CalOSHA using 2257 to violate producers on condoms and permits ATK visited Yesterday
 

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Ok I have a lot of people telling me about this one.

Seems ATK got visited by OSHA yesterday and OSHA was ready?They had a subpoena for months of 2257 records. They weren?t inspecting those records for 2257 purposes but to ascertain when a shoot occurred and if it violated the statewide OSHA condom rules, AND to prove they didn?t pull the required permits.

And ATK isn?t the only ones, I have been hearing for a couple of weeks that Evil Angel got a visit as well. In Evils Case They are just a middleman so no idea how that one turned out but my gut tells me they want shoot dates, and producers names and addresses from Evil?s 2257 records.

Porners need to pay CLOSE attention to this, You can pretty well bet it?s why Vivid isn?t shooting anything new. Say what you want about Steve Hirsch but the guy is smart when it comes to that.

I?m hearing Digital Playground is high on OSHAs list to.

I thought the statewide condom law died? That it's just LA county and Simi Valley?
I have always hated dealing with Cal Osha, bunch of cunts

The state wide condom law has been around for years...

It's California Code of Regulation section 5193... Bloodborne Pathogens... Or as Mark Kernes refers to it "the hazmat suit law."

That's the basis for much of CalOSHAs fines of all of the porn production companies...

And as far as asking for 2257 records, CalOSHA has always done that. That's really nothing new. They have always tried to get to the performers as possible witnesses against the production companies.

It also gives them a way to get to the agents as well.

What Pornlaw said....NEVER believe what Diane Duke tells you.

also the agents are licensed under the same agency cal OSHA operates under

They arent going after performers on these 2257 inspections its to prove dates of production, whether or not condoms were used and wether a permit was gotten....they dont need a performer to testify Im told

Well I think all production companies should start sending used condoms to Cal OSHA to prove they are operating legally! LOL

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

California Supreme court just made it easier to get a carry permit
 

Whoops, wrong place, LOL

A couple of years ago the Labor Commish subpoenaed the records of all the licensed and bonded agents. Some put up a fight but eventually they folded and handed over the records.

If the DIR ( Depart of Industrial Relations) wanted the agents' records they would just subpoena then again. They don't need to use CalOSHA to get them.

Agree and I get what yer saying but OSHA is using the 2257 info to cross reference condom compliance and permits. They arent using it to check performers IDs or whatever its all about proving a production was shot on a particular date without condoms in other words OSHA is using it as evidence for OSHA violations.

One of those unintended consequences i reckon...Im wondering if that could be construed as incriminating ones self but my gut tells me no because it isnt a criminal charge its an OSHA fine...

Should keep you legal Beagles arguing for a while...BTW Michael...hope yer well man.

it's a pretty interesting issue... 'if sex is so dangerous' we need government regulations and enforcements... how long until we have 'government protection' at home?

it's not like there isn't a legal case history to back this up now is there... think heroin, weed in most places, cocaine... the government has stepped in with laws and regulations to 'protect us' from harm..... even at home.

Mike if you weren't so busy running your personal agenda against the industry, you might see this :2 cents:

2257 records have no relationship to 'type' of production.. solo shoots have 2257 records....2257 records do NOT list agencies either..... so what is the basis for collection of 2257 release? or model releases either for that matter... neither have shoot specifics... :2 cents:

So when is all porn production in LA officially moving to Las Vegas so we can end all this nonsense and bullshit?

Measure B does extend all the way into the home. The way the law is written even monogamous married couples that engage in sex on webcam for profit MUST wear a condom and use barrier protection when they are performing. It makes no exceptions.

This is the slippery slope of Measure B and AHF's agenda that no one is discussing.

AHF has already filed complaints in FL in regards to porn production not using condoms. There is little reason to believe they wont follow the industry to LV.

And quite actually, Nevada already has regs requiring condoms for prostitutes in brothels and Sheriff's cards for dancers in LV, its not hard to imagine the state would regulate porn production as well.

This isnt just a Cali issue.

measure B is not related to osha in any way. osha is state, measure b is la county :2 cents:

when porn moves to TJ everyone will be much safer ::winkwink:

What authority does OSHA have to demand 2257 records?

Your comment though was along the lines of "how long until government extends into the home" and he pointed out where it did. :2 cents:

okay, osha can't stop by on measure B though

California loves to fuck itself in the ass.

Just because i report somethong you dont like doesnt mean I have an "agenda" against the biz...I love the biz and most of the people in it and keepping quiet about this would be doing them a great disservice.

Do we need to clean out some of the cockroaches...hell yes.

One down...(Fabian) far too many to go...

Exactly what I was thinking. Get the fuck out of LA guys. Housing, office space, cost of living is VERY affordable here.
There are supporting staff such as makeup artists, etc and if the industry moves here, models will follow. Its a no brainer.

Dont mean to rain on the parade here but that didnt work out so well for Naughty America and you are delusional if you think OSHA wouldn't follow porners wherever they go.

Its CAL osha that is causing issues correct?
There is no law in Nevada prohibiting condom use in porn.

Las Vegas doesn't have legal weed.

It is one of the essentials of the Goldilocks Conditions needing to be met for porn production to flourish.

No but there's a law requiring condoms for the brothels. Do you think NV is going to give porn producers a pass on that one ? Or do you think that Dennis Hof and the other brothel owners arent going to lobby against bareback porn ?

CalOSHA can stop by for any reason they want... They have the right to inspect work sites.

Who knows pornlaw, but prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas or Reno, only in areas outside Clark and Washoe county, so it doesnt even affect the brothels.

They really dont have any basis for it. And I have objected to their requests for such records in past. I would make them fight for it.

imagine all the privacy lawsuits from turning over 2257 or model releases :2 cents:

If you're Dennis Hof and you've been trying for years to establish legal brothels in Las Vegas but every year you get shut down by the NV legislature and now porn production moves into Las Vegas - would you just sit by and watch that happen ?

To many people - porn production is nothing more than legalize prostitution - so if Im Dennis Hof, Im pushing harder than ever for Las Vegas's first legal brothel. And if I cant have that then Im going to push for porn production to be regulated no different than a brothel.

You dont think 500+ performers living in Vegas full time is going to effect Dennis Hof's business that is an hour drive outside of Vegas ? Why drive an hour for a condom brothel girl when I can have a pornstar in Vegas bareback for the same price ??? Thats how it effects his business...

yup, exactly like the guy that cuts his daughters clit off so she can have a better life :2 cents:

That's my question. Those are fed files, only for the Attorney General or his designee.

What happened with Naughty America?

Very much looking forward to seeing this answered publicly. Curious if it's the same things I've been told by some of those involved....

Some day someone needs to show these states how much this can cost them by taking these laws too far.

So share, what have you heard?

Why would you care?..

Out of respect for Andreas, I'm going to decline to answer that. If somebody else want to air that laundry, it's on them.