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crockett 07-07-2014 05:07 PM

What has the Right gotten Right?
 
It's no secret I'm not a fan of the Republican Party, however I'm really at a loss to figure out anything recently they have gotten right. There was all the fear mongering about Obamacare with death panels, being a job killer and would cause the anti Christ to rise. None of their warnings came true, today more people are insured, the insurance on average is cheaper and Obamacare has created over a million jobs just in the health industry due to more demand. Not even counting the insurance industry.

Speaking of jobs and even the economy. Despite the rights best efforts to destroy the economy with sequesters and being budget nazis the economy is doing just fine and jobs are coming back.

Then there is the whole social aspect of things.. They are pro drug war, meanwhile states that have legalized pot are doing just great.

They are anti sex ed and so on.. In Texas they stopped teaching sex ed in schools and stopped giving teens free access to birth control and teen pregnancies skyrocketed. Meanwhile in Colorado just the opposite occurred, they started giving out free birth control to teens and teen pregnancies dropped 40%.

Then there is the can of worms about global warming.. They ignore all science on the subject and don't have any data to back up their claims but still they think they are right.

Then we have green energy.. They hang on to coal like it's the life blood of the world, meanwhile the solar industry already employes more people than the coal industry and it's growing unlike coal.

Hell they can't even get smaller govt or less taxes right. The last 3 republican presidents have expanded the govt and had record spending.

Honestly what have they actually done right?

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 05:23 PM

wow.

That's a whole lot of stupid all in one viewing.

crockett 07-07-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150832)
wow.

That's a whole lot of stupid all in one viewing.

I take your reply as you can't figure out what they got right either.. LoL

Joshua G 07-07-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150825)
Honestly what have they actually done right?

if you were wealthy the answer would be abundantly clear.

:2 cents:

L-Pink 07-07-2014 05:38 PM

wow ???? :1orglaugh

crockett 07-07-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20150847)
if you were wealthy the answer would be abundantly clear.

:2 cents:

So basically the only thing is taxes for rich people? Meanwhile they try their hardest to destroy this country, but it's all ok because you pay less taxes?

crockett 07-07-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20150848)
wow ???? :1orglaugh

Anything to add other than taxes for rich people, or are you just as stumped as I am?

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150843)
I take your reply as you can't figure out what they got right either.. LoL

I'm not going to sit and defend the RINO Repubs, because they are nothing more than weasels on the other side of the same coin. That said....

1. Obamacare

Are you serious? This fiasco has already cost us a BILLION dollars. The only ones "benefitting" from it are the insurance companies and the Medicaid leeches. Unless you consider having your insurance cancelled and being forced to buy far more expensive insurance, for less value as beneficial. Jobs have already been lost to this monster, and just wait until the mandates kick in.

As if this wasn't already UN-affordable enough, the penalty is really going to inspire the idiots once they get hit with that. Yet amazingly, you seem to think paying ridiculous premiums every month, only to be followed by an even more ridiculous deductible before you see ANY benefit whatsoever is somehow a good thing. "Well, I don't want to pay for people without insurance!" Guess who is STILL paying for them now that they have Obamacare?! You. There is no free lunch.

And speaking of lunch, now we are seeing new "Healthcare surcharges" added to the bill, and this will only expand, in order to cover the cost of providing this crap to employees. Yes Virginia... you really are paying for this. In more ways than one.

But wait.... let's not forget that HIPPA is essentially gone now, and the doctors operating under Obamacare are effectively government stooges now. What profound "progress".

2. Jobs & The Economy

"The economy is doing just fine."
What fucking planet do you live on? The economy is in the toilet, and it ain't ever coming back. Dear Leader has run up the debt to over $18 trillion. How the fuck do you think that is EVER going to be paid back? The rest of the world is not-so-silently dropping the dollar, Wall St. is so insanely inflated it's laughable, the housing market is entirely propped up by the banks to appear solvent while millions of homes sit empty and rot, Detroit looks worse than Iraq, manufacturing in the U.S. is non-existent, college degree holders are bussing tables at fucking Applebees.... seriously, do you live under a rock?

3. Drug War

Defending the "war on drugs" is stupid. It's a cash cow, nothing more.
With that in mind... putting that shit in your body on a regular basis is not the brightest idea. Do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't affect me.

4. Sex Ed

All I have to say on this is, where are the fucking parents? It's not the government's job to educate your kids. It's yours.

5. Global Warming

You've got to be kidding me. Your global warming messiah has gotten rich off of idiots buying into this hoax. The Antarctica ice shelf has RECORD ice this year. Translation: More than EVER before. "Global Warming" is a fucking tool of Agenda 21. Seems you've got more reading to do.

6. "Green Energy"

There's nothing wrong with solar, except that it is not viable as a main source of energy for 7 billion people. Look at the space required to power ONE building, on a part-time / backup system basis. The whole "green energy" movement is nothing more than a by-product of the global warming tards and a FANTASY.

On your wrap-up...

"Hell they can't even get smaller govt or less taxes right. The last 3 republican presidents have expanded the govt and had record spending."

Really? Dear Leader Big O has spent more than ALL other presidents COMBINED. Smaller government? Big O has usurped power, ignores Congress, rules by decree and executive order... (that pen has got to be close to running out of ink by now).... talks about "overriding" the Supreme Court, has lied since before Day 1 and continues to do so, expanded the police state, drone kills people over breakfast including American citizens, .... and you are hung up on "republicans".

Please unplug from the television. It is rotting your mind.

Dvae 07-07-2014 06:22 PM

Are you off your meds again crockett?

crockett 07-07-2014 06:32 PM

I can't reply to each point at the moment, but I'll,hit 2, 5 & 6 real quick.

.2) when I said the economy is going fine, I was meaning the recovery. No I didn't actually word it that way, but I meant the recovery was happening despite actions from the right that slowed it down. The sequester cost us billions and cost a lot of jobs as did the denial of budget tactics that essentially got the right less than what they could of had right at the start.

.5) the ice in Antarctica that you claim is more than ever is typical right wing bull shit, every year in the winter new ice is created, but it's thin ice that melts away in the summer. The important ice is the thick stuff and that is melting away at record pace. It's very easy to learn what the difference is in fresh new ice (ie thin ice) vs the stuff that has been there for thousands of years.

If you actually care, educate yourself as you pretty much just repeated a disproven right wing talking point.

.6) green energy is very real and countries that are committed to it are starting to reap the benefits. Queensland and Australia actually hit negative territory in the middle of the day, when demand is at it's highest due to solar. http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/sola...e-of-day-63767

You can also read this article about Queensland and how they expect the coal industry will be dead by 2040.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...CMP=fb_gu[

L-Pink 07-07-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150855)
Anything to add other than taxes for rich people, or are you just as stumped as I am?

Nope, just amazed at your obsessive need to hate the Republican party. It's like a drug for you.

crockett 07-07-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20150902)
Nope, just amazed at your obsessive need to hate the Republican party. It's like a drug for you.

Not really, I just see the same tired topics by the same right wingers on here daily about how the world is going to end because of Obama. I see you guys chanting on and on about the same things with very little to no facts or evidence to back you up. So I figured I'd ask what the right has actually done right.

Given the fact that not a single one of you has actually shown a single thing except "taxes for the rich" I guess I'm right in my assumption that the right and it's followers are just full of hot air.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150900)
I can't reply to each point at the moment, but I'll,hit 2, 5 & 6 real quick.

.2) when I said the economy is going fine, I was meaning the recovery. No I didn't actually word it that way, but I meant the recovery was happening despite actions from the right that slowed it down. The sequester cost us billions and cost a lot of jobs as did the denial of budget tactics that essentially got the right less than what they could of had right at the start.

There is no "recovery". You are clinging to an illusion.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150900)
.5) the ice in Antarctica that you claim is more than ever is typical right wing bull shit, every year in the winter new ice is created, but it's thin ice that melts away in the summer. The important ice is the thick stuff and that is melting away at record pace. It's very easy to learn what the difference is in fresh new ice (ie thin ice) vs the stuff that has been there for thousands of years.

In the 70s, all the tards were running around with their hair on fire claiming we were entering a "new ice age!!!" When that didn't pan out, it was changed to "Global Warming". Today, everything under the sun is blamed on global warming (read: humans). Got a flat tire? Pavement is too hot because of global warming. It's a LIE. You have zero proof of global warming that hasn't already been discredited. I bet you think recycling works too.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150900)

.6) green energy is very real and countries that are committed to it are starting to reap the benefits. Queensland and Australia actually hit negative territory in the middle of the day, when demand is at it's highest due to solar. http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/sola...e-of-day-63767

You can also read this article about Queensland and how they expect the coal industry will be dead by 2040.

Read this article if you think solar is BS. Honestly your response on this issue is very uneducated. I used solar everyday, it's not a by product of anything but reality.

It really doesn't matter how much you cheerlead for it. It's not viable for 7 billion people. The ROI is not there, and most can't afford that shit, or live in places where it's not an option. I'm not talking about Fuckistania, I'm talking about everywhere, including apartments in the good ol' USA. It's a toy for the rich and the true-believers.

Dvae 07-07-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150900)
I can't reply to each point at the moment, but I'll,hit 2, 5 & 6 real quick.

.5) the ice in Antarctica that you claim is more than ever is typical right wing bull shit, every year in the winter new ice is created, but it's thin ice that melts away in the summer. The important ice is the thick stuff and that is melting away at record pace. It's very easy to learn what the difference is in fresh new ice (ie thin ice) vs the stuff that has been there for thousands of years.

You have to be retarded to not see this.
http://oneherald.com.au/second-ship-...antarctic-ice/

-January 2014
The Chinese icebreaker Xue Long remains stuck in sea ice in Watt Bay, Antarctica, near the beset vessel Akademik Shokalskiy. Photo: Colin Cosier
Chinese polar resupply ship Xue Long has flagged for the first time that it may need help, after spending days among Antarctic pack ice after coming to the aid of private expedition ship Akademik Shokalskiy.
The 15,000-tonne Xue Long notified the Australian Maritime Safety Authority on Friday afternoon that it had concerns about its ability to move through heavy ice.

http://images.smh.com.au/2014/01/03/...g1-620x349.jpg

crockett 07-07-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20150913)
You have to be retarded to not see this.
http://oneherald.com.au/second-ship-...antarctic-ice/

-January 2014
The Chinese icebreaker Xue Long remains stuck in sea ice in Watt Bay, Antarctica, near the beset vessel Akademik Shokalskiy. Photo: Colin Cosier
Chinese polar resupply ship Xue Long has flagged for the first time that it may need help, after spending days among Antarctic pack ice after coming to the aid of private expedition ship Akademik Shokalskiy.
The 15,000-tonne Xue Long notified the Australian Maritime Safety Authority on Friday afternoon that it had concerns about its ability to move through heavy ice.

http://images.smh.com.au/2014/01/03/...g1-620x349.jpg

So because a ship got stuck in ice, it means the ice sheets aren't melting? Is that what you are trying to say?

crockett 07-07-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150911)
There is no "recovery". You are clinging to an illusion.



In the 70s, all the tards were running around with their hair on fire claiming we were entering a "new ice age!!!" When that didn't pan out, it was changed to "Global Warming". Today, everything under the sun is blamed on global warming (read: humans). Got a flat tire? Pavement is too hot because of global warming. It's a LIE. You have zero proof of global warming that hasn't already been discredited. I bet you think recycling works too.



It really doesn't matter how much you cheerlead for it. It's not viable for 7 billion people. The ROI is not there, and most can't afford that shit, or live in places where it's not an option. I'm not talking about Fuckistania, I'm talking about everywhere, including apartments in the good ol' USA. It's a toy for the rich and the true-believers.

It's viable for most of this country. And it's not just roof top solar, but actual solar farms.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150918)
It's viable for most of this country. And it's not just roof top solar, but actual solar farms.

In 2013, the United States generated about 4,058 billion kilowatthours of electricity. About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuel (coal, natural gas, and petroleum), with 39% attributed from coal.

In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation were

Coal 39%
Natural Gas 27%
Nuclear 19%
Hydropower 7%
Other Renewable 6%
Biomass 1.48%
Geothermal 0.41%
Solar 0.23%
Wind 4.13%
Petroleum 1%
Other Gases < 1%

Solar: 0.23% Less than 1/4 of 1 percent.

crockett 07-07-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150925)
In 2013, the United States generated about 4,058 billion kilowatthours of electricity. About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuel (coal, natural gas, and petroleum), with 39% attributed from coal.

In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation were

Coal 39%
Natural Gas 27%
Nuclear 19%
Hydropower 7%
Other Renewable 6%
Biomass 1.48%
Geothermal 0.41%
Solar 0.23%
Wind 4.13%
Petroleum 1%
Other Gases < 1%

Solar: 0.23% Less than 1/4 of 1 percent.

Solar is just now taking off it. The very first nuclear power plant didn't instantly create the most power. Solar is something that will take over in the next 20 or 30 years. It's not quite as simple as flipping a light switch, you should have enough brains to figure that out. The investments are being made now, hence the reason I showed the example of Queensland which is already far ahead of us.

L-Pink 07-07-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150925)
In 2013, the United States generated about 4,058 billion kilowatthours of electricity. About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuel (coal, natural gas, and petroleum), with 39% attributed from coal.

In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation were

Coal 39%
Natural Gas 27%
Nuclear 19%
Hydropower 7%
Other Renewable 6%
Biomass 1.48%
Geothermal 0.41%
Solar 0.23%
Wind 4.13%
Petroleum 1%
Other Gases < 1%

Solar: 0.23% Less than 1/4 of 1 percent.


Not to mention the failure of numerous solar companies jumping on government "green energy" tax payer funded projects that went broke.


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Dvae 07-07-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150916)
So because a ship got stuck in ice, it means the ice sheets aren't melting? Is that what you are trying to say?

You have to admit theres some real juicy irony here, these morons go to the South Pole to look for ice, guess what they found it. Not one, not two but three ships get stuck in the ice.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150928)
Solar is just now taking off it. The very first nuclear power plant didn't instantly create the most power. Solar is something that will take over in the next 20 or 30 years. It's not quite as simple as flipping a light switch, you should have enough brains to figure that out. The investments are being made now, hence the reason I showed the example of Queensland which is already far ahead of us.

You mean like Solyndra?

crockett 07-07-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20150929)
Not to mention the failure of numerous solar companies jumping on government "green energy" tax payer funded projects that went broke.


.

It's not solar energy production companies that have gone out of business, it's solar manufacturing companies that build panels. They simply can't compete with China's cheap prices. US and other countries have created the technology and China steals it then floods the market with cheap panels.

That has nothing to do with solar power it's self being viable or not. The energy production side of solar is a rapidly growing market, but just like any other market we can't compete with prices on the manufacturing side.

L-Pink 07-07-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150942)
It's not solar energy production companies that have gone out of business, it's solar manufacturing companies that build panels. They simply can't compete with China's cheap prices. US and other countries have created the technology and China steals it then floods the market with cheap panels.

That has nothing to do with solar power it's self being viable or not. The energy production side of solar is a rapidly growing market, but just like any other market we can't compete with prices on the manufacturing side.

And our government funded them anyway? :Oh crap


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keysync 07-07-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20150947)
And our government funded them anyway? :Oh crap


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Twice :thumbsup

crockett 07-07-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150936)
You mean like Solyndra?

Solyndra was a manufacturing company, not a energy production company. Like it or not AMP, renewable is the future, and the future will drag you along kicking and screaming no matter if you like it or not. You can try to ignore it, or you can accept it.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150942)
It's not solar energy production companies that have gone out of business, it's solar manufacturing companies that build panels. They simply can't compete with China's cheap prices. US and other countries have created the technology and China steals it then floods the market with cheap panels.

That has nothing to do with solar power it's self being viable or not. The energy production side of solar is a rapidly growing market, but just like any other market we can't compete with prices on the manufacturing side.

Apparently China is interested in more than just manufacturing cheap solar panels since Harry Reid has been trying to sell off public lands in Nevada at pennies on the dollar to Chinese investors for solar farms. Feel good about your Dems selling off chunks of America?

crockett 07-07-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20150947)
And our government funded them anyway? :Oh crap


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It's funny that one failed company is the basis for you to deny the future, yet you have no complaint at the billions handed out to big oil, coal and gas in govt subsidies.

Joshua G 07-07-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150854)
So basically the only thing is taxes for rich people? Meanwhile they try their hardest to destroy this country, but it's all ok because you pay less taxes?

i would say its more of the way of republican ideaology, AKA the religion of shareholder value, free & global markets, tax cuts & regulatory rollbacks, along with a stagnant minimum wage, has created a goldi-locks economy for capitalists. From the standpoint of a "producer" or a controller of ginormous sums of cash, the past 30 years have been a golden age. ask carl icahn. :)

its all about whose eyeballs you look at the world through.

what do they do for the poor? capitalists give them walmart prices & cheap HDTVs & fast food & legal painkillers that are like heroin. republicans also support expanding gambling. all these things make the poor fat & happy.

crockett 07-07-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150956)
Apparently China is interested in more than just manufacturing cheap solar panels since Harry Reid has been trying to sell off public lands in Nevada at pennies on the dollar to Chinese investors for solar farms. Feel good about your Dems selling off chunks of America?

Do you feel good about Nevada leasing thousands of acres of BLM land to a few big oil companies for 2 million dollars, likely giving them hundreds of millions in profit in oil.. Yet they want to charge some rancher a million bucks for a few hundreds cows?

All that oil on federal lands that big oil is drilling away at, is tax payers money getting bought out from under us for peanuts in leasing fees and then resold to us by private companies for billions in profits.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20150964)
i would say its more of the way of republican ideaology, AKA the religion of shareholder value, free & global markets, tax cuts & regulatory rollbacks, along with a stagnant minimum wage, has created a goldi-locks economy for capitalists. From the standpoint of a "producer" or a controller of ginormous sums of cash, the past 30 years have been a golden age. ask carl icahn. :)

its all about whose eyeballs you look at the world through.

what do they do for the poor? capitalists give them walmart prices & cheap HDTVs & fast food & legal painkillers that are like heroin. republicans also support expanding gambling. all these things make the poor fat & happy.

Ever heard of personal responsibility? No one is forcing anyone to buy that Walmart shit, gobble painkillers and fast food, or gamble away their rent money. Sure, it's the republicans fault that people are worthless scum.

crockett 07-07-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20150964)
i would say its more of the way of republican ideaology, AKA the religion of shareholder value, free & global markets, tax cuts & regulatory rollbacks, along with a stagnant minimum wage, has created a goldi-locks economy for capitalists. From the standpoint of a "producer" or a controller of ginormous sums of cash, the past 30 years have been a golden age. ask carl icahn. :)

its all about whose eyeballs you look at the world through.

what do they do for the poor? capitalists give them walmart prices & cheap HDTVs & fast food & legal painkillers that are like heroin. republicans also support expanding gambling. all these things make the poor fat & happy.

But the case being the Republican Party doesn't practice free market. They are all about giving big subsidies to their big political donors but fight any threats at all costs. Example solar.. Is a challenger to the big energy companies hence the reason so many on the right have been programmed to think it's fantasy or bad.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150965)
Do you feel good about Nevada leasing thousands of acres of BLM land to a few big oil companies for 2 million dollars, likely giving them hundreds of millions in profit in oil.. Yet they want to charge some rancher a million bucks for a few hundreds cows?

All that oil on federal lands that big oil is drilling away at, is tax payers money getting bought out from under us for peanuts in leasing fees and then resold to us by private companies for billions in profits.

No, I'm not okay with that. I don't believe I ever indicated that I was.

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20150970)
But the case being the Republican Party doesn't practice free market. They are all about giving big subsidies to their big political donors but fight any threats at all costs. Example solar.. Is a challenger to the big energy companies hence the reason so many on the right have been programmed to think it's fantasy or bad.

I didn't say solar was "bad". I said it's not a viable source of power for the world.
0.23% energy production for the U.S. = Fantasy energy source. Certainly not a challenger of any kind.

If the U.S. is only producing .23%, do you honestly expect to see some country like Nigeria or Guatemala operating on 100% solar? Where are you going to build all the massive solar farms needed to power the US? Well, there's land in the midwest.... maybe we don't need farming. What happens when a hurricane, tornado, or hail storm destroys a solar farm? How are you going to power jets, helicopters, trains, aircraft carriers, submarines, container ships, billions of cars, factories, military machinery.... with solar panels?

Right now, I pay $25 per month to power my home. No other investment required.
When solar can power my home cheaper than what I'm paying now, then I'll get on board. Until then, no thanks.

crockett 07-07-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20150994)
I didn't say solar was "bad". I said it's not a viable source of power for the world.
0.23% energy production for the U.S. = Fantasy energy source. Certainly not a challenger of any kind.

If the U.S. is only producing .23%, do you honestly expect to see some country like Nigeria or Guatemala operating on 100% solar? Where are you going to build all the massive solar farms needed to power the US? Well, there's land in the midwest.... maybe we don't need farming. What happens when a hurricane, tornado, or hail storm destroys a solar farm? How are you going to power jets, helicopters, trains, aircraft carriers, submarines, container ships, billions of cars, factories, military machinery.... with solar panels?

Right now, I pay $25 per month to power my home. No other investment required.
When solar can power my home cheaper than what I'm paying now, then I'll get on board. Until then, no thanks.

As I stated the US has just started investing heavily in solar and most new energy production being added to the power grid is either solar or wind. You don't snap your fingers and output 30 or 40% in a year.

China the second largest power producing nation which has almost 70% of production being coal, has stopped all new coal plants and is going renewable. Even still they only have 1% of their production as renewable.

It's a long haul to recreate an entire country's power sources. It will take 20 or 30 years to get us to even 30% renewable.

As far as your $25 power bill, does that include fees? Because most people pay that much just in fees for delivery costs..

Amputate Your Head 07-07-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20151023)
As far as your $25 power bill, does that include fees? Because most people pay that much just in fees for delivery costs..

That includes everything. Last month it was less than $25.
This is purely electric. I don't have natural gas.
And I have 9 computers running in here 24 hours a day.

baddog 07-07-2014 08:14 PM

WTF has the Left accomplished but turn us into a broke welfare state?

SmutHammer 07-07-2014 08:18 PM

You have so much wrong that I couldn't even finish reading through your first post.

Maybe it's better to leave things alone that you don't have the first clue about :2 cents:

crockett 07-07-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20151037)
WTF has the Left accomplished but turn us into a broke welfare state?

So by just redirecting the question, I assume you also have no clue as to what the right has done?

crockett 07-07-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 20151041)
You have so much wrong that I couldn't even finish reading through your first post.

Maybe it's better to leave things alone that you don't have the first clue about :2 cents:

Please educate me on things the right has gotten right lately. I'm all ears, but everyone else seems to be just as clueless as myself. Perhaps you can solve this mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

SmutHammer 07-07-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20151051)
Please educate me on things the right has gotten right lately. I'm all ears, but everyone else seems to be just as clueless as myself. Perhaps you can solve this mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

I wasn't talking about right/left, that shit is for retards. I didn't make it much past your Obama care and jobs statement, Our healthcare system is now fucked. everything isn't about the poor. Fuck the lazy bums who want to collect for nothing. I'm all for helping but not for free. anyone collecting welfare should be doing something for the community even if it's just going out and picking up trash. back to the Obama care thing, they are fucking over the hospitals, Drug companies and Doctors... And the result is that all these people now paying for healthcare can't get good treatments etc.

Jobs... How about we tax big business to the point that many people close down their operations. Maybe downsize the military and make our country weaker. When I was growing up, If you were healthy and finished high school you could always have a career in the military and live a good life. Not so much an option anymore...

blah blah blah, there really is no point to even try to debate/argue over this dumb shit anymore.


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