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brassmonkey 12-09-2016 01:53 PM

Obama orders 'full review' of 2016 election hacking
 
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President Obama at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa on Tuesday. (Photo: Monica Herndon/Tampa Bay Times via AP, Pool)

President Obama has ordered the U.S. intelligence community to conduct a "full review" of the cyberattacks during the 2016 election and to prepare a report on the subject - including to Congress - before he leaves office, White House homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco said Thursday.

"We may have crossed into a new threshold," Monaco said at a breakfast meeting with reporters, referring to the "malicious" election-related cyberattacks, which U.S. intelligence officials have said publicly they are "confident" were directed by the Russian government. "And it's incumbent upon us to take a stock of that, to review, to conduct some after-action, to understand what this means and what has happened and to impart lessons learned."

Deputy White House press secretary Eric Schultz later told reporters that Obama ordered the review earlier this week, describing it as a "deep dive" by U.S. intelligence agencies - working with the FBI and the State Department - into malicious cyberattacks that the U.S. intelligence community have already determined was directed at the "highest levels" of the Russian government. (Schultz notably said Thursday that the U.S. intelligence community has "high confidence" in that conclusion. The intelligence community had previously said it was "confident" about the Russian role.) He added that the review will also encompass cyberprobing and "scanning" of state election systems last summer, as well as look back at an earlier election-related cyberattack on the campaigns of Obama and Sen. John McCain in 2008, which U.S. officials attributed to the Chinese government.

Schultz emphasized that the review is "not an effort to challenge the outcome" of the 2016 presidential election. Still, he said, "it's a huge priority. It's a major priority for the president."

Obama's review could box in President-elect Donald Trump on an issue that has wide-ranging implications for U.S.-Russia relations. Already the matter has prompted calls for further investigations by the Congress - including proposals to create a national commission, patterned after the one formed after the 9/11 terror attacks - to conduct a full public review of the subject.

In an interview released this week, President-elect Trump dismissed the conclusions of the intelligence community on the Russian role in cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations, saying at one point they could have been committed by "some guy in his home in New Jersey."

"I don't believe they interfered," said Trump in an interview with Time, about the Russian role in meddling in the U.S. election. "That became a laughing point, not a talking point, a laughing point. . Why not get along with Russia?" Trump added. "And they can help us fight ISIS, which is both costly in lives and costly in money. And they're effective and smart. It could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey. I believe that it could have been Russia, and it could have been any one of many other people. Sources and even individuals."

Despite calls by seven Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee for the Obama administration to declassify more information about what it knows about the cyberattacks, Monaco did not commit to a public release of the intelligence community's review, saying officials had to be careful not to release information that would "disclose sources and methods." But Schultz later told reporters, "We're going to make public as much as we can."

She also did not respond to a question about what response the U.S. government may have taken, or is still contemplating, in retaliation for what it believes to be the Russian attacks. In her opening comments to reporters, Monaco spoke generally about the cyberthreats facing the country, adding at one point that "we will act to protect our interests, as well as impose costs" on malicious cyber actors, including nation-states, that attack U.S. interests. She did not elaborate.

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TheLegacy 12-09-2016 01:57 PM

This has the makings of a backlash both overseas and within USA.

Bladewire 12-09-2016 01:58 PM

Let's hope they get this out before December 19th so the Electoral College can make an informed decision of who they're really appointing.

Russia says it had 'contacts' with the Trump campaign during the election

Phoenix 12-09-2016 02:00 PM

what are you hoping for?

Bladewire 12-09-2016 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21368110)
Let's hope they get this out before December 19th so the Electoral College can make an informed decision of who they're really appointing.

Russia says it had 'contacts' with the Trump campaign during the election

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 21368122)
what are you hoping for?

:upsidedow:helpme:error

Sarn 12-09-2016 02:14 PM

Soros is not profitable)) better that Russia and the US will be at war and he manipulated all. recent days, Obama works well))

2MuchMark 12-09-2016 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 21368122)
what are you hoping for?

A really nice gift for Christmas.

Lykos 12-09-2016 02:53 PM

Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule :(

Bladewire 12-09-2016 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 21368245)
Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule :(

Yes there is a chance he will not become president.

In America we have the popular vote, and we have the electoral college vote.

The electoral college was created to prevent the majority from voting against America's interest.

The electoral college is made of 538 elite electors, and by the constitution, they are to vote their conscience for the president. The candidate who gets 270 or more electoral college votes wins.

Michael Moore Predicts Electoral College Will Deny Trump the Presidency

kane 12-09-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 21368245)
Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule :(

There is a chance, but it is a very small, microscopic chance.

There are a few ways in which he may not become president.

1. Enough electors choose to vote against him when the Electoral College meets. 38 of them would have to change their votes in order for that to happen which is very VERY unlikely.

2. This investigation turns up something that shows Trump did something to rig the election and committed a crime or crimes in order to win. I don't know exactly how this would play out, but if he were charged with a crime I'm not sure if he would be allowed to become president. If the investigation turned up these crimes after he was in office he could be impeached.

brassmonkey 12-09-2016 03:46 PM

because you are an expert on this? lol this is the first time an elected pres is facing a court case. the guy is a fuking weasel!
Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21368314)
There is a chance, but it is a very small, microscopic chance.

There are a few ways in which he may not become president.

1. Enough electors choose to vote against him when the Electoral College meets. 38 of them would have to change their votes in order for that to happen which is very VERY unlikely.

2. This investigation turns up something that shows Trump did something to rig the election and committed a crime or crimes in order to win. I don't know exactly how this would play out, but if he were charged with a crime I'm not sure if he would be allowed to become president. If the investigation turned up these crimes after he was in office he could be impeached.


kane 12-09-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21368335)
because you are an expert on this? lol this is the first time an elected pres is facing a court case. the guy is a fuking weasel!

I'm not claiming to be an expert and I agree, Trump is a weasel. That said, I just don't see a whole lot of other ways for him not to become president. As much as some people might want it, I don't think 39 electors are going to vote for Clinton. The only way the investigation Obama has ordered can really change things is if it brings up evidence that Trump and his people rigged the election.

Maybe there are other ways he could be kept from becoming president, but I don't see them.

Care to enlighten?

brassmonkey 12-09-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21368365)
I'm not claiming to be an expert and I agree, Trump is a weasel. That said, I just don't see a whole lot of other ways for him not to become president. As much as some people might want it, I don't think 39 electors are going to vote for Clinton. The only way the investigation Obama has ordered can really change things is if it brings up evidence that Trump and his people rigged the election.

Maybe there are other ways he could be kept from becoming president, but I don't see them.

Care to enlighten?

the majority does not want trump! i think he has sum good points but the communist part worries me. we may have to defend our shit in the next 4 years. i hope i am wrong

kane 12-09-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21368383)
the majority does not want trump! i think he has sum good points but the communist part worries me. we may have to defend our shit in the next 4 years. i hope i am wrong

You are correct. The majority of voters don't want Trump, but our system is such that it doesn't matter. With the current system that is in place it is going to be nearly impossible to keep Trump from taking office.

Bladewire 12-09-2016 05:46 PM




escorpio 12-09-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 21368245)
Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule :(

Go back to high school and pay attention this time.

Rochard 12-09-2016 06:02 PM

If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.

Sarn 12-10-2016 04:38 AM

:thumbsup

nico-t 12-10-2016 04:53 AM

wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

nico-t 12-10-2016 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21368278)
Yes there is a chance he will not become president.

in your triggered dreams :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2016 06:07 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes

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WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

In the months before the election, it was largely documents from Democratic Party systems that were leaked to the public. Intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians gave the Democrats’ documents to WikiLeaks.

Republicans have a different explanation for why no documents from their networks were ever released. Over the past several months, officials from the Republican committee have consistently said that their networks were not compromised, asserting that only the accounts of individual Republicans were attacked. On Friday, a senior committee official said he had no comment.
Thanks Putin.

CarlosTheGaucho 12-10-2016 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21368581)
If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.

Same as part of the Clinton campaign financed from Saudi money? colluding with mass media? false flag operations in order to instigate problems and violence? hatchet jobs timed at the right moment? all in order to influence the electioň?

Ah hold on that is probably what didn't get her elected in the first place since there has been obviously enough people casting a protest vote.

Now can one write an analytical report why Russia may have a strategic interest in not electing Clinton? Definitely!

However it's again the same problem - they are so blindfolded that it doesn't ever appear to them it's the CONTENT of those emails that should be addressed. Not WHO released them - that is something that will NEVER be confirmed, and is completely irrelevant.

Such desperate moves in order to still try to influence the public opinion after the election, while af least one half of the country could obviously only care about the content, NOT the messenger.

This delusional move, completely ignoring the core of the problem is truly significant to the whole past administration and it is very likely to backfire.

nico-t 12-10-2016 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21369070)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes



Thanks Putin.

That's nothing, zero, compared to what George Soros and his establishment friends have done to push Hillary and their aggressive year long propaganda campaigns to brainwash the people. Or do you somehow feel that isn't influencing the people?

They even rigged the primaries against Bernie. And what's even more unbelievable is that alot the people who supported Bernie voted for Clinton, the one who fucked Bernie over...
That's like when you walk hand in hand with your girlfriend, then a guy smashes her head in leaving her dead on the street, and you continue to walk hand in hand now with the guy who killed your girlfriend. It's completely insane.

crockett 12-10-2016 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21369025)
wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

Spin spin baby... Trump has been claiming the election was rigged even after the election ended. Yet because a recount or investigation might hurt him, now it's different..

I'd laugh my ass off if both Trump and Hillary were caught cheating. I'd then go to the streets along with every other "real American" and demand a new election.

Sarn 12-10-2016 08:09 AM

that feel when you hack pentagon and cia fbi and NSA fuck up. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GTnn8d__dcE/hqdefault.jpg

Russia strong №1 :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 12-10-2016 08:15 AM

Ok .........

Sarn 12-10-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 21369169)
Ok .........

it was sarcasm)

baddog 12-10-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 21368554)
Go back to high school and pay attention this time.

Do you have any idea what country he lives in; or were you trying to come across as an idiot?

baddog 12-10-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21369148)
Spin spin baby... Trump has been claiming the election was rigged even after the election ended. Yet because a recount or investigation might hurt him, now it's different..

I'd laugh my ass off if both Trump and Hillary were caught cheating. I'd then go to the streets along with every other "real American" and demand a new election.

You are the one that needs to go back to high school

crockett 12-10-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21369220)
You are the one that needs to go back to high school

Grumpy old Men 3 coming soon..

baddog 12-10-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21369070)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes



Thanks Putin.

Is that the same high confidence that insisted that Clinton would win?

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2016 09:32 AM

Quote:

[ l]inked to a Breitbart News piece saying the pair broke bread as Trump’s rise “TERRIFIES WORLD ELITE.” But if Kaine is friendly with Alex Soros, it probably doesn’t compare to the good times Donald Trump has shared with Soros’s dad.

Over the years, the two billionaires have had tabloid-friendly professional dealings, teaming up to build one of North America’s most recognizable skyscrapers—and shared billing on a lawsuit over the sale of the most expensive building in New York City.

The two billionaires even palled around one Christmas Eve. None of this means Donald Trump is a covert George Soros puppet. But it’s already given some conservatives pause.
RIGHT SPEAK: Donald Trump Took George Soros’s Money

:1orglaugh george-soross :error Another well educated conservitard blogger ...

like them sissors's bad cuts -- the American idiot speaks --MAGA! --- LMAO
Your blog dollars hard at work :1orglaugh

https://www.google.com/search?q=soros+lent+trump

They are all in this shit together ...

Big names back Trump tower - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

Donald Trump Took Liberal Icon George Soros’s Money - The Daily Beast Just as lame I guess ...

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2016 09:36 AM

17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...

For the record: I don't favor Clinton or Trump and resent the only choice being between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2016 09:43 AM

If this story has legs -- it may be that there was no collusion. Only that there was Russian criminal interference with the US election process.

I have a problem with that and I have to blame the RNC and the DNC as being incompetent -- they both got hacked.

Sarn 12-10-2016 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21369241)
....
They are all in this shit together ...
...

but money is money))

Vendzilla 12-10-2016 10:25 AM

So what they are saying is that the Democrats are desperate?

crockett 12-10-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21369247)
17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...

For the record: I don't favor Clinton or Trump and resent the only choice being between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Its a common trend, right wingers "always" know better..

crockett 12-10-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21369229)
Is that the same high confidence that insisted that Clinton would win?

Clinton did win the popular vote.. Never in history has the popular vote been so much more and the candidate didn't win the EC.

That shows, that gerrymandering is what "won" the EC. Meaning a rigged system at state level in a handful of states changed the outcome of the election.

That is not how our elections should work. If you think allowing state governments to change the will of the people by redrawing lines is ok, then you should move to Russia or some other shit hole where the public has no real choice.

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2016 10:48 AM

The real question is about outside interference in the US Elections. In the wider view: the condition of US private and government network infrastructure security.

Both the DNC and RNC had their shit hacked -- that should bother EVERYONE.

Anyway, when Trump's business network gets hacked, if it ever does, I bet some shit will hit the fans. Then US network security will be a *more real* issue to some I guess.

Bladewire 12-10-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21369331)
The real question is about outside interference in the US Elections. In the wider view: the condition of US private and government network infrastructure security.

Both the DNC and RNC had their shit hacked -- that should bother EVERYONE.

Anyway, when Trump's business network gets hacked, if it ever does, I bet some shit will hit the fans. Then US network security will be a *more real* issue to some I guess.

Trump was hacked, blackmailed & paid off by Putin.

Trump tells a ten year old blond girl going up the escalator that he'll be dating her soon (not knowing he was being recorded) imagine what a person like that does in private not thinking he's being recorded, like on a visit to Russia perhaps. Trumps huge ego, grab 'em by the pussy, the guy who never apologizes, would do anything to save face.


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