if you use their services for fraud or prohibited items. Why do you think pornographers use private delivery services such as UPS in the United States? (And yes they will and do open mail on a regular basis... writ not required.)

In the United States Internet service providers fall under the control of the Federal Communications Commission. They have clearly stated that "Consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice." Now in the United States the interpretation appears to be a subject of debate. It is more of this cat and mouse game that is played. The ISPs make a huge amount of money from ilegal activity so they claim ignorance.

However in my country I was pirated and I just outright sued the ISP after having called the police. They paid me a settlement to go away.

Markul 01-10-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19418665)
Postal services have strict laws and they will personally nail you to the wall if you use their services for fraud or prohibited items. Why do you think pornographers use private delivery services such as UPS in the United States? (And yes they will and do open mail on a regular basis... writ not required.)

In the United States Internet service providers fall under the control of the Federal Communications Commission. They have clearly stated that "Consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice." Now in the United States the interpretation appears to be a subject of debate. It is more of this cat and mouse game that is played. The ISPs make a huge amount of money from ilegal activity so they claim ignorance.

However in my country I was pirated and I just outright sued the ISP after having called the police. They paid me a settlement to go away.

Yea, the services has terms. Just like ad-network has terms. Same same. Still doesn't change the fact that it's fairly silly to ask people to pre-police everything that goes on with their services.

That would mean search engines, hosting providers, ad-networks, ISP, phone companies, postal services and so many other providers of some sort of communication or infrastructure. Companies would simply go out of business.

That's also why it will never happen. Sure the services needs to react when their terms are violated, but to actively monitor everything that goes on is just not going to be possible.

DamianJ 01-10-2013 11:58 AM

Is it just me? I find it somewhat hard to believe that any porn ad network gets SO many requests daily from new sites that it is impossible to take 30 seconds to actually LOOK at the site and see if it is full of juarez or not...

Markul 01-10-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19418796)
Is it just me? I find it somewhat hard to believe that any porn ad network gets SO many requests daily from new sites that it is impossible to take 30 seconds to actually LOOK at the site and see if it is full of juarez or not...

Just because a site is OK today, doesn't mean it's not changed 5 mins after it's approved. Policing would have to be a continuous thing.

Killswitch 01-10-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19418802)
Just because a site is OK today, doesn't mean it's not changed 5 mins after it's approved. Policing would have to be a continuous thing.

:thumbsup

notinmybackyard 01-10-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19418767)
Yea, the services has terms. Just like ad-network has terms. Same same. Still doesn't change the fact that it's fairly silly to ask people to pre-police everything that goes on with their services.

Well the law certainly asks me to do that does it not ??

I print all over the packing of my DVDs warning labels. I go out of my way to keep it out of the hands of children but moment some angry mother or bible thumping asshole calls the police. Do you know what the first question they ask me is?

What am I doing to prevent this from getting into the hands of children. They do not give a rat's ass what my policies or as you put it, "terms and conditions" are. They want to know what it is that I am doing to enforce them.

In the real world this " oh it is not my fault shit" does not fly. And it is not just gun stores, booze stores, porn shops, etc... It is everyone from auto manufacturers to department stores has to poney up and put in a minimum effort to enforce their policies. No one.. I repeat no one in the real world gets to say,
"it is not practical or feasiable and it is fairly silly to ask people to pre-police everything."

I would be sitting in jail if I tried to pull the shit the ISPs and tube sites do. I will tell you exactly what a judge would say to me or any other real pornographer. "You stay closed or do not open at all if you can not control what happens with your product."

Markul 01-10-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19418877)
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Well the law certainly asks me to do that does it not ??

No one.. I repeat no one in the real world gets to say, "it is not practical or feasiable and it is fairly silly to ask people to pre-police everything."

My lawyer says different. That's all I can say man.

notinmybackyard 01-10-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19418902)
My lawyer says different. That's all I can say man.


So give me your lawyer's phone number.

Because I have more than 40 years in porn and I have had my share of problems. If your lawyer is saying it is the contraire to everything I have had to endure and go through over the years... Then I want him to represent me in suing for all my money back plus interest that I have paid out in legal fees, litigation and making sure my back is covered.

Markul 01-10-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19418922)

So give me your lawyer's phone number.

Because I have more than 40 years in porn and I have had my share of problems. If your lawyer is saying it is the contraire to everything I have had to endure and go through over the years... Then I want him to represent me in suing for all my money back plus interest that I have paid out in legal fees, litigation and making sure my back is covered.

Yea he's not in the US dude, so I don't think he'll fly over there to represent you :)

candyflip 01-10-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19418547)
What's the difference between infringing upon the copyright of software companies or porn companies?

If they are stating that they are going after warez, they aren't saying that they are going after pirated content.

Which means that them going after warez in particular does nothing for us.

:wink wink:

notinmybackyard 01-10-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19418932)
Yea he's not in the US dude, so I don't think he'll fly over there to represent you :)


Je ne sus pas américain et je suis très capable de payer ses frais de déplacement.

Tell you what...
Just give me his name and what nation he is located in. I will research his contact information on my own. Because I am really interested in being educated on how I have lost so much money during the last 40 years because of legal problems, fees, etc.

Killswitch 01-10-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19418922)

So give me your lawyer's phone number.

Because I have more than 40 years in porn and I have had my share of problems. If your lawyer is saying it is the contraire to everything I have had to endure and go through over the years... Then I want him to represent me in suing for all my money back plus interest that I have paid out in legal fees, litigation and making sure my back is covered.

Can you stop using this font? It makes it hard to read your responses. Thanks.

Captain Kawaii 01-10-2013 09:12 PM

I heard Plugrush bloggers have been booted from Tumblr. Any truth to that? Related?

adultmobile 01-10-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19419087)
Just give me his name and what nation he is located in. I will research his contact information on my own. Because I am really interested in being educated on how I have lost so much money during the last 40 years because of legal problems, fees, etc.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...shop-owner.jpg

looky_lou 01-10-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19419578)
I heard Plugrush bloggers have been booted from Tumblr. Any truth to that? Related?

Tumblr doesn't allow any affiliate marketing. If they find any affiliate links or ads on your Tumblr sites, they will delete your account.

famous 01-11-2013 12:17 AM

why does anyone need to report anything to plugrush? Does plugrush not have tracking that tells them what urls traffic is being sent from? So why not just check the logs on whos sending you traffic and delete them that way? Seems as if plugrush really wanted to stop them this would be the better way.

JosephFM 01-11-2013 01:16 AM

What about spam networks like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/reportthespa...k_is_evolving/

Can we build fake tubes with redtube embeds and a crap load of plugrush ads around them and set up spam networks.

Markul 01-11-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19419087)
Je ne sus pas américain et je suis très capable de payer ses frais de déplacement.

Tell you what...
Just give me his name and what nation he is located in. I will research his contact information on my own. Because I am really interested in being educated on how I have lost so much money during the last 40 years because of legal problems, fees, etc.

I don't speak French, I'm Danish ;) But I have visited your country and am actually looking at some tickets to go to Paris with the misses for easter.

Let's take this over ICQ from now on.

JosephFM 01-11-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19419578)
I heard Plugrush bloggers have been booted from Tumblr. Any truth to that? Related?

Google "tumblr plugrush" and you will see a lot of post on other boards about it. But I'm not sure, since I came across a tumbrl today and it had plugrush ads (maybe there's a way around the ban).

Markul 01-11-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by famous (Post 19419703)
why does anyone need to report anything to plugrush? Does plugrush not have tracking that tells them what urls traffic is being sent from? So why not just check the logs on whos sending you traffic and delete them that way? Seems as if plugrush really wanted to stop them this would be the better way.

Plugrush has over 10.000 webmasters using their system (no idea how many are active though) and if each has only 10 websites with their widgets, that's 100.000 thousand sites that need to be manually checked.

Think about it. They'd need to have several full time employees doing that to keep up and they need to re-check sites because you never know if people decide to "join the dark side". They would never get to the end before they need to start over.

It's just not going to happen - or at least I hope it's not - because the payroll costs would have to come out of their publishers/advertisers pockets and I'm one of them.

Why don't Google just check all the sites they index for infringing content? If you really wanted to do something about this problem, why not start with the biggest contributor to piracy? If all infringing sites was de-listed from Google that would more or less solve the bulk of the problem.

notinmybackyard 01-11-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19419784)

Why don't Google just check all the sites they index for infringing content? If you really wanted to do something about this problem, why not start with the biggest contributor to piracy? If all infringing sites was de-listed from Google that would more or less solve the bulk of the problem.

I agree.. Google is the biggest theft operation on the planent.

To that you should follow up on the some of the recent events.

Google got its ass kicked by Brazil's press agency.
The reasons cited,
Google kills sales... google search gets by defacto the content for free... google deals with pirates. And all legal venus did NOT hold that google was incapable of verifying. As one member of the legal negotiating team said, "you do not put in place a system you can not control." (( It is where I got the expression))

Google is going through the exact same thing with the french press. The french president has even had to step in threaten google. Again the words, "Get control" were reportedly used by the french president in a meeting.

Google had to pay the Belgium press 6$ million copyright fee. Furthermore google threaten to delist the Belgium press agencies and the Belgium press responded "Suits us just fine." Also this time when google used that they *can not verify* excuse, the response was.... "too bad for Google"."

For the americains...
Google had pay $500 million to the Justice Department and admitted that the company’s advertising service helped online pharmacies sell prescription drugs illegally. Again no one was accepting the excuse that they can not verify.

Legitimate business always has been and always will be about control. Control of your assets, who you do business with, your expenditures, etc. No one becomes succesful by being a hack.

Therefore anyone claiming they can not control a certain is aspect of their operation is obviously just looking the other way because it benefits them......



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