Originally Posted by Ezio (Post 20426087)

Hey people! I'd like to know if you guys eat carbs for breakfast. Or do you eat anything at all? It's my way of getting to know people :D

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20426147)

I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.

Originally Posted by FreeOnes Petra (Post 20426337)

Amen to this. :thumbsup

I've done keto on and off for about 3 years now, been on about 95% for the past year. While I have cheat meals on occasion, I really try to keep it on occasion. I try to keep it down under 40g of carbs because anything over makes me feel like absolute garbage. As in water retaining, joint aching garbage. People were trying to make me feel bad this past weekend for not eating some cake at a wedding this past weekend (hubby said it was very underwhelming tasting). How can I feel bad by not feeling bad? Let others eat cake, I'll take that cheese platter everyone is avoiding due to "too high fat". :winkwink:

Btw, if you're feeling like crap, up your salt intake, magnesium and potassium. I found out that you can completely avoid keto flu/feeling bad during the month adaption period by maintaining those electrolytes. /r/keto is the best subreddit ever. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20426147)

I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426350)

why are you on (and off) keto?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426381)

+ carbs are fun man! a lot of enjoyment in eating delicious carbs. mmmmmmmmm

gonna eat a toasted bagel with cream cheese bacon onions and tomato in about 2 hours.

oh and some fresh pear!

carbs are also a good excuse to be more active. want to justify some delicious carbs? go for a bike ride.

but again, proper proportions and balanced overall eating are key.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20426147)

I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20426390)

+2 on this....can pretty much eat whatever you want when youre active. 420G of carbs a day here and single digit BF %

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20426403)

that's incomplete.. that works once when you are low bodyfat to begin with, you can't exercise yourself down to single digits eating tonnes of carbs if you are overweight in the first place. believe me i've tried.. heh Once you are down you can have a lot of fun doing back loading with them though, no doubt.

Originally Posted by FreeOnes Petra (Post 20426387)

Probably the same reason most people go on and off. Get started and then you have carbs and you allow yourself to have another thing with carbs because you've already ruined the day and pretty soon that slides into a month or three.

Been pretty diligent the past 6 months or so because I'm just done feeling like crap. And apparently I'm a she bitch when carbs are in my diet and can't eat on time.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20426403)

that's incomplete.. that works once when you are low bodyfat to begin with, you can't exercise yourself down to single digits eating tonnes of carbs if you are overweight in the first place. believe me i've tried.. heh Once you are down you can have a lot of fun doing back loading with them though, no doubt.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426456)

i see. i didn't mean to imply you weren't being consistent. keto is very difficult to maintain long term. I was more curious as to what your goal is in embracing keto to begin with?

for losing fat or?

Originally Posted by FreeOnes Petra (Post 20426495)

Actually, it's not as difficult as people think it is (as long as you like cooking and baking since the regular keto fair can get pretty boring). Once you honestly figure out you're really not missing anything by not having that cake, or those fries, etc, it's much easier. :)

And my goal is simply feeling good. On a low fat, high carb diet I pack on the water weight like no man's business. About 5kg to be exact. My joints ache from the inflammation and I'm ruled by my eating schedule. If lunch is regularly at 12pm (which is lunch break during work days) and I don't get food in me by 12:15, you DO NOT want to be around me.

However, with keto (and 18/6 IF), there's no water weight, no hunger, and my blood sugar is stable. Mealtime is usually at 6pm but if it's at 7? No worries. Oh, and I actually sleep better and am way more energized. And there's absolutely no after dinner dips.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20426511)

Although if you eat red meat to fuel your ketosis, you are inflammated from the meat. You are of course inflammated from the red meat in any diet, but the more, the more you eat it.

You really do something wrong if you get serious problems from regular recommended diet, although I don't know what US government recommends, but in generally.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426512)

i see. i was on keto diet for ~1 year. after i lost weight i wanted to use it to control my diabetes (insulin injection are based on a sliding scale determined by carb intake).
it was not fun or easy for several reasons, the big one being it was very easy to go out of keto, i needed to stay under ~20g/day if i recollect right, and getting back into keto is not pleasant for me. the social restrictions are not easy either, i don't like denying things that i enjoy.

after that was when i discovered IF. it's much easier for me to not eat for ~16 hours a day and it's also a good way to control blood sugars.

i'm glad keto is working for you, different strokes and all, consciously choosing your lifestyle is the most important thing.

Originally Posted by FreeOnes Petra (Post 20426545)

Don't actually eat a whole lot of red meat. A lot of chicken and fish. And, type 2 runs in my family no matter the diet or weight. It seemed to skip me, thankfully, but I've read that people who have this run in their family tend to just do better on low carb. For me, the sweet spot it right at 35g a day.




To stay in keto, most people can get away with under 50g of carbs. I can stay in in under 50, but 35 seems to be the sweet spot for me personally. I can still go over 50 and stay in, but I just don't feel as good.

The social restrictions have been the hardest mental block and the reason for sliding off over and over. But, I've figured out it's not the end of the world. I've figured out how to just ask for a cup of whipped cream while everyone else is eating ice cream (I prefer the whipped cream since most places serve it unsweetened and honestly, ice cream is WAY too sweet these days) or a cheese platter. Drinking isn't a big deal either since I don't drink a lot. :winkwink:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426091)

i get up at 5:45 i break fast around noon and eat a proper proportion of carbs with that meal.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20426413)

Yea I get what youre saying but I cut from 12-8% relatively quickly all while eating in excess of 320-360G carbs depending on workout days. Thats a decent amount of weight to lose.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426461)

i exercised down to single digit bf eating tons of carbs

initially using p90x diet protocols, which call for A LOT of carbs to handle the intense exercise. the flab came off quickly.

then i moved to my own activity plans.

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 20426570)

I tried Keto even with added coconut oil I just couldn't get enough calories in even though I'm lean, felt like shit and fidgety, slightly anxious, like when you've had too much coffee. There has to be a balance between eating for long term health and being able to enjoy your meals and get on with your life. Since I added potatoes and rice as well as some fruits ( I still avoid pasta and bread) I feel much better.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20426157)

Always start my day off with egg whites and a cup of oats or ezekiel toast.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20426738)

Yes well tell you what hippies: on your deathbed you will wish you had that muffin or piece of cake, not another smoothie or ground turkey whatever.

Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die. </thread>