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onwebcam 02-28-2019 02:46 PM
Cohen referred to DOJ for at least 6 perjury counts
 
You'd have to be an idiot to voluntarily testify before Congress right now. A special kind of idiot to do so while just pleaing to perjury :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://t.co/q3cj0AywFU

Bladewire 02-28-2019 02:48 PM
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

Blocked Alt-right hate fake nic post in 3... 2.. 1...

TheSquealer 02-28-2019 02:48 PM
Doesn't count. He's already on record with Orange Man Bad. That het got busted lying repeatedly is irrelevant so long as Orange Man Bad.

Bladewire 02-28-2019 02:54 PM
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

Meanwhile Trump admin has 199 indictments of 37 people you fucking stupid morons

Blocked Alt-right hate fake nic post in 3... 2.. 1...

It has a mental defect resulting in an untreatable disability

TheSquealer 02-28-2019 02:54 PM
Funny how you idiots are the only ones that say "benghazi"

Bladewire 02-28-2019 03:38 PM
↑↑↑ I was right again :banana

2MuchMark 02-28-2019 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22424276)
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

Blocked Alt-right hate fake nic post in 3... 2.. 1...
:thumbsup

Rochard 02-28-2019 05:18 PM
This is ridiculous.

1) The first point is about "defrauding his bank". I watched the entire testimony; I don't recall any discussion about defrauding his bank. He was asked if the banks had ever lost money on any of his loans, and that he never declared bankruptcy.

In the letter it says "Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of income tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a bank, one count of excessive campaign contribution, and one count of making a false statement to Congress". He was not charged with defrauding a bank.

2) Then there is the issue about if he wanted a job in the White House. During his testimony Cohen said he did not want a job in the White House. Again this is some bullshit. The letter says "Cohen privately told friends and colleagues, including in seized text messages, that he expected to be given a prominent role in the new administration". He did not say he WANTED a job in the White House, or wanted to work in the White House. My wife expects I will demand sex from her tonight, but that doesn't mean she WANTS to have sex.

3) The twitter account about "Women for Cohen". During testimony Cohen said he did not set that account up. The owner of RedFinch told the Wall Street Journal "Mr. Cohen asked Mr. Gauger to set up the account". And? If I bring my car into the shop and say "fix my car".... This means I physically did not put a wrench to my car, but instead "directed" someone to do it for me. Cohen said he did not set that account up, meaning he did not physically create the Twitter account. Cohen might have directed someone to do this, but he did not actually set up the acccount.

4) The Truth In Testomony form - which was filled out yesterday morning when it was given to him - did not report any "contracts with foreign government entities". According to Cohen's attorneys, he did not do any contract work for "foreign government entities". He worked for a bank and an airline. The bank might be partially owned by a foreign government, but I surely wouldn't consider that a foreign government entity. It's a bank. It's not run by the government, it's a private company. A foreign government might own 80% of the bank, but it's not a government entiy.

5) This is so stupid... Cohen said he was "a good attorney" but then violated the law. Seriously?

6) Seriously?

All of these are shaky ground, so.. whatever.



But hey... Any time we get to investigate a Republican, let's do it. He worked for a Republican President as his personal attorney, he worked on Trump's campaign, AND if that's not enough he was a high ranking official on the RNC... SO yes, let's investigate him some more. A lot more. Democrats don't care what happens to him; he's already going to prison... And a further investigation into him might cause yet MORE problems for Trump so.... Great, let's look into these issues even more.



And then let's call Cohen back to testify again to clear this all up! LOL.

onwebcam 02-28-2019 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.

1) The first point is about "defrauding his bank". I watched the entire testimony; I don't recall any discussion about defrauding his bank. He was asked if the banks had ever lost money on any of his loans, and that he never declared bankruptcy.

In the letter it says "Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of income tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a bank, one count of excessive campaign contribution, and one count of making a false statement to Congress". He was not charged with defrauding a bank.
It was in his opening statement.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.

2) Then there is the issue about if he wanted a job in the White House. During his testimony Cohen said he did not want a job in the White House. Again this is some bullshit. The letter says "Cohen privately told friends and colleagues, including in seized text messages, that he expected to be given a prominent role in the new administration". He did not say he WANTED a job in the White House, or wanted to work in the White House. My wife expects I will demand sex from her tonight, but that doesn't mean she WANTS to have sex.
He was trying to get Chief of Staff job.. This has been confirmed by at least one person already.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.


3) The twitter account about "Women for Cohen". During testimony Cohen said he did not set that account up. The owner of RedFinch told the Wall Street Journal "Mr. Cohen asked Mr. Gauger to set up the account". And? If I bring my car into the shop and say "fix my car".... This means I physically did not put a wrench to my car, but instead "directed" someone to do it for me. Cohen said he did not set that account up, meaning he did not physically create the Twitter account. Cohen might have directed someone to do this, but he did not actually set up the acccount.

Trump just "directed" his lawyer to do a NDA with Stormy and paid for it out of his own pocket as proven by evidence provided by Cohen



Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.



4) The Truth In Testomony form - which was filled out yesterday morning when it was given to him - did not report any "contracts with foreign government entities". According to Cohen's attorneys, he did not do any contract work for "foreign government entities". He worked for a bank and an airline. The bank might be partially owned by a foreign government, but I surely wouldn't consider that a foreign government entity. It's a bank. It's not run by the government, it's a private company. A foreign government might own 80% of the bank, but it's not a government entiy.
Would you be saying the same if it was Russian owned?


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5) This is so stupid... Cohen said he was "a good attorney" but then violated the law. Seriously?
When you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

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6) Seriously?


Yes, seriously. See above

kane 02-28-2019 05:50 PM
What a cluster fuck this has all become.

crockett 02-28-2019 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.

1) The first point is about "defrauding his bank". I watched the entire testimony; I don't recall any discussion about defrauding his bank. He was asked if the banks had ever lost money on any of his loans, and that he never declared bankruptcy.

In the letter it says "Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of income tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a bank, one count of excessive campaign contribution, and one count of making a false statement to Congress". He was not charged with defrauding a bank.

2) Then there is the issue about if he wanted a job in the White House. During his testimony Cohen said he did not want a job in the White House. Again this is some bullshit. The letter says "Cohen privately told friends and colleagues, including in seized text messages, that he expected to be given a prominent role in the new administration". He did not say he WANTED a job in the White House, or wanted to work in the White House. My wife expects I will demand sex from her tonight, but that doesn't mean she WANTS to have sex.

3) The twitter account about "Women for Cohen". During testimony Cohen said he did not set that account up. The owner of RedFinch told the Wall Street Journal "Mr. Cohen asked Mr. Gauger to set up the account". And? If I bring my car into the shop and say "fix my car".... This means I physically did not put a wrench to my car, but instead "directed" someone to do it for me. Cohen said he did not set that account up, meaning he did not physically create the Twitter account. Cohen might have directed someone to do this, but he did not actually set up the acccount.

4) The Truth In Testomony form - which was filled out yesterday morning when it was given to him - did not report any "contracts with foreign government entities". According to Cohen's attorneys, he did not do any contract work for "foreign government entities". He worked for a bank and an airline. The bank might be partially owned by a foreign government, but I surely wouldn't consider that a foreign government entity. It's a bank. It's not run by the government, it's a private company. A foreign government might own 80% of the bank, but it's not a government entiy.

5) This is so stupid... Cohen said he was "a good attorney" but then violated the law. Seriously?

6) Seriously?

All of these are shaky ground, so.. whatever.



But hey... Any time we get to investigate a Republican, let's do it. He worked for a Republican President as his personal attorney, he worked on Trump's campaign, AND if that's not enough he was a high ranking official on the RNC... SO yes, let's investigate him some more. A lot more. Democrats don't care what happens to him; he's already going to prison... And a further investigation into him might cause yet MORE problems for Trump so.... Great, let's look into these issues even more.



And then let's call Cohen back to testify again to clear this all up! LOL.


It's all BS and standard operating procedure for the corrupt Republicans. They cant argue against the evidence so instead they try to attack the leakers, the whistleblowers or in this case people testifying on what they know.


It's very well known that lawyers defend with evidence if they have evidence to support their case. If they have no evidence they attack those giving testimony.


Its obvious the Republicans have absolutely nothing. Hence the reason they always attack the person..


They are chasing headlines and trying to pander to their base ..

onwebcam 02-28-2019 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22424368)
It's all BS and standard operating procedure for the corrupt Republicans. They cant argue against the evidence so instead they try to attack the leakers, the whistleblowers or in this case people testifying on what they know.


It's very well known that lawyers defend with evidence if they have evidence to support their case. If they have no evidence they attack those giving testimony.


Its obvious the Republicans have absolutely nothing. Hence the reason they always attack the person..


They are chasing headlines and trying to pander to their base ..
What evidence?

Standard procedure? Like coaching a witness? Allowing Clinton's buddy Lanny Davis to put on the spectacle?

onwebcam 02-28-2019 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 22424364)
What a cluster fuck this has all become.
Oh it's just getting started.

baddog 02-28-2019 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424356)
This is ridiculous.

1) The first point is about "defrauding his bank". I watched the entire testimony; I don't recall any discussion about defrauding his bank. He was asked if the banks had ever lost money on any of his loans, and that he never declared bankruptcy.

In the letter it says "Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of income tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a bank, one count of excessive campaign contribution, and one count of making a false statement to Congress". He was not charged with defrauding a bank.
False statements are, by definition, fraud. :2 cents:

onwebcam 02-28-2019 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22424373)
False statements are, by definition, fraud. :2 cents:
Which is what Manafort is charged with and what Imran Awan walked away for after downloading the House

onwebcam 02-28-2019 07:03 PM
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

NEW: Michael Cohen will return to the House Intelligence Committee to testify again on March 6
https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen-...ce2453fa7.html

onwebcam 02-28-2019 07:55 PM
Michael Cohen’s perjury problem: Witnesses refute testimony about not wanting White House job

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...mony-about-not

Rochard 02-28-2019 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22424373)
False statements are, by definition, fraud. :2 cents:
Again, these aren't false statements. Is this really the way the Republicans want to play this?

Their proof that Cohen WANTED to work in the White House is texts that say he "expected" (not wanted, expected) to be offered a job in the White House. He didn't WANT a job in the White House, but instead he expected to be offered a job - which perhaps he would have refused because he wanted to continue on as his personal attorney... In NYC....

Then they mention two tweets.... One form a "former NYC detective who "knew Cohen for years" and someone who claims to be a Pastor who knew that Cohen "begged for a job in the White House".

This is the standard the Republican party is going to use? They claim Cohen "wanted" the job because of texts that don't say "wanted" but instead say "expected", and two random tweets from people they haven't vetted?

Odd how Republicans suddenly want to investigate people. Very odd.

By all means, let's investigate this further. In fact, let's appoint a special prosecutor to investigate further. Let's give that special prosecutor two years to investigate Cohen and every dirty rotten thing he has ever done. Let's investigate everything he ever did for Trump.


Please let's investigate.


We can start with some of his recent work. Let's start with his job as deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee. Let's find out if he did anything dirty there. Then we can talk about his time on the Trump campaign.

Let's call him in to testify again. Please.

Rochard 02-28-2019 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22424371)
Oh it's just getting started.
Yep, it's just getting started. Watergate took six years. Sixty people were indicted.

We have a long way to go.

Rochard 02-28-2019 08:42 PM
Great news!!!!!

Cohen is coming back to testify again on March 6th!

astronaut x 02-28-2019 09:12 PM
We as a country, send people to prison, by testimonies of people far less "the republican's idea of credible" than Micheal Cohen.

onwebcam 02-28-2019 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424429)
Again, these aren't false statements. Is this really the way the Republicans want to play this?

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He's referring to making false statements on loan applications

Busty2 02-28-2019 09:23 PM
It's just sermantics, nothing will happen to Cohen over and above the shit he has already pleaded to. He is way to valuable to Muller.

Rochard 02-28-2019 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22424452)
He's referring to making false statements on loan applications
Great. Let's investigate. Let's dig deeper into Cohen. Please.

Busty2 02-28-2019 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424458)
Great. Let's investigate. Let's dig deeper into Cohen. Please.
Smoke and mirrors ! until the next revelation, Oh wait it just happened, its just come to light that last year Chump overruled everyone and told the FBI to give his son-in-law top security clearance. Memo's have surfaced, yet he previously denied having anything to do with security clearances for his family !

How many shoes does this guy have to drop ?

King Mark 02-28-2019 11:08 PM
"Cohen is a liar, except for the parts that can be used to make trump look innocent maybe. Those are the true parts"

-trump supporters

baddog 03-01-2019 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424429)
Again, these aren't false statements.
So, he wasn't convicted of one count of making false statements to a bank?

Bladewire 03-01-2019 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424431)
Yep, it's just getting started. Watergate took six years. Sixty people were indicted.

We have a long way to go.
199 indictments of 37 Trump supporters so far just 2 years in and many MANY more to come :thumbsup

crockett 03-01-2019 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22424495)
"Cohen is a liar, except for the parts that can be used to make trump look innocent maybe. Those are the true parts"

-trump supporters
also Trump is not a liar because that's different he just stretches the Truth to make liberals mad!!!

-trump supporters

crockett 03-01-2019 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424438)
Great news!!!!!

Cohen is coming back to testify again on March 6th!
The entire reason he's coming back, is because he gave them so much new information on Trump. This is why Republicans wouldn't bring any real witnesses like Cohen in to testify when they had control of the House..because they tried to hide it all.

Bladewire 03-01-2019 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22424862)
The entire reason he's coming back, is because he gave them so much new information on Trump. This is why Republicans wouldn't bring any real witnesses like Cohen in to testify when they had control of the House..because they tried to hide it all.
The Republicans that did that should be fired, tried for treason & immediately jailed pending trial.

Rochard 03-01-2019 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22424849)
So, he wasn't convicted of one count of making false statements to a bank?
Again, it's a matter of semantics... He wasn't charged with fraud, he was charged with making false statements. It seems the Muller investigation, the FBI, and the DOJ decided Cohen did not commit fraud...

Let's just accept this for what it is... This is an attempt by the Republican party to make Cohen look bad. They don't need to do this. Cohen is a liar, a conman, a criminal, and most likely much worse. Cohen is going to prison, and there is a good chance he will fact yet more charges. The Democrats don't give a shit what happens to him. So far as the Democrats are concerned, Cohen is part of the Trump Campaign, The Trump Organization, and the Republican Party (he had an official position in the Republican party).

The Republican party can do everything they want to make him look bad. He is one of them, one of the Republican party. Nail him to the cross all you want.

They want to investigate and file more charges? This is outstanding news. For some reason, after having dozens of investigations into Hillary Clinton, doesn't want to have any investigations. They want to investigate these five or six items..... Yes, by all means, let's investigate all of these items. Cohen begged for a job in the White House? Let's see what emails Cohen sent Trump Jr "begging for a job" and let's see what turns up. Who else did Cohen talk to about this? Let's investigate them too and put them on oath. Did Cohen commit fraud? Let's investigate his finances closer and dig deeper and see what else Cohen was into. Did Trump send Cohen other checks for other things that he did?

Yes, by all means.... Let's investigate Trump's personal attorney of over a decade some more. LOL.

TheSquealer 03-01-2019 12:42 PM
convicted liar and con artist lies repeatedly during testimony against Trump,... Dems completely incredulous ...

Liar says on the record that his loyalty to Trump cost him everything, Dems applaud on cue,... in spite of the fact that all of his crimes that he's going to prison for, had nothing to do with Trump and were done solely for his own personal gain.

LOL

2MuchMark 03-01-2019 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22424429)
A

Let's call him in to testify again. Please.
:thumbsup

Bladewire 03-01-2019 12:52 PM
So Michael Cohen, the Republican National Committee Deputy Finance Chairman and the president's personal attorney for 10 years, is a lying theiving crook that broke the law at Trump's request & lied for Trump. Huh

Rochard 03-01-2019 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22424862)
The entire reason he's coming back, is because he gave them so much new information on Trump. This is why Republicans wouldn't bring any real witnesses like Cohen in to testify when they had control of the House..because they tried to hide it all.
What's really happening here is the Republicans are losing control and have no way of putting a lid on this. They have no idea what to do, and they have plain to contain this. At the same time there is a huge disconnect between Trump and the Trump Administration and the rank and file of the Republican party. The Trump team doesn't trust anyone outside of their little circle, and they are unable to fully work with the Republican party.

God only knows what Cohen testified about behind closed doors. God only knows what more Congress has to investigate.

And the Republicans want to investigate more. LOL. Great, investigate more. Let's find out what else Cohen did for Trump, and what other laws they violated.

Rochard 03-01-2019 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22424882)
So Michael Cohen, the Republican National Committee Deputy Finance Chairman and the president's personal attorney for 10 years, is a lying theiving crook. Huh
They are all criminals. We knew this from day one. Trump was most litigious president ever with over 3500 lawsuits behind him - and another two hundred since he took office. This was part of Hillary's campaign.... Yet somehow Republicans voted him into office.

TheSquealer 03-01-2019 12:57 PM
Muh Russia!!

Muh Russia?


no?

.... any day now?


Orange Man Bad?....

Phoenix 03-01-2019 02:13 PM
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2MuchMark 03-01-2019 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22424887)
Muh Russia!!

Muh Russia?


no?

.... any day now?


Orange Man Bad?....
Orange man bad. Your hero bad. Denial: It's in your veins. Trump & kin' r goin' to jail soon son! HA!


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