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DarkJedi 07-22-2020 03:34 AM

Anyone else got DMCAd the fuck out of by myfreecams.com ?
 
Check out how many top sites got DMCA'd by myfreecams.com

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/21480714#

These assholes - Cam Model Protection - send out DMCAs almost daily (do a "sort by date" on the website):

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/se...del+Protection

My guess is that these assholes use a script to parse top google results and send in hundreds of URLs for google removal. 99% of these sites probably didn't violate a thing. And of course google could not possibly check hundreds of urls for violations manually, so they just blacklisted the whole batch.

This is beyond outrageous. I hope someone sues these assholes for false dmca report and loss of revenue due to it.

vano 07-22-2020 03:52 AM

Who the hell are Cam Model Protection? I see that they sent one of the dmca on behalf of amazon.com , LOL? They send out 12 reports per day.

My site got banned and it didn't violate anything, i'm not even in their reported niche. This is bullshit.

DarkJedi 07-22-2020 04:30 AM

https://CamModelProtection.com

There seems to be a whole network of these "Copyright Protection" websites, that i think pretty much a scam.

Check out who submits dmca's for xhamster.com for example:

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/se..._received+desc

I see a pattern here with fake complains for other sites. They must be using scripts to auto-parse and auto report top ranking urls.

Cam Model Protection
Verified Associates
Creators Ink
DMCA Force
MG Premium Ltd.

And then it's a "merry go round", with these sites keep rotating their reports.

If you ever got fake reported, it's probably them. If not, it's only a matter of time when you do.

celandina 07-22-2020 07:38 AM

Simple.... these guys are clever as any other thieves ....Likely a bunch of former thieves who found a better gig. That being chasing other thieves, thus kudos to them :thumbsup

LouiseLloyd 07-22-2020 08:03 AM

Quote:

Apr, 15, 2019 URLs requested to be delisted 3,350,604
https://i.imgur.com/mN4haiX.png

They must be fucking over a lot of legitimate affiliates with their business - It's nothing more than fraud and plain for everyone to see - it's transparent - published - fake reports - it's only a matter of time before they piss off enough people.

drexl 07-22-2020 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22706124)

They must be fucking over a lot of legitimate affiliates with their business - It's nothing more than fraud and plain for everyone to see - it's transparent - published - fake reports - it's only a matter of time before they piss off enough people.

One solution is to ask the cam sponsor (copyright owner of the promo tools you are using to promote their site/models) to file a counter notice on your behalf.

Petra 07-22-2020 09:30 AM

These guys are the bane of my existence. They constantly DMCA affiliate promo material.

CaptainHowdy 07-22-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra (Post 22706198)
These guys are the bane of my existence.

That was so aptly and beautifully put . . .

RazorSharpe 07-22-2020 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22706114)
Simple.... these guys are clever as any other thieves ....Likely a bunch of former thieves who found a better gig. That being chasing other thieves, thus kudos to them :thumbsup

This is what I mean about you and jumping on your soapbox. You have a fundamental lack of knowledge of the industry you work in.

Did you post here under a different username in the past?

Shoplifter 07-22-2020 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22706177)
One solution is to ask the cam sponsor (copyright owner of the promo tools you are using to promote their site/models) to file a counter notice on your behalf.

Have you ever asked Chaturbate to do this?

I have lol lol.

Slappin Fish 07-22-2020 11:23 AM

3,350,604 URL delisting requests in one day looks like some clever affiliate with bots trying to wipe out the competition on those keywords

drexl 07-22-2020 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22706255)
Have you ever asked Chaturbate to do this?

I have lol lol.

You are correct, cb won't do it but others will. And it makes sense too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 22706267)
3,350,604 URL delisting requests in one day looks like some clever affiliate with bots trying to wipe out the competition on those keywords

Indeed. They can double it up: easily removing competition + charge models a substantial monthly fee. There's a possibility these guys also have a porn site and thus play on both sides of the fence.

rulta.com is popular with models and has a presence on social media. They run a business of profile designing tools for Chaturbate models as well as running bots to crawl sites for alleged infringements.

But the number 1 offender is, by far, BorraTusVideos: no website, a link to a shady affiliate program, and will file against any URLs (including URLs of cam sponsors themselves!) to produce reports in bulk that they charge to models.

RycEric 07-22-2020 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano (Post 22706034)
Who the hell are Cam Model Protection? I see that they sent one of the dmca on behalf of amazon.com , LOL? They send out 12 reports per day.

My site got banned and it didn't violate anything, i'm not even in their reported niche. This is bullshit.

Here ya go...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nlbartvanleeuwen/

https://i.imgur.com/Z9Zqbec.jpg

PornDiscounts-V 07-23-2020 08:21 AM

The list looked like a list of webcam tubes that are stealing models videos. Seems like a legit take down?

DarkJedi 07-23-2020 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V (Post 22706787)
The list looked like a list of webcam tubes that are stealing models videos. Seems like a legit take down?

A lot of the sites got banned for no reason. Their script caught a part of a name on a page, and poof, you're gone.

What's fucked, is that this is all the same person:

Cam Model Protection
Verified Associates
Creators Ink
DMCA Force
MG Premium Ltd.
Onsist

and probably more. I just didn't do any digging, cause ill.

If you are a webmaster: they are getting your sites banned
If you are a program owner: they are getting your affiliates banned
If you are a tube owner: they are getting your legit submitters banned (and your urls too)

Catch my drift? This needs to be stopped. Some very hi-profile websites there are getting screwed over.

Pryda 07-23-2020 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 22706872)
What's fucked, is that this is all the same person:

Do you have proof of this?

They have hit our site (babepedia.com) many times.

DarkJedi 07-23-2020 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22706570)

Do you know more about their operation?

drexl 07-23-2020 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V (Post 22706787)
The list looked like a list of webcam tubes that are stealing models videos. Seems like a legit take down?

This is how they do it: mixing legitimate requests with non-legit.
This is how they get models to trust them and then make them pay a recurring fee.

I am not talking about Cam Model Protection specifically, my comment is generic.

PornDiscounts-V 07-23-2020 12:08 PM

I looked at the complaint above. I looked at the sites. They all had stolen cam videos.

I also looked for legit cam affiliates sites like cambb.xxx, megacams.me, etc and they aren't in the list.

Speigelau 07-23-2020 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22706570)

Looks like Bart must be reading gfy and pulled his linkedin.

AmeliaG 07-23-2020 04:19 PM

I doubt MFC sends those notices, so not their responsibility to address the problem. Usually, if a service DMCAs Google for affiliate sites, they are getting paid by the unfortunate model.

Just send a counter-DMCA, if your content is actually legal. If your content is not legal, you deserve the inconvenience.

Do most webmasters not know how to counter-DMCA?

celandina 07-24-2020 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22706206)
This is what I mean about you and jumping on your soapbox. You have a fundamental lack of knowledge of the industry you work in.

Did you post here under a different username in the past?

NO for 15 years the same and only the same username :2 cents: As to my soap box:?

1) The girl makes her own content ( NOBODY paid her for her content !!)
2) she gives it to the cam company and gets a cut from her content.
3) some time later she wants to get married ( go to Uni, or get a better job) and wants HER content pulled.
4) the cam company maybe pulls HER !!! content , but there is a lot of schmucks who somehow think that they are entitled to continue to smear this girl all over the Internet.
5) so she hires a take-down company to clear her stuff...

... yet the schmucks complain that the content ( now illegal) is somehow taken from them.

Now you explain to me where I am wrong and I will apologize. If you cannot then :321GFY

celandina 07-24-2020 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V (Post 22706787)
The list looked like a list of webcam tubes that are stealing models videos. Seems like a legit take down?

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

celandina 07-24-2020 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V (Post 22706922)
I looked at the complaint above. I looked at the sites. They all had stolen cam videos.

I also looked for legit cam affiliates sites like cambb.xxx, megacams.me, etc and they aren't in the list.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

celandina 07-24-2020 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pryda (Post 22706877)
Do you have proof of this?

They have hit our site (babepedia.com) many times.

... and you claim that babepedia is somehow serving public ?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seriouslee 07-24-2020 07:33 AM

DMCA company that myfreecams uses is called removeyourcontent llc. So this is not coming from myfreecams.

Cam model protection is a company that camgirls can hire themselves, who could be working on myfreecams or any other site. The sites in the lumen report look like pirate sites to me, not saying all are, but most look that way.

sarettah 07-24-2020 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22707356)
NO for 15 years the same and only the same username :2 cents: As to my soap box:?

1) The girl makes her own content ( NOBODY paid her for her content !!)
2) she gives it to the cam company and gets a cut from her content.
3) some time later she wants to get married ( go to Uni, or get a better job) and wants HER content pulled.
4) the cam company maybe pulls HER !!! content , but there is a lot of schmucks who somehow think that they are entitled to continue to smear this girl all over the Internet.
5) so she hires a take-down company to clear her stuff...

... yet the schmucks complain that the content ( now illegal) is somehow taken from them.

Now you explain to me where I am wrong and I will apologize. If you cannot then :321GFY


That actually sounds like improper use of DMCA. She changed her mind so now they are in breach?

There is a contract (either implied and written) between the cam model and the sponsor and between the sponsor and the affiliate.

That contract basically says that the sponsor can use the content from the cam model. The other side is the sponsor makes the content available to the affiliate.

Therefore, when the affiliate put the content up, they had full permission to do so. They have not violated the contract in any way.

DMCA is for content used without permission. An affiliate recording a cam show is probably (depending on the sponsor) using the content WITHOUT permission and can be DMCAd.

An affiliate using content provided by the sponsor for promotion is using the content WITH permission and should not be able to be DMCAd no matter what life choices the cam model has made.

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Brian mike 07-24-2020 08:19 AM

Receive this one this morning and that model will Hit, domain registrar & cloudflare will forward to my hosting and hosting will ask me to removed it :) .

BUT........ Something dosent sounds right in this take down. The model claim to be owner of Camsoda ?

That Georgia hitting my 20+ cam site one by one i guess. Seem like Georgia is not happy LOL

---------------------

Dear website administrator,


Takedown Notice Pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998



This is a notice in accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA)

I requesting that you immediately cease to provide access to copyrighted material. I wish to report an instance of Copyright Infringement, whereby the infringing material appears on a website for which you are the host.


The infringing material, which I contend belongs to me, is the following:

my copyright material is hosted without my consent to your website



The original material is located on my website :1orglaugh:1orglaugh at the following URLs:

http://www.camsoda.com/squirtfountain


The infringing material is located at the following URLs:

https://xxxxxxxxx.xxx/wp-content/upl...ountain-13.jpg

https://xxxxxxx.xxx/tag/muscular/
https://xxxxx.xxx/camsoda-live-cams/squirtfountain/


My contact information is:

Name:Georgia Ploco
Mailing address: 2 tineretului #54,
city: Onesti
state: Bacau
country:Romania
zip:601068
Telephone number:0723151731
E-mail address: [email protected]


I have a good faith belief that the use of the described material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or by operation of law.

The information in this notice is accurate, and I am either the copyright owner or I am authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner.

I declare under the perjury laws of the United States of America that this notification is true and correct.


Signed:
Georgia Ploco
Date:
2020-07-24
--------------------------

drexl 07-24-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22707036)
I doubt MFC sends those notices, so not their responsibility to address the problem. Usually, if a service DMCAs Google for affiliate sites, they are getting paid by the unfortunate model.

Just send a counter-DMCA, if your content is actually legal. If your content is not legal, you deserve the inconvenience.

Do most webmasters not know how to counter-DMCA?

I agree with you. I would add however that it is preferable that the cam sponsor files the counter: they are the actual copyright owner of the promotional material provided to webmasters. Webmasters are merely authorized by them to use those tools by means of non-exclusive licensing.

Actually it is now an important criteria when choosing a cam sponsor: will they help and file counter notices. I know 2 of them who will do exactly that and I intend to spend much more time working with real partners in the future.

DarkJedi 07-24-2020 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seriouslee (Post 22707370)
The sites in the lumen report look like pirate sites to me, not saying all are, but most look that way.

The why did our sites that havd NOTHING to do with cams get hit? We don't even promote any cams - no banner ads, no text link ads, nothing. The niche isn't even close.

The DMCA report in the first post is FALSE and myfreecams.com can be sued the fuck out of, because it was filed on their behalf:

Quote:

Original URLs: profiles.myfreecams.com - 1 URL

RazorSharpe 07-24-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22707356)
NO for 15 years the same and only the same username :2 cents: As to my soap box:?

1) The girl makes her own content ( NOBODY paid her for her content !!)
2) she gives it to the cam company and gets a cut from her content.
3) some time later she wants to get married ( go to Uni, or get a better job) and wants HER content pulled.
4) the cam company maybe pulls HER !!! content , but there is a lot of schmucks who somehow think that they are entitled to continue to smear this girl all over the Internet.
5) so she hires a take-down company to clear her stuff...

... yet the schmucks complain that the content ( now illegal) is somehow taken from them.

Now you explain to me where I am wrong and I will apologize. If you cannot then :321GFY

If after 15 years you don't understand that difference between a DMCA and a contractual issue, then I'm not sure anyone can really help you.

1. NOBODY pays her?
2. I thought NOBODY pays her. But now she's getting a cut.
3. There's a reason why one needs to be an adult to make adult decisions. It's 2020 and everyone knows that once stuff is on the internet, it's hard to get it off the internet. Having said that, if they asked legitimate affiliates to take down their content, I'm sure they would be accommodated. I can't speak for people who use content outside of the affiliate agreement/contract.
4. Again, you are speaking about people using content outside of the sponsor/affiliate agreement as if they are one and the same as legitimate affiliates. And "smear this girl all over the internet"? You do realise that he/she chose to be a cam model. No one pointed a gun at her head and forced her to do it. Re-read 3

Just because a site receives a DMCA does not mean they are using content illegally. On the contrary, lodging false DMCA ckaims seems to be the new cottage industry.

RazorSharpe 07-24-2020 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22707363)
... and you claim that babepedia is somehow serving public ?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fucking hell you have some boulder sized chip on your shoulder. Post some of your urls so we can bow down in supplication to what will surely be a masterclass in public servitude.

JesseQuinn 07-24-2020 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22706279)
charge models a substantial monthly fee

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22706570)
Onsist

I used to work with the woman who started CamModelProtection, def seems like she sold the site as I don't think she'd be involved in what that co has become

find it interesting the pricing difference between CMP and Onsist, monthly plan price the same, the other two options are higher for performers through CMP



Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22706905)
mixing legitimate requests with non-legit.
This is how they get models to trust them and then make them pay a recurring fee.

I am not talking about Cam Model Protection specifically, my comment is generic.

:2 cents:

lots and lots of flat out piracy sites on the list linked in the OP that deserve dmca's. but when actual cam sites and whitelables get dmca'd? they're stealing money from performers and time from honest affs who are just promoting a site within the terms of the sponsor contract

echoing Drexl that this isn't about a pile-on to one site. Borra is by far the worst I've seen though


for any performers reading who are seeking to fight theft of your content, go through RemoveYourContent or get a template DMCA for free online and do it yourself

artwilliams 07-24-2020 02:46 PM

Are these DMCA requests for sponsor supplied content or for cam sessions that have been recorded without the consent of the hosts?

RazorSharpe 07-24-2020 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwilliams (Post 22707654)
Are these DMCA requests for sponsor supplied content or for cam sessions that have been recorded without the consent of the hosts?

For me, the only thing I store is profile information that is provided by the sponsor via API. When the model is live, her profile page will show an iframe with her cam feed, again supplied via API. I get a dozen, or so, of these DMCAs a week.

trevesty 07-24-2020 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 22706872)
A lot of the sites got banned for no reason. Their script caught a part of a name on a page, and poof, you're gone.

What's fucked, is that this is all the same person:

Cam Model Protection
Verified Associates
Creators Ink
DMCA Force
MG Premium Ltd.
Onsist

and probably more. I just didn't do any digging, cause ill.

If you are a webmaster: they are getting your sites banned
If you are a program owner: they are getting your affiliates banned
If you are a tube owner: they are getting your legit submitters banned (and your urls too)

Catch my drift? This needs to be stopped. Some very hi-profile websites there are getting screwed over.

Onsist, DMCA Force and MG Premium LTD are very, very different entities.

Onsist represents a few high profile cam girls then mostly Insta / OF thots. MG Premium is Brazzers, Twisty's, etc.

DMCA Force doesn't really have that many clients, tbh.

I'd think "MG Premium" would give away that it's Mindgeek, but I still question how most of you guys tie your shoes, let alone basic reasoning skills. :thumbsup

RazorSharpe 07-24-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 22707660)
Onsist, DMCA Force and MG Premium LTD are very, very different entities.

Onsist represents a few high profile cam girls then mostly Insta / OF thots. MG Premium is Brazzers, Twisty's, etc.

DMCA Force doesn't really have that many clients, tbh.

I'd think "MG Premium" would give away that it's Mindgeek, but I still question how most of you guys tie your shoes, let alone basic reasoning skills. :thumbsup

Slip ons

sarettah 07-24-2020 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22707671)
Slip ons

LOL. :thumbsup

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seriouslee 07-24-2020 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 22707636)
The why did our sites that havd NOTHING to do with cams get hit? We don't even promote any cams - no banner ads, no text link ads, nothing. The niche isn't even close.

The DMCA report in the first post is FALSE and myfreecams.com can be sued the fuck out of, because it was filed on their behalf:

Lumen shortens urls now, even the urls where the original content is/was hosted. In this case this url in full would show the myfreecams profile of the camgirl who hired cammodelprotection.

So for a counter notice and essentially at court the opponent would be cammodelprotection.

These dmca services will use some crawling bots to search for content. I'd ask them to take your site off their crawlers if your content is legit and is coming from sponsors.

I'll say again though, in the published lumen report there are many well known pirate sites without any kind of functioning reporting system. Some of them even have threads here what to do about them.

DarkJedi 07-25-2020 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seriouslee (Post 22707837)
These dmca services will use some crawling bots to search for content. I'd ask them to take your site off their crawlers if your content is legit and is coming from sponsors.

First of all, the damage is already done.
Second, i'd need to find/compile a list of these crawler dmca reporting sites.
Third, i bet they wouldn't give a crap about adding some website to whitelist.

A good measure would be suing them for damages and teaching a lesson. Auto-submitting 3 million reports in one day is moronic. They can't possibly all be pirates.


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