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dyna mo 03-11-2015 09:45 AM

Obama's Russian sanctions are working! >80% of Russians now hold negative views of the USA
 
a number that has more than doubled over the past year and that is by far the highest negative rating since the center started tracking those views in 1988.

Thanks Obama.

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just a punk 03-11-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415829)
a number that has more than doubled over the past year and that is by far the highest negative rating since the center started tracking those views in 1988.

I not the one who consumes Putin's propaganda, so my thoughts about the USA haven't change (I know it's just a country like any other on the planet where you can meet good and bad people). On the other hand, the hate to the USA among average Russian is just over-scale. To explain it better, now a lot of Russians (not everybody of course!) hate the USA even more than Soviet people hate em in 80's of the past century.

dyna mo 03-11-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415838)
I not the one who consumes Putin's propaganda, so my thoughts about the USA haven't change (I know it's just a country like any other on the planet where you can meet good and bad people). On the other hand, the hate to the USA among average Russian is just over-scale. To explain it better, now a lot of Russians (not everybody of course!) hate the USA even more than Soviet people hate em in 80's of the past century.

i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really. But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

CAHEK 03-11-2015 09:56 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...50310_russ.jpg

We could someday end up with a real war.

TheSquealer 03-11-2015 09:56 AM

Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

pimpmaster9000 03-11-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415843)
i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really. But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

Category:Central Intelligence Agency operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I have no idea why anybody would blame the USA for anything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-11-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20415847)
Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

:1orglaugh

like a russian bear shitting in the woods.

Vendzilla 03-11-2015 10:00 AM

Is there anyone that likes Obama besides liberals?

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20415849)
Category:Central Intelligence Agency operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I have no idea why anybody would blame the USA for anything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what the fuck are you gibbering about?

you're still shell-shocked from US bombs.

pimpmaster9000 03-11-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415859)
what the fuck are you gibbering about?

you're still shell-shocked from US bombs.

United States and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just said that I do not know why they would blame the USA at all, it is not my fault you do not believe me when I say the USA is innocent :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

america would never do such a thing :thumbsup

Bladewire 03-11-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20415860)
America would never do such a thing :thumbsup

It's all so confusing glad you're open minded too :thumbsup

RummyBoy 03-11-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20415847)
Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

You, Dyna and whole bunch of you need to go out into the real world and get an education.

It's a big, wide world out there and there is a lot to learn......

directfiesta 03-11-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20415858)
Is there anyone that likes Obama besides liberals?

Please, don't include all liberals in the loving group ....:helpme:winkwink:

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20415860)
United States and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just said that I do not know why they would blame the USA at all, it is not my fault you do not believe me when I say the USA is innocent :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

america would never do such a thing :thumbsup


can you put this in some sort of order that makes sense? because this is just more gibberish from you.

I know you are trying to suggest I don't know about the shit USA government does but you're just making shit up about that. I haven't ruled out USA involvement.

But a murder of a prominent politician right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin isn't even aware or implicated?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're drinking that kool-aid, not me.

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20415870)
You, Dyna and whole bunch of you need to go out into the real world and get an education.

It's a big, wide world out there and there is a lot to learn......

aren't you the gfyer who claimed CHina's economy is the most important economy in the world?

just a punk 03-11-2015 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415843)
i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really.

Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal :))) Please tell me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man :)

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415843)
But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

Russian news say Chechens killed him. But you know it better of course :)

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20415847)
Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

Nobody here even knows about the US sanctions - just believe me. The people are zombied by Putin's propaganda that Obama is in charge of ruble devolution (<sarcasm> not oil prices of course </sarcasm>). Now as about your clueless statement...

the USA: U.S. Businesses Fear Russian Sanctions May Hurt Bottom Line and Economic Sanctions Would Hurt American Companies in Russia | The New Republic
the UK: BBC News - How sanctions against Russia are hitting UK businesses

Yeah, no one would even know :clown

seeandsee 03-11-2015 10:28 AM

stupid cold wars

Bladewire 03-11-2015 10:28 AM

I think that 80% of USA Americans, and such as, could not find Russia on a map.

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:28 AM

hah, yup, here's that little pearl of wisdom highlighting your education

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20340956)
China is by many metrics now the most important economy in the world.


:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 03-11-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415881)
But a murder of a prominent politician right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin isn't even aware or implicated?

in all fairness, they would have killed him years ago and not outside the kremlin...putin had no need to kill him so he didnt...

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415888)
Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal :))) Please name me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man :)



Russian news say Chechens killed him. But you know it better of course :)

certainly you are joking? YOu haven't read anything at all about sanctions and their impacts? Why not brush up a bit before thumping your chest in defiance.


and you missed the fucking part where I stated explicitly [from what i've read]? You really couldn't figure out WTF on that? Here, it means that from what I've read, it's my understanding that the anti-American sentiment currently in RUssia went up over the last few weeks due to theories floating there re: CIa involvement?

really?

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20415892)
in all fairness, they would have killed him years ago and not outside the kremlin...putin had no need to kill him so he didnt...

that's not what I am stating. That murder happened right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin was completely unaware? Netsmov was under total surveliiance and the Kremlin was completely unaware?

right?

wrong.

just a punk 03-11-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415895)
certainly you are joking? YOu haven't read anything at all about sanctions and their impacts?

You tell me please. All those US sanctions are directed against thievish Russian oligarchs. How could they affect an average citizen? Fail to explain again? :)

pimpmaster9000 03-11-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415888)
Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal :))) Please name me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man :)

man russia will run out of Iphones and Ipads :mad: and Imacs and I watches and Icrap :mad:

you better tell the russian population to start stocking up on these valuable commodities before they run out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415899)
You tell me please. All those US sanctions are directed against thievish Russian oligarchs. How could they affect an average citizen? Fail to explain again? :)

there are GOBS of research studies that all go into extreme detail on government sanctions and their horrible impact on citizens.

I was referring to that, wrongly assuming anyone who would enter into a conversations re: sanctions would, you know, actually have a fucking clue about, well, sanctions.

I apologize for my assuming you would actually know what the fuck you are talking about.

just a punk 03-11-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415896)
that's not what I am stating. That murder happened right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin was completely unaware? Netsmov was under total surveliiance and the Kremlin was completely unaware?

Netsmov was not as important and as protected person like JFK for example. Does your statement mean that White House, Capitol, FBI, CIA and the secret services where unaware of this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...49_634x488.jpg

You are just kidding, right?

just a punk 03-11-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415909)
there are GOBS of research studies

Oh please don't start again your silly defensive whoring, like you did when I asked you to provide the math calculations in another thread. You are trying to pretend an expert, but you know nothing. I have asked you a simple question: show me at least one single US sanction that affects an average citizen (me for example). And you fail again: "I don't remember that formula... It wasn't mine... There are GOBS of research studies..." That's so silly and miserable, man :disgust

The only problem for average Russians is ruble devolution which was caused by the serious drop of oil prices. I don't think that Obama is involved somehow :)

dyna mo 03-11-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415916)
Oh please don't start again your silly defensive whoring, like you did when I asked you to provide the math calculations in another thread. You are trying to pretend an expert, but you know nothing. I have asked you a simple question: show me at least one single US sanction that affects an average citizen (me for example). And you fail again: "I don't remember that formula... It wasn't mine... There are GOBS of research studies..." That's so silly and miserable, man :disgust

you really are this fucking stupid!

just a punk 03-11-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415922)
you really are this fucking stupid!

So that was your answer? Just like in another thread when you were asked for the math calculations? Ah, ok then :)

Do you understand that other people are also reading this thread and they see how stupid your miserable defensive posts are? For example I know the exact list of the US sanctions, and I can state they can't affect any average citizen here. Only because of this simple fact: they all target the Putin's friendly oligarchs only (+ their businesses of course). Your country was even unable to renounce the use of Russian rocket technologies, just because you will suck a donkey dick without them. Sanctions, my ass :1orglaugh

pornguy 03-11-2015 11:06 AM

80% of the world hates the US and they do so because they are told to.

Its the US's fault for this that or the other thing.

The Porn Nerd 03-11-2015 11:09 AM

More Russia shit?
Man the only way anybody knows or cares about that fucking country is from threads on GFY. LOL

Next!

just a punk 03-11-2015 11:10 AM

As about on how those sanctions do really affect people here. Putin's media blame all his internal economical faults on the USA. So his rating just growing here, along with the hate to Obama and the USA, because the biggest % of people (like in any country) are not smart enough to analyze the situation and they simple believe to everything the see on TV. Yes, they work for Putin's propaganda only. If oil prices will go up again ruble will strengthen too, he will say: see, I just won Obama again and we are on the rise. Believe me, it will be just like that - Putin will be winner and Obama will be a suck sucker in the eye of an average Russian citizen who watch Federal "news" on TV.

dyna mo 03-11-2015 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415926)
So that was your answer? Just like in another thread when you were asked for the math calculations? Ah, ok then :)

Do you understand that other people are also reading this thread and they see how stupid your miserable defensive posts are? For example I know the exact list of the US sanctions, and I can state they can't affect any average citizen here. Only because of this simple fact: they all target the Putin's friendly oligarchs only (+ their businesses of course). Your country was even unable to renounce the use of Russian rocket technologies, just because you will suck a donkey dick without them. Sanctions, my ass :1orglaugh

look, what makes you so completely fucking stupid is you abject failure of realizing the direct correlation between the uptick in the anti-AMerican sentiment there and the recently imposed sanctions.

you completely ignore that, instead going off on some weird fucking tangent about maths. Not to mention your complete lack of admitting your economy is taking a massive shit, your government revised their prediction for economic growth there due to the sanctions, shaving off 2 full % points, a direct translation into the pockets of millions of Russians.

conclusion: you really are that fucking stupid.

just a punk 03-11-2015 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415935)
look, what makes you so completely fucking stupid

The same silly defensive reply once again? Not funny anymore, man. Can you just answer to may question, ah? :pimp

dyna mo 03-11-2015 11:20 AM

Low oil prices and sanctions imposed on Moscow over Ukraine will send the Russian economy into recession next year, government officials said on Tuesday, a dramatic change to an earlier forecast of 1.2 percent gross domestic product growth.

Russia expects recession in 2015 as sanctions, oil prices bite | Reuters

In the first official forecast of a recession, Deputy Economy Minister Alexei Vedev said
"We now assume that sanctions will remain in place throughout the whole of 2015," Vedev told reporters. Earlier, the ministry had expected sanctions to be lifted by mid-2015. "This for us means closed capital markets for the majority of Russian companies and banks."



stand-by for a dumbfuck russian to say a recession doesn't hurt average citizens.
ahahahahahah.

dyna mo 03-11-2015 11:25 AM

What’s Been the Effect of Western Sanctions on Russia? | Putin's Way | FRONTLINE | PBS

What has been the impact on the Russian public so far?

The big impact is that the prices of buckwheat have increased as much as 70 percent. Basic food stuff has increased sharply. We?re seeing consumer panic in Russia because of the falling exchange rate. And the falling exchange rate is mainly because of the oil prices, but it?s also the financial sanctions. People are fearful of the situation and we?re seeing that the exchange rate is jumping up and down. It?s moving either way every so often by 5 percent in a day. The worst we?ve seen is it has gone down by 10 percent in a day.

just a punk 03-11-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415943)
What has been the impact on the Russian public so far?

Don't post the links, name the sanctions instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20415943)
The big impact is that the prices of buckwheat have increased as much as 70 percent. Basic food stuff has increased sharply.

I don't eat buckwheat, but other imported products have risen for about 20% or so, and that's very interesting because ruble has dropped the 2x times, while the import prices grown for about 20% only. But anyways it's all about the oil prices. What exactly sanctions are you talking about?

http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...18.01%20am.png

You must be real blind or a stupid one if you can't read the picture above. And where are your Obama's clown sanctions on that graph? Can't see a special line for 'em :)

woj 03-11-2015 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20415972)
Don't post the links, name the sanctions instead.



I don't eat buckwheat, but other imported products have risen for about 20% or so, and that's very interesting because ruble has dropped the 2x times, while the import prices grown for about 20% only. But anyways it's all about the oil prices. What exactly sanctions are you talking about?

http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...18.01%20am.png

You must be real blind or a stupid one if you can't read the picture above. And where are your Obama's clown sanctions on that graph? Can't see a special line for 'em :)

that graph actually proves dyna mo's point... in Feb sanctions started, and magically 10% gap between RUB and oil price appeared... in middle of June that gap is most clear... oil is up 5% while RUB is down 5%...

so price of oil is indeed probably biggest factor in the decline of RUB, but sanctions probably contribute another another 5-10% to the decline... :2 cents::2 cents:

just a punk 03-11-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20415981)
that graph actually proves dyna mo's point...

That graph proves that decline of ruble has started far long before the so-called US "sanctions", right when the oil prices started to drop down. Your Obama's sanctions are for the US rednecks and for ours too (so Putin could brainwash them even easier).

woj 03-11-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20416001)
That graph proves that decline of ruble has started far long before the so-called US "sanctions", right when the oil prices started to drop down. Your Obama's sanctions are for the US rednecks and for ours too (so Putin could brainwash them even easier).

beginning of the year both oil + RUB start off at 0%...
then look at march 1st.... oils is flat, RUB is down 10%... and since then RUB has been trailing oil by 5-10%... how do you explain that?

or let me rephrase, why did RUB lose 10% between jan 1st and march 1st? (clearly oil isn't the reason, because oil price is flat in that time period)


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