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Dvae 06-21-2014 03:55 AM

Bad news, I'm being audited by the IRS
 
The good news is my Hard Drive crashed. I have no record of anything.

Markul 06-21-2014 03:59 AM

I am not sure "having no record of anything" is a good thing when it comes to the IRS, but maybe the IRS in your country are more forgiving than the ones in mine heh.

Good luck!

Grapesoda 06-21-2014 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20131984)
The good news is my Hard Drive crashed. I have no record of anything.

not a big deal, just always do your taxes planning on an audit

Harmon 06-21-2014 04:04 AM

IRS doesn't give a fuck. Your guilty until you prove your innocence. If you don't have any documents to back up your deductions, you're fucked. They'll come up with their own verdict and sentence and assfuck you like a bitch.

wehateporn 06-21-2014 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20131984)
The good news is my Hard Drive crashed. I have no record of anything.

Did your bank use your hard drive to host their online banking operation?

MrBottomTooth 06-21-2014 04:08 AM

A friend had that happen. He lost most of his records when his basement flooded. The cra were happy to disallow any expenses he couldn't provide receipts or verification for. He ended up owing over 100k and lost almost everything and had to sell his house. He was an idiot anyway, but they sure didnt give him any breaks.

Dvae 06-21-2014 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20131987)
I am not sure "having no record of anything" is a good thing when it comes to the IRS, but maybe the IRS in your country are more forgiving than the ones in mine heh.

Good luck!

Don't need luck. Just a crashed hard drive.
And in my country like yours are tough as nails they lock you up and throw away the key.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20131990)
not a big deal, just always do your taxes planning on an audit

No point in doing taxes hard drive is going to crash anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20131993)
IRS doesn't give a fuck. Your guilty until you prove your innocence. If you don't have any documents to back up your deductions, you're fucked. They'll come up with their own verdict and sentence and assfuck you like a bitch.

Not guilty until proven innocent in this case. I know how the system works!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20131994)
Did your bank use your hard drive to host their online banking operation?

This has nothing to do with my bank.

MrBottomTooth 06-21-2014 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20131994)
Did your bank use your hard drive to host their online banking operation?

A bank statement isnt enough proof for most items. If I show I was spending $300 a month at bestbuy it could be for toner and paper for my business, or maybe i'm just buying a shitload of video games.

weewilly 06-21-2014 04:32 AM

What they will do is double your income and dis allow any expenses that you dont have receipts for. Under tax law they are right and you have to prove your claims. Having no records is going to make this a long night mare. Best of luck.
Give you an idea how fucked up our tax system is
Your 1 st appeal will go to the agents supervisor
2nd will go to a regional administrative
3rd will go to the Irs tax court
4th appeal will finally go to a non Irs federal judge.
Figure 20000-40000 dollars for lawyer fees
You know what really sucks is your hard drive crashed and you have no records.
Best of luck to ya

Dvae 06-21-2014 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weewilly (Post 20132011)
What they will do is double your income and dis allow any expenses that you dont have receipts for. Under tax law they are right and you have to prove your claims. Having no records is going to make this a long night mare. Best of luck.
Give you an idea how fucked up our tax system is
Your 1 st appeal will go to the agents supervisor
2nd will go to a regional administrative
3rd will go to the Irs tax court
4th appeal will finally go to a non Irs federal judge.
Figure 20000-40000 dollars for lawyer fees
You know what really sucks is your hard drive crashed and you have no records.
Best of luck to ya

You don't understand, my hard drive crashed end of story, they will do nothing to me trust me.

PornDude 06-21-2014 04:46 AM

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Grapesoda 06-21-2014 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132018)
You don't understand, my hard drive crashed end of story, they will do nothing to me trust me.

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

mineistaken 06-21-2014 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20131994)
Did your bank use your hard drive to host their online banking operation?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mineistaken 06-21-2014 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weewilly (Post 20132011)
What they will do is double your income and dis allow any expenses that you dont have receipts for.

Disallowing is common sense but what's up with doubling your income?

georgeyw 06-21-2014 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132018)
You don't understand, my hard drive crashed end of story, they will do nothing to me trust me.

They will penetrate you without grease.... :2 cents:

eroticfem 06-21-2014 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132018)
You don't understand, my hard drive crashed end of story, they will do nothing to me trust me.

If you have spent more money than you have earned they might do a lot to you!

Dvae 06-21-2014 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticfem (Post 20132036)
If you have spent more money than you have earned they might do a lot to you!

I know my rights. I'll plead the fifth.
Nothing will happen to me. It's business as usual.

Markul 06-21-2014 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132018)
You don't understand, my hard drive crashed end of story, they will do nothing to me trust me.

I truly hope that you are right, but imagine if it is true that the tax auditors would trust people that had no data to backup their claims... well every single company in your country would experience data loss right before being audited.

just a punk 06-21-2014 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20131984)
Bad news, I'm being audited by the IRS

And what's bad with that? If you pay taxes, you should not be worried. IMHO.

Dvae 06-21-2014 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20132057)
And what's bad with that? If you pay taxes, you should not be worried. IMHO.

Of course I pay taxes I just can't prove how much. But I'm not at all worried. The hard drive crash excuse works pretty well for some people so why not me.

tony286 06-21-2014 05:45 AM

He is making a point about lost emails that meant nothing. And in that case the irs was doing its job, its not a rubber stamp you are tax exempt. Also if they really believed in what they were doing, they didn't need a tax exempt status to do what they wanted to do.

Dvae 06-21-2014 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20132042)
I truly hope that you are right, but imagine if it is true that the tax auditors would trust people that had no data to backup their claims

My point exactly.

Dvae 06-21-2014 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20132059)
He is making a point about lost emails that meant nothing. And in that case the irs was doing its job, its not a rubber stamp you are tax exempt. Also if they really believed in what they were doing, they didn't need a tax exempt status to do what they wanted to do.

You have to admit Tony this is quite convenient. There's no IT professional worth his salt that could not retrieve those emails. It just is not possible that they can't be retrieved. Its all a big lie!
So why can't I use that excuse.

Phoenix 06-21-2014 05:55 AM

i was audited before..i found them to be fair and just.
try to use your creditcard for most things instead of cash.
it keeps a record for you automatically.

tony286 06-21-2014 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132067)
You have to admit Tony this is quite convenient. There's no IT professional worth his salt that could not retrieve those emails. It just is not possible that they can't be retrieved. Its all a big lie!
So why can't I use that excuse.

You cant say gov doesnt work, they are fucked up,ineffective and be surprised they lost emails. The only group that actually lost their tax status was a big liberal group, they look at as many libs as tea party but the rigthies need a excuse to waste our tax dollars so they only focused on tea party groups that were looked at.
I dont know about you but if a group wants tax free status I want the irs to go way up their ass to see if they deserve it.

just a punk 06-21-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132058)
Of course I pay taxes I just can't prove how much. But I'm not at all worried. The hard drive crash excuse works pretty well for some people so why not me.

Ah, I see now.

MrBottomTooth 06-21-2014 06:35 AM

I guess I need to watch the news more.

Grapesoda 06-21-2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132041)
I know my rights. I'll plead the fifth.
Nothing will happen to me. It's business as usual.

I think you need a reality check.... the IRS has more power and authority than the federal government and you are guilty until proven innocent, case in point... the IRS can drain your bank account without any notice, without even a judge involved...no other agency can do that :2 cents:

Grapesoda 06-21-2014 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20132073)
i was audited before..i found them to be fair and just.
try to use your creditcard for most things instead of cash.
it keeps a record for you automatically.

same here seldom use cash for anything, my income is direct wire so it's all on the books

blackmonsters 06-21-2014 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20131994)
Did your bank use your hard drive to host their online banking operation?

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 06-21-2014 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20132073)
i was audited before..i found them to be fair and just.
try to use your creditcard for most things instead of cash.
it keeps a record for you automatically.

This^
If you pay cash and have no receipts you're totally fucked ...

Dvae 06-21-2014 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20132078)
You cant say gov doesnt work, they are fucked up,ineffective and be surprised they lost emails. The only group that actually lost their tax status was a big liberal group, they look at as many libs as tea party but the rigthies need a excuse to waste our tax dollars so they only focused on tea party groups that were looked at.
I dont know about you but if a group wants tax free status I want the irs to go way up their ass to see if they deserve it.

Yes I can say government doesn't work? Because it doesn't.

Care to name the big liberal group that lost their tax status?

I want everybody to be examined too but let's get on with it and not drag your feet and never examine their eligibility which is what appears is going on here.

Dvae 06-21-2014 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20132109)
I think you need a reality check.... the IRS has more power and authority than the federal government and you are guilty until proven innocent, case in point... the IRS can drain your bank account without any notice, without even a judge involved...no other agency can do that :2 cents:

Only people that need a reality check is big government types who think they're above the law.

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20132114)
This^
If you pay cash and have no receipts you're totally fucked ...

If you can't prove it, it didn't happen. Isn't that the way it works?

I go before the IRS auditor:

I plead the fifth.
My documents are subpoenaed and I ignore it. I say I didn't understand the request I'll bring them next time.
My hard drive crashes and solves all my problems.

Then I ask the auditor what he's going to do to me and he says nothing.

iwantchixx 06-21-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20131993)
If you don't have any documents to back up your deductions, you're fucked. They'll come up with their own verdict


ding ding ding

bxy 06-21-2014 02:35 PM

They gave me a refund after mine, but what a nightmare. Let me Strongly Recommend: "Get a Tax Attorney"

Due 06-21-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132135)
Only people that need a reality check is big government types who think they're above the law.



If you can't prove it, it didn't happen. Isn't that the way it works?

I go before the IRS auditor:

I plead the fifth.
My documents are subpoenaed and I ignore it. I say I didn't understand the request I'll bring them next time.
My hard drive crashes and solves all my problems.

Then I ask the auditor what he's going to do to me and he says nothing.

Good luck with that plan! I had my house raided by the IRS, they took everything with them including hard drives, computers, folders etc.
2 years later they started writing to me I could pickup my things ad they where done with it.
If they think you are hiding something they will take what they need.

wehateporn 06-21-2014 03:50 PM

Ahh, I see!

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-inspector-...--finance.html

milambur 06-21-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20132135)
Only people that need a reality check is big government types who think they're above the law.

If you can't prove it, it didn't happen. Isn't that the way it works?

I go before the IRS auditor:

I plead the fifth.
My documents are subpoenaed and I ignore it. I say I didn't understand the request I'll bring them next time.
My hard drive crashes and solves all my problems.

Then I ask the auditor what he's going to do to me and he says nothing.

I don't know about the US tax system, but here in Sweden they would make an educated guess of your income based on expected living cost, bank statements, traceable spending and investments. If your declared income was less than their estimate they would tax the difference with about 50% and hit you with an additional 30% punitive fee for a total of about 80% in fees and taxes. If you appeal you would have to prove why you have or spent more money than you declared.
I had an audit a couple of years ago, but they were really nice an said my papers where in good order. Only thing they complained about was that I was spending too much money on monitors.....

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Big Boss 06-22-2014 01:38 PM

I am also being audited by my governments IRS right now (currently waiting to go to court). And let me tell you.....they are not kind. Trust me, they will try and fuck you without lube in the ass!

I have records of every single transaction and can explain everything but they don't listen. They make up bullshit excuses and ignores what me and my tax attorney are writing them.

My company accounts got closed down by the banks because off an ongoing police investigation against one of my companies. And as banks in Sweden no longer handles physical cash (I know it's fucked up) I had no other choice then to transfer the money to my personal accounts. According to the IRS I have to pay income tax and payroll tax for it since they consider it salary. Even though me and my attorney explained the situation to them. They simply don't give a fuck!

I wish you all the best and hope that you make it but in my experience that I'm in right now is that it won't be easy fighting those cunts of. Like a previous poster said, they have the power to do almost ANYTHING to you! Freeze your bank accounts, take your house, your car or whatever. It is up to YOU to prove you are not guilty. No other authority can do that!

Like I've always said. The IRS are the worst of ALL authorities! They show no mercy. Period.

Anyways, good luck to you. I hope it all works out!

/Big Boss


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