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OneHungLo 06-09-2019 07:29 PM

For years, we were told illegal immigrants were more law-abiding than American citizens
 
.... In fact, the opposite is true.




Non-Citizen Federal Crimes

As a percentage of the total crimes per category.

22% of Murders

18% of all Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession

Non-Citizen percentage of whole population is 7%.

Build
That
Wall.

Bladewire 06-09-2019 07:30 PM

Oh look a racist conspiracy coming from a white nationalist Trump supporter imagine that.

Next we'll see Gay conspiracy theories from him about why we should hate Gays

I'm sure DukeSkywalker and Dead eye will be in here momentarily to spread their bigotry and hate as well :2 cents:

Paul Markham 06-10-2019 12:49 AM

The same in Europe. Illegal immigrants are scum yet some want them to keep coming.

thommy 06-10-2019 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22482780)
The same in Europe. Illegal immigrants are scum yet some want them to keep coming.

in wich country they want ILLEGAL immigration?

come over with the facts and post us a link that invites ILLEGALS to any european country.
you should first learn the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration and after that you learn what is LEGAL use of the geneva convention and what is ILLEGAL use of it.

as usual you post bullshit !!!!

crockett 06-10-2019 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482713)
.... In fact, the opposite is true.




Non-Citizen Federal Crimes

As a percentage of the total crimes per category.

22% of Murders

18% of all Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession

Non-Citizen percentage of whole population is 7%.

Build
That
Wall.


Maybe if we are all lucky you will become a statistic and we wont have to listen to you crying about illegals..

beerptrol 06-10-2019 05:27 AM

Tucker and Fox News lol

And for decades we were told Chump is a self made and successful business man

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 05:55 AM

Must be nice to cherry pick any bit of information that you want that comes from a source that caters to people with a specific pre-established point of view and call it a fact.

I wish I lived in that fantasy world.

thommy 06-10-2019 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22482842)
Tucker and Fox News lol

And for decades we were told Chump is a self made and successful business man

i wonder what should happen to people who spend a lot of money on advertisements in newspapers so that 5 innocent people are sentenced to death.

these stories like those of the central park five are unfortunately forgotten only too quickly and it raises the above question, which none of the right-wing radical fools wants to answer.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphic..._jogger_ad.jpg

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22482855)
i wonder what should happen to people who spend a lot of money on advertisements in newspapers so that 5 innocent people are sentenced to death.

these stories like those of the central park five are unfortunately forgotten only too quickly and it raises the above question, which none of the right-wing radical fools wants to answer.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphic..._jogger_ad.jpg

Oh you mean the case were a white woman was raped (not killed) and Trump paid out of pocket for advertising to petition to bring back the Death Penalty so that these 5 non-white kids (4 of them were under 15 years old) would be put on the electric chair.

And he continued to campaign for their deaths even after someone else confessed to the rape of the white girl, had DNA evidence to corroborate he was the rapist, gave a detailed and accurate description of how the rape happened AND was currently in jail for committing rapes that had the exact same MO.

Yes, he continued to campaign for the death of 5 underage kids, even though there was no DNA evidence to link them to the crime and none of their stories made sense. It was all based on "confessions" made after police had sequestered them for over 24 hours without food or adult supervision.

Shit... and people still want to try and say the guy isn't racist? Why not try and convince us the world is flat while you're at it.

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482860)
Oh you mean the case were a white woman was raped (not killed) and Trump paid out of pocket for advertising to petition to bring back the Death Penalty so that these 5 non-white kids (4 of them were under 15 years old) would be put on the electric chair.

And he continued to campaign for their deaths even after someone else confessed to the rape of the white girl, had DNA evidence to corroborate he was the rapist, gave a detailed and accurate description of how the rape happened AND was currently in jail for committing rapes that had the exact same MO.

Yes, he continued to campaign for the death of 5 underage kids, even though there was no DNA evidence to link them to the crime and none of their stories made sense. It was all based on "confessions" made after police had sequestered them for over 24 hours without food or adult supervision.

Shit... and people still want to try and say the guy isn't racist? Why not try and convince us the world is flat while you're at it.

Quote:

Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City (Jan 1 – Dec 31, 2016) {source}

NYC 2016 Crime Statistics By Race

RAPE
Black: 44.3%
Hispanic: 41.3%
White: 7.0%

Murder
Black: 52.4%
Hispanic: 35.9%
White: 7.1%

Robbery
Black: 59.9%
Hispanic: 31.2%
White: 5.7%

Shootings (any crime where victim struck with bullet)
Black: 67.5%
Hispanic: 29.2%
White: 2.3%

Firearm Arrests
Black: 73.6%
Hispanic: 22.7%
White: 3.1%
Did you know if you removed all the brown people out of NYC you would remove 93% - 97% of rapes robberies and murders? And after seeing those stats, is it really a stretch to think they did the crime?

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482869)
Did you know if you removed all the brown people out of NYC you would remove 93% - 97% of rapes robberies and murders? And after seeing those stats, is it really a stretch to think they did the crime?

Did you know that crime is directly related with poverty and lack of education and has nothing to do with race?

Remove all the poor white folk from any redneck state and you'll see similar results in the drop in crime rates.

Making it a race issue is 100% ignorant.


And you're also completely ignoring the bigger problem: He wanted to bring back the DEATH PENALTY for UNDERAGE kids FALSELY accused of a crime that DID NOT result in a death.

VRPdommy 06-10-2019 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482880)
Did you know that crime is directly related with poverty and lack of education and has nothing to do with race?

Remove all the poor white folk from any redneck state and you'll see similar results in the drop in crime rates.

Making it a race issue is 100% ignorant.


And you're also completely ignoring the bigger problem: He wanted to bring back the DEATH PENALTY for UNDERAGE kids FALSELY accused of a crime that DID NOT result in a death.

Right-On !

Paul Markham 06-10-2019 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22482826)
Maybe if we are all lucky you will become a statistic and we wont have to listen to you crying about illegals..

Once again our chief liberal sticks up for illegal immigration.

Paul Markham 06-10-2019 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482880)
Did you know that crime is directly related with poverty and lack of education and has nothing to do with race?

Remove all the poor white folk from any redneck state and you'll see similar results in the drop in crime rates.

Making it a race issue is 100% ignorant.

Getting rid of illegal immigrants will force employers to hire Americans of all colours at a decent wage. Partly solving the problem.

Paul Markham 06-10-2019 08:21 AM

The guy defending the illegal immigrants got off lightly. Illegal immigrants are those who can't get a visa to America, so relaxing the system more means more criminals come in or makes no difference and they still come.

Also reporting the crime doesn't lower the crime rate by much, the reporting is after the crime has been committed. But that escaped him completely.

He couldn't say, stopping more at the border reduces the numbers of illegal immigrants.

Now what does this amount to when t comes to cost? Figure in policing, detection, trials, prison costs. Is it as much as $5billion?

Paul Markham 06-10-2019 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482854)
Must be nice to cherry pick any bit of information that you want that comes from a source that caters to people with a specific pre-established point of view and call it a fact.

I wish I lived in that fantasy world.

The figures you claim were cherry picked were from your government. Maybe you are in a fantasy world and don't know it.

VRPdommy 06-10-2019 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22482923)
Getting rid of illegal immigrants will force employers to hire Americans of all colours at a decent wage. Partly solving the problem.

They can do that/remove the motivation as it is. But there is no willpower to do so.
Company's like the cheap labor. Not going to happen.
They could fix this tomorrow if they wanted to.
Nobody would come if they could not be hired. Just one track to fix this.

It's not just the cost of labor in wage, it is labor safety laws that would cost them. Something a person who may be deported is unlikely to say anything about. It's slavery of a different type.

It is true that Americans do not want most of those jobs and it's because they pay squat.
So why are minimum wage laws seemingly exempt for these folks... could be yet one other fix. They hire them as independent contractors where labor rules do not apply as a contract and their origin/legal status does not matter.

They have legislated these methods to make it all legal for many of these company's on the idea that nobody wants to do the work.

They are doing everything but the logical because they want it to be this way. no matter what they say for political gain. The right had 2 years to make changes that would be effective and did nothing. How can they speak with authority on the issue now.
It works better politically to do nothing and get donors and blame the left for it.

That is the problem here no matter what they say or how you think about it.

PR_Glen 06-10-2019 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22482869)
Did you know if you removed all the brown people out of NYC you would remove 93% - 97% of rapes robberies and murders? And after seeing those stats, is it really a stretch to think they did the crime?

If you could get past a headline or a meme you may understand what a cherry picked stat was.

Maybe you would be more self aware of how obsessing about politics 24/7 is actually ruining your life more, not less than it is and you should spend your time doing something more productive instead? Maybe even spending more time with family and friends would be enough?

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22483013)
Maybe even spending more time with family and friends would be enough?

I doubt he has either. His type of personality tends to drive people away.

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482880)
Did you know that crime is directly related with poverty and lack of education and has nothing to do with race?

Remove all the poor white folk from any redneck state and you'll see similar results in the drop in crime rates.

Making it a race issue is 100% ignorant.

That is a 100% LIE.

There are poor whites all over the world and they have no where near the violent crime rates of Blacks here or anywhere for that matter.

If what you said were true, All those eastern block countries would have very high homicide and rape rates. They don't. As a matter of fact they have some of the lowest in the world!

Same thing with Appalachia. They have violent crime rates half that of the national average.

So you're full of shit.

VRPdommy 06-10-2019 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22483035)
That is a 100% LIE.

There are poor whites all over the world and they have no where near the violent crime rates of Blacks here or anywhere for that matter.

If what you said were true, All those eastern block countries would have very high homicide and rape rates. They don't. As a matter of fact they have some of the lowest in the world!

Same thing with Appalachia. They have violent crime rates half that of the national average.

So you're full of shit.

Your stats were not 'all over the world' they were the us.
So what areas are you speaking of... please site more than 2... it should be easy enough.

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22483072)
Your stats were not 'all over the world' they were the us.
So what areas are you speaking of... please site more than 2... it should be easy enough.

Boone, NC
median household income : $16,447
Crime rating: A+ {source}

Athens, OH
median household income : $18,428
Crime rating: A+ {source}

Reynolds Heights, PA
median household income : $19,132
Crime rating: A+ {source}

Vanceburg, KY
median household income : $16,067
Crime rating: A+ {source}

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

There’s a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two-thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/...-d-williamson/

TheSquealer 06-10-2019 04:48 PM

https://i.redd.it/z38s60c5nk331.jpg

crockett 06-10-2019 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22482922)
Once again our chief liberal sticks up for illegal immigration.

Says the immigrant living in a 3rd world country so he can take advantage of the locals..

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22483035)
That is a 100% LIE.

There are poor whites all over the world and they have no where near the violent crime rates of Blacks here or anywhere for that matter.

If what you said were true, All those eastern block countries would have very high homicide and rape rates. They don't. As a matter of fact they have some of the lowest in the world!

Same thing with Appalachia. They have violent crime rates half that of the national average.

So you're full of shit.

You're such a piece of shit. You ignore the main issue again, and again, and again to spew your toxic racist views.

Again, the main issue: Donald Trump wanted to bring back the DEATH PENALTY for UNDERAGE kids FALSELY accused of a crime that DID NOT result in a death.

King Mark 06-10-2019 06:41 PM

Lol, yall going hard off fake news.

The real illegals will be minorities soon. No worries.

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22483128)
You're such a piece of shit. You ignore the main issue again, and again, and again to spew your toxic racist views.

Again, the main issue: Donald Trump wanted to bring back the DEATH PENALTY for UNDERAGE kids FALSELY accused of a crime that DID NOT result in a death.

No, moron. DJT wanted to bring the DEATH PENALTY to some PUNKS that CONFESSED to a crime.

So you're whole issue, as usual, is a bunch of BULLSHIT taken out of context.

And I see you have no rebuttal to me owning your dumb ass in regards to whites/ poverty and crime?

King Mark 06-10-2019 07:38 PM

^you want me to post them videos proving yall be planting drugs, guns and murders on minorities again?

Yall ain't doing that in Appalachia.

It's simple, yall fucked up and repercussions are coming.

Rochard 06-10-2019 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482860)
Oh you mean the case were a white woman was raped (not killed) and Trump paid out of pocket for advertising to petition to bring back the Death Penalty so that these 5 non-white kids (4 of them were under 15 years old) would be put on the electric chair.

And he continued to campaign for their deaths even after someone else confessed to the rape of the white girl, had DNA evidence to corroborate he was the rapist, gave a detailed and accurate description of how the rape happened AND was currently in jail for committing rapes that had the exact same MO.

Yes, he continued to campaign for the death of 5 underage kids, even though there was no DNA evidence to link them to the crime and none of their stories made sense. It was all based on "confessions" made after police had sequestered them for over 24 hours without food or adult supervision.

Shit... and people still want to try and say the guy isn't racist? Why not try and convince us the world is flat while you're at it.

This right here.

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22483153)
^you want me to post them videos proving yall be planting drugs, guns and murders on minorities again?

Yall ain't doing that in Appalachia.

It's simple, yall fucked up and repercussions are coming.

So blacks aren't selling drugs, murdering and raping? it's all white cops planting evidence and blaming blacks? And these cops in the poor white communities don't do this hence why in poor white communities there's very little rape and murder?

https://i.imgur.com/2CpsXIN.gif

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22483144)
No, moron. DJT wanted to bring the DEATH PENALTY to some PUNKS that CONFESSED to a crime.

So you're whole issue, as usual, is a bunch of BULLSHIT taken out of context.

And I see you have no rebuttal to me owning your dumb ass in regards to whites/ poverty and crime?

Hey Chucklefuck, here is some more context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centra...Donald_Tru mp

Even when they were cleared he maintained his stance that they should be put to death:

Quote:

In October 2016, when Trump campaigned for the presidency, he said that the Central Park Five were guilty and that their convictions should not have been vacated. Trump said to CNN:

"They admitted they were guilty. The police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. The fact that that case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous. And the woman, so badly injured, will never be the same."[86]

The men of the Central Park Five criticized Trump for his statement,[87] as did others, including U.S. Senator John McCain (R-Arizona), who said that Trump's responses were "outrageous statements about the innocent men in the Central Park Five case." He cited this as among his reasons to retract his endorsement of Trump.[88]

Oh, the Death Penalty for a rape? really? Again, 5 kids, absolutely NO evidence linking them to the crime other than forced confessions should be put to death because of an alleged rape?

You gotta stop taking meth. You're not owning anybody but yourself.

Vendzilla 06-10-2019 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22482880)
Did you know that crime is directly related with poverty and lack of education and has nothing to do with race?

Remove all the poor white folk from any redneck state and you'll see similar results in the drop in crime rates.

Making it a race issue is 100% ignorant.


And you're also completely ignoring the bigger problem: He wanted to bring back the DEATH PENALTY for UNDERAGE kids FALSELY accused of a crime that DID NOT result in a death.

So you have an excuse for murders, they were poor, pretty fucked up. Only one making it a race issue is you!

NoWhErE 06-10-2019 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22483179)
So you have an excuse for murders, they were poor, pretty fucked up. Only one making it a race issue is you!

What? I was responding to the guy saying that if we got rid of all browns, murder rates would go down. How am I the one making it a race issue when the person I'm answering is literally saying: Get rid of browns to solve crime!

Here is the quote so you don't have to scroll:
Quote:

Did you know if you removed all the brown people out of NYC you would remove 93% - 97% of rapes robberies and murders?

OneHungLo 06-10-2019 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22483182)

Here is the quote so you don't have to scroll:

I also posted the source! And that statement is based off of FACTS not opinion!

Paul Markham 06-11-2019 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22483110)
Says the immigrant living in a 3rd world country so he can take advantage of the locals..

I'm a legal immigrant. So fuck you and your defence of illegal immigration.

Paul Markham 06-11-2019 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22482970)
They can do that/remove the motivation as it is. But there is no willpower to do so.
Company's like the cheap labor. Not going to happen.
They could fix this tomorrow if they wanted to.
Nobody would come if they could not be hired. Just one track to fix this.

It's not just the cost of labor in wage, it is labor safety laws that would cost them. Something a person who may be deported is unlikely to say anything about. It's slavery of a different type.

It is true that Americans do not want most of those jobs and it's because they pay squat.
So why are minimum wage laws seemingly exempt for these folks... could be yet one other fix. They hire them as independent contractors where labor rules do not apply as a contract and their origin/legal status does not matter.

They have legislated these methods to make it all legal for many of these company's on the idea that nobody wants to do the work.

They are doing everything but the logical because they want it to be this way. no matter what they say for political gain. The right had 2 years to make changes that would be effective and did nothing. How can they speak with authority on the issue now.
It works better politically to do nothing and get donors and blame the left for it.

That is the problem here no matter what they say or how you think about it.

Illegal immigration would still exist with only criminals coming in.

I do how agree with the rest of your post. Liberals want ICE held back or banned completely, because if you're Brown or Black you are persecuted!!! Then they bleat the Trump separates children from their parents. The parents brought the children in and didn't agree to go back immediately yet what blame do they get for not looming after their children. Maybe we should house families in 4 star hotels so they are looked after nicely while they wait for their inevitable deportation.

Obama had 8 years and did little more, he needed the votes and you're right the GOP had 2 years to enact much tougher measures. But this is a long history of doing nothing with the excuse they only take jobs Americans don't want. And miss out the truth, because they pay shit money.

Paul Markham 06-11-2019 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22483035)
That is a 100% LIE.

There are poor whites all over the world and they have no where near the violent crime rates of Blacks here or anywhere for that matter.

If what you said were true, All those eastern block countries would have very high homicide and rape rates. They don't. As a matter of fact they have some of the lowest in the world!

Same thing with Appalachia. They have violent crime rates half that of the national average.

So you're full of shit.

Stop hitting them with facts, liberals are brainwashed.

Paul Markham 06-11-2019 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22483072)
Your stats were not 'all over the world' they were the us.
So what areas are you speaking of... please site more than 2... it should be easy enough.

So give us stats that prove whites are as likely to be criminals as Blacks. Not your opinion.

Paul Markham 06-11-2019 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22483144)
No, moron. DJT wanted to bring the DEATH PENALTY to some PUNKS that CONFESSED to a crime.

So you're whole issue, as usual, is a bunch of BULLSHIT taken out of context.

And I see you have no rebuttal to me owning your dumb ass in regards to whites/ poverty and crime?

The death penalty is wrong in all cases except serial killers and mass shooting where the perpetrator didn't intent to get killed. In other cases life in solitary confinement or hard labour.


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