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EddyTheDog 11-04-2015 03:06 PM

Breaking: Bomb Bought Down Plane...
 
So, what happens next?..

clickity click 11-04-2015 03:14 PM

No proof, just a 'feeling'.

$money$ 11-04-2015 03:23 PM

knew this 2 days ago

Sly 11-04-2015 03:33 PM

Invite them by the millions into your country?

EddyTheDog 11-04-2015 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20625870)
No proof, just a 'feeling'.

The US and the UK governments seem to think it was...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20625890)
Invite them by the millions into your country?

I expect that will be the case.....

j3rkules 11-04-2015 03:41 PM

I suspect the Russians and Egyptians know more than they're letting on. Each are keeping shtum for very different reasons.

crockett 11-04-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20625870)
No proof, just a 'feeling'.

The US military has claimed to have tracked a single a heat flash at the time the plane went down. They said this a few days ago that there was no heat source trail to the ground, as in no rocket launch. Meaning it had to be some sort of explosion, be it fuel tank explosion or bomb.

mineistaken 11-04-2015 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20625890)
Invite them by the millions into your country?

Brainwashed morons think it is a great idea. Sadly morons are high in numbers.

Barry-xlovecam 11-04-2015 03:45 PM

"A senior U.S. defense official said on November 2 that infrared images of the area taken when the Airbus A321-200 was in the air detected a heat flash that suggests the plane was destroyed internally by a bomb or a fuel-tank explosion." ... conjecture at this point.
Satellite Image Suggests Internal Explosion Downed Russian Plane

RT has not made an unbiased report of this new allegation -- they are working on a statement I am sure ...


Maybe, it is an FSB false flag operation? Moscow just established a 4th airbase yesterday. Just like the CIA blew up the towers in NYC ... Putin will launch a full scale invasion now :helpme

An FSB false flag operation makes as much sense as the 9/11 false flag allegations. Why aren't the CT theorists getting manic over this -- do you think they might have an agenda?

j3rkules 11-04-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20625890)
Invite them by the millions into your country?

So now the north African economies will crumble due to the destruction of their own tourist industry caused mainly by their fanatical Islamic brothers who dont want to see westerners getting sunburnt and spending money. Next we'll see another surge of migrants en route to a better economic situation, which is anywhere in western Europe. No doubt Merkel will call them refugees. Give it while longer and their reluctance to integrate will lead to radicalisation and more of life's failures turned wannabe martyrs. What a great thing this religion is.

sarettah 11-04-2015 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20625870)
No proof, just a 'feeling'.




.

Google Expert 11-05-2015 01:03 AM

russkies blew their own plane to stir shit up

just a punk 11-05-2015 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20625862)
So, what happens next?..

I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

Just my :2 cents:

_Richard_ 11-05-2015 05:42 AM

problem with the burns/heat theory is the plane was fully fueled.. wouldn't that cause an explosion if it broke up? i think they were also saying there was detectable efforts to try to get control of the plane?

RummyBoy 11-05-2015 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20626159)
WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore

чертовски верно !

(don't know if "Damn Straight" make sense in Russian so well)

Carribean crisis? you mean Cuban crisis? :)

Oracle Porn 11-05-2015 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20626159)
I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

Just my :2 cents:

you need to get out of the house more often dude...russians never did well dealing with muslims, why you think this time it will be different? nothing to do with america...

just a punk 11-05-2015 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20626317)
Carribean crisis? you mean Cuban crisis? :)

Yes, that one. In Russia it's known as Caribbean crisis. Right now we have no nukes on Cuba as well as the States have no nukes in Turkey, but the overall situation is very unstable. If one of the sides make a mistake, it may start a chain reaction which will end up very bad to both Russians and citizens of NATO countries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 20626329)
russians never did well dealing with muslims

Yes, that's why they did it with our WTC on 9/11.

pornguy 11-05-2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20625902)
Brainwashed morons think it is a great idea. Sadly morons are high in numbers.

In some aspects is not so much moron, as it is duped into thinking this will be ok. The vast majority of people tend to believe the Gubments and what they are told and follow along like good sheep. Some are morons and some are not.

Just my :2 cents:

MetaMan 11-05-2015 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20626159)
I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

Just my :2 cents:

Russian government bombs apartmemt building as an excuse to start a war with chechnya killing inmocent civilians

Russia down jet mh17 killing innocent civilians

Russian plane blows up in the sky in egypt... USAs fault....

You need to look in the mirror commie idiot.

Wilsy 11-05-2015 07:36 AM

Not heard any talk of the "black box" yet wonder why that is ?

MetaMan 11-05-2015 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilsy (Post 20626418)
Not heard any talk of the "black box" yet wonder why that is ?

The russian government will be "decoding" it until they can gauge public perception then spin its contents to however they see fit is most beneficial to them.

just a punk 11-05-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20626394)
Russia down jet mh17 killing innocent civilians

Never heard of that. Any proof or just your drunk delirium, as usually? Some people think you are a troll, but they are so wrong... You are just a stupid and pathetic clown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilsy (Post 20626418)
Not heard any talk of the "black box" yet wonder why that is ?

One was decoded already. The other one will be decoded later - it's damaged a bit.

http://www.interfax.ru/ftproot/textp...samopis700.jpg

crockett 11-05-2015 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20626159)
I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

Just my :2 cents:

Hey imagine that the resident commie blames America.. Who would have ever suspected that dumb Russians would blame the USA.. I mean it's not like they blame the USA for every fucking thing that happens... No way..

Holy fuck you guys are brainwashed..

Sarn 11-05-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20625862)
So, what happens next?..

the reaction will not be emotional and to be well thought out.

Sarn 11-05-2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20626477)
Hey imagine that the resident commie blames America.. Who would have ever suspected that dumb Russians would blame the USA.. I mean it's not like they blame the USA for every fucking thing that happens... No way..

Holy fuck you guys are brainwashed..

Obama destroys the roads in Russia :1orglaugh
http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1511/1e/5365d517aed6.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 11-05-2015 09:37 AM

Why the U.S. Hopes ISIS Didn't Destroy the Russian Airliner

Quote:

If the airliner?s destruction in linked to ISIS, it may clarify U.S. thinking in two important ways. It could solidify public support for more military action (imagine if 224 Americans had died in the blast). It also might force Congress to act; it has stood passively on the sidelines since Obama ordered bombing of ISIS targets to begin in August 2014. The U.S. public tends to be fickle about sending troops to fight overseas; a congressional declaration of war on ISIS might go a long way to steeling the nation for a lengthy campaign.

Confirmation that an ISIS explosion brought down the plane would signal that the U.S.-led efforts against the ISIS heartland in Iraq and Syria have done little to deter the terror group?s ambitions. If confirmed, the fact that the airliner was brought down by ISIS?s Egyptian affiliate would only highlight the challenge posed by the group and its expanding network of like-minded terrorists.

Secondly, it would show ISIS?s willingness to bring the war home to both Russians and Americans.
Hopefully, there will be some aircraft malfunction that caused this disaster -- and not some cover-up to protect vulnerability. Conversely, if it was a terrorist event both the USA and Russia have to seriously rethink their strategies.

Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and:

Russia has anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to defend against "different emergencies, such as hijacking" - CBS News

Quote:

Russian officials have insisted that their military involvement in Syria will be limited to an air force operation.


Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said in an interview with the daily Komsomolskaya Pravda that the anti-aircraft missiles are there to project Russian fighter jets from a possible attack or hijack while on mission.

"There can be different emergencies, such as hijacking the jet on the territory of a neighboring country or an attack on it," he said. "We should be prepared for that."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sf8EpgkSQ
Kiddies -- it's déjà vu again ... Been there done that ..


EddyTheDog 11-05-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20626590)
Why the U.S. Hopes ISIS Didn't Destroy the Russian Airliner



Hopefully, there will be some aircraft malfunction that caused this disaster -- and not some cover-up to protect vulnerability. Conversely, if it was a terrorist event both the USA and Russia have to seriously rethink their strategies.

Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and:

Russia has anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to defend against "different emergencies, such as hijacking" - CBS News

How the fuck do you hijack a military jet?..

just a punk 11-05-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20626590)
Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria

According to the local news, some additional SA-22 Greyhound and SA-17 Grizzly (AKA BUK) systems were sent to Syria. Those are made to work together: SA-17 to intercept high flying targets like bombers and jet-fighters (50 km range for targets like F-15) and SA-22 against the low flying ones like cruise missiles etc (can hit a target with a zero attitude). I don't think that ISIS has anything of that...

Best-In-BC 11-05-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20625862)
So, what happens next?..

Shit happens and we move on (we investigate), that's the mature thing to do, but Im sure they wanna bomb people and harass people that had nothing to do with it.

_Richard_ 11-05-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20626593)
How the fuck do you hijack a military jet?..

.... i think they'r referring to commercial jets that are being used as missiles, as seen during 2001

Barry-xlovecam 11-05-2015 10:06 AM

You missed it -- it got lost in the translation ...
Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev I think meant to say a passenger jet hijacked from a foreign country and used to suicide bomb Russian airbases in Syria, Syrian government installations or Syrian and their Hezbollah and Iranian allied ground forces. That is the way I interrupted the poor English.

This is a very remote possibility to openly consider -- even a boisterous comment -- we are ready for anything now. It may also be a harbinger statement of what caused the Russian plane crash in the Sinai.

Are we so quick to forget the Gulf of Tonkin incident or more recently the WMD allegations of the Bush administration? Slow down and think ...

just a punk 11-05-2015 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20626609)
.... i think they'r referring to commercial jets that are being used as missiles, as seen during 2001

Indeed. But that's an official version. If you look at tech specs of Russian air defense systems in Syria, you will see they have an outspoken military functionаlity. E.g. SA-17 intercepts USAF ALCM's with a 70%-80% probability from 26 km and the same probability for F-15 from 50 km. As I said above, I don't think that Syrian Islamists have anything of those.

Sarn 11-05-2015 11:30 AM

This problem can occur only in those who want to attack our base or our plane.
Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20626593)
How the fuck do you hijack a military jet?..

to bribe the pilot :)

j3rkules 11-06-2015 11:04 AM

Egypt wouldn't even be my last idea for a destination vacation...

just a punk 11-06-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20627720)
Egypt wouldn't even be my last idea for a destination vacation...

I was thought for many years to spent a vacation there. They have a great sea etc, but I was always afraid to bring my family there. It's like to bring them into Mexico.

RummyBoy 11-06-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20626590)
Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria

Looks like different sources have different views on why:

Putin Moves Anti-Aircraft Missiles into Syria: Why? - Yahoo Finance

I thought this was a reaction to the US sending jets over there.

just a punk 11-06-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20627753)
Looks like different sources have different views on why:

Putin Moves Anti-Aircraft Missiles into Syria: Why? - Yahoo Finance

I thought this was a reaction to the US sending jets over there.

And you were right :2 cents:

O MARINA 11-06-2015 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20625890)
Invite them by the millions into your country?

NO Thank you!

O MARINA 11-06-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20627720)
Egypt wouldn't even be my last idea for a destination vacation...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_r...ssian_citizens

Rochard 11-06-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20626622)
Indeed. But that's an official version. If you look at tech specs of Russian air defense systems in Syria, you will see they have an outspoken military functionаlity. E.g. SA-17 intercepts USAF ALCM's with a 70%-80% probability from 26 km and the same probability for F-15 from 50 km. As I said above, I don't think that Syrian Islamists have anything of those.

Well, we already have proof that Russians can shoot down commercial airliners.....


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