Serious Question: What is the point of the Covid Vaccine?
 

From my understanding it won't stop you catching it and it won't stop you spreading it so why take it in the first place?

What does the vaccine actually do?

Sorry if my question is retarded. I am not a doctor but I do have a brain.

Your inquiry is not retarded, actually it makes a lot of sense ...

#1 - The scientists can not give a definitive answer whether the vaccine can halt Covid or not.

The same non-definitive answer applies to the now massive Covid variant strains which seems to be spawning from god-knows-where ..

It's just like the flu shot.. It will handle A, B and C .. but D,E, and F.. you're on your own...

There are no scientists here man, you're better off at CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-benefits.html

Well, the safety investigations of the vaccine will be held till 2023. So after that they can tell you if the vaccin worked, or not and for who. Everyone is a guinea pig now. People wanted it fast, so they get what they want. An untested 'vaccin'.

Just like all vaccines, it cannot guarantee that you won't "catch" Covid. It just makes it so that when the Covid virus enters your body (you catch it), your immune system immediately destroys it.

So you could be "sick" for a few seconds or a few hours (technically speaking, though you'd never know it. A single virus has entered your body and started replicating, but your immune system recognizes it right away and kills it before it spreads from the first infected cell to any other cells...)

But in reality what happens is that you will be immune (for all intents and purposes) from becoming anything more than not-at-all symptomatic to mildly symptomatic. Only in very unusual cases would a person who is vaccinated become seriously ill; and in some of the vaccine trials (J&J for example), the vaccine was 100% effective in stopping serious illness - not a single person was hospitalized who got this shot, and zero people ended up dying.

So, you get your shot to prevent yourself from becoming seriously ill. You get the shot so that if you do get "sick" you almost certainly will only be sick for a few minutes to a few hours, and in the worst case scenario, you are sick for a few days with a mild to moderate illness.

To get the microchips into your blood system of course. Haven't you been paying attention?

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no, not really lol.
typically, what is considered as vaccine, is containing dead or weakened viruses, that help your immune system to recognize this danger and make you totally immune to it.

this one, mRNA, is different, is more like a "immune booster".

Depending on the vaccine it will stop you from catching it in more than 90% , if you don't catch it you will not spread it.

So...yes it's worth it.

But, the poster above you said that it won't stop you catching it. So, which is it?

Also, if you have had it before and you were asymptomatic or mild symptomatic why should you get it?

Nanochips. Get it right.

You shouldn't need to IMO. If you've had it before you should be just as immune, or more so, than if you get the vaccine. Only those who are immuno-compromised need worry about catching it twice. Until it mutates so far that our immune systems no longer recognise it that is, but when that happens current vaccines will be useless anyway.

The point is so that the Governments, our 'leaders', can be seen to be doing SOMETHING tangible...

Sure, it's not 100% effective (But what is these days) but by organising the jabs, having people get them, and repoorting the % of people vaccinated etc, it gives the public some sense of hope - That progress 'IS' being made and that they are doing 'something' for us...

This right there is what most government intervention and measures are all about with Corona. It's also how government works with most policies really. Vaccines, masks and closing schools and restaurants are all to show us they are doing something and so we can't blame them for the deaths that will inevitably occur.

They gambled on the vaccine since it's an mRNA type which is a first for vaccines. But fortunately it seems like it is working and will give you immunity for a few years at least. Like Idigmygirls said above, when the virus enters your body you won't get sick or get very mild symptoms if you do. When enough of the elderly get the vaccine then the deaths and hospitalizations will drop. They will also drop because all pandemics seem to Peter-out at about 18 months and then become endemic, meaning Corona will be one of the common cold virus' we have circulating with us every year.

The vaccine will work along with the immunity from people who have been infected already. The reason they say it won't fully protect us is because they want to make sure public opinion is 100% behind the idea of us opening after the vaccine before doing so.

Again they don't want to be blamed for anything and they know we WILL pin anything that goes wrong on them. And they are right.

Absolutely right but I'll also add that they made
a mountain out of a mole hill in the first place
for political gain. They're also using this
pandemic as a way to cease tons of power
and money.

Like it or not, we're communists now.

Micro, Nano, Lays, Doritos... Who Cares????

Chips is Chips.

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Except in the UK where they are 'CRISPS'... :2 cents:

Really? Why do you guys have to come up with a different name for everything?

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What we need are nano bots that can be injected into the bloodstream and go attack various viruses, illnesses and diseases.

It's the fucking 21st century man! I want my Star Trek/science fiction/multiverse/nano tech Borg bots baby!!!

They're counting on the placebo effect ? ?

It's a vaccine, just like any other vaccine.

If you get the flu shot, it helps to prevent you from getting the flu. It doesn't mean you won't get the flu. But if you do, it will be less severe.

Same thing with the COVID vaccine. It should prevent you from getting it in the first place. If you do get it, it will be less serve. If you do get it, the odds of you dying are very slim.

Unless of course you die from the vaccine. Liek all those in the nursing homes.

I have first hand experience of the vaccine. My mom, 70+, her frind 70+ and her brother also 70+ all got the vaccine withing days of each other. Each of them became ill for around 24 hours. It was of course a reaction to the vaccine and is of coourse "perfectly normal" however. I have to wonder if, my fit and healthy 70 year old mom got ill and floored what impact this would have on someone older and more vulnerable.

Picochips

Just get it and shut up so I can go to Hawaii.

The main activity Vaccine do is build immunity in your body against diseases. Yes, you may get Covid ,but with vaccination your body will be better prepared to handle it.

There is no harm in going it. Who knows tomorrow they put a rule to allow only vaccinated people in plane or in dinining

The point is to fuck you up, real good!

Well before believing the "person above" that wrote that.... Look at their qualifications. :winkwink:

Someone mentioned microchips... LMAO... You have one in your hand... Your damn phone tracks everything so... that is not needed. How many of you actually are ever without your phone? Seriously. Christ, I have seen some people have 2 conversations in chat and one in real life at the same time.

Take it, don't take it.... that is your choice. Personally, I'll get it... if it works great, if not and I get covid... well I tried everything available to me to prevent it.

Close to a year of isolation and I am about ready to say fuck it all... bring the fucking covid on.... I'm tired of this shit! Fuck, if covid don't get me, over 40 years of smoking will :thumbsup

I'm not sure I believe the governments will let us once we're all vaccinated, even though they said they would.

:thumbsup

Even with the vaccine there is not single government that is going to
allow us to go back to normal. There are always going to be
restrictions that will limit our travel, how many friends we can have
and how we do business.

To make matters worse, there are going to be millions of people that
will viciously argue that it's the fault of someone somewhere that's
not doing as they're told is why we're not going back to normal.

It's effectively game over.

you having had covid twice doubt you need a vaccine :2 cents:

The real question is why do you guys feel the need to change everything?

We were speaking English first... You still talk English, even if it IS 'American English'...

I just had an email saying when my vax apootment is. It also states I'm "Clinically Extremely Vulnerable" and its given me a code to get priority deliver slots from supermarkets etc... Bit late if you ask me - They could have done this last year... :2 cents:

(The Priority Food Slots / Obviously Not the Vaccine)

Yet in communist china they party like tomorrow does not exist :1orglaugh

What restrictions do they have there now? I haven't read much about China and their covid situation lately.

incorrect..

mutated or not the vaccine attacks the base of what makes the virus so easily spread, the spikes. So it not only protects you from getting it and spreading within you at an impressive number it also makes it even more unlikely it can be spread due to how your body would handle it post vaccine. They are having people still wearing masks and social distancing post vaccine because you COULD still hypothetically infect someone who is not yet vaccinated and very vulnerable to even a mild weakened form of it. But at these rates it could clear the problem pretty fast.

All this stuff is readily available to anyone who can work the internet, i'm really confused why there is anyone left that doesn't have a basic understanding of how this particular vaccine works.

Hypothetically. Not a reason to make people still do things that never really worked anyway.

How do you feel about the possibility that it's effects won't be felt for a generation or more. So, it could make you sterile or make your children infertile?

I'm not saying that's what's happening. Just wondered your thoughts.

The last paragraph you wrote reminds me of a quote.

I'm 56, or will be on the 22nd :winkwink: My days of having kids are done... I am a smoker of 40 years.. so personally, my long term is not as long as some. I believe lung cancer will get me before covid or the vaccine would.

But I hear your concern. I am not a very trusting person in general but when it comes to our government, even less! Dem, Repub... all the same. All work for the corporations and keeping them flowing with money at any cost... even our health. Remember, they made corporations people... think about that when you hear them talking about the "people".

When you think about it..... we are ALL to blame for this virus.

Many companies, American and all over the world, send manufacturing to China for cheap labor. They have basically no environmental policy so their air, water and land are over polluted spawning new disease.

Christ, even the past president... the "Make America Great" president's own daughter was sending her shit to china to be manufactured. HAHAHA!

So, I laugh when I hear the term "China Virus" since we are all responsible for this shit. Even if you are not a manufacturer, you still buy products made in China which further supports their policy.

Something to think about. :winkwink::thumbsup

I got my Pfizer shot two days ago. In two weeks I'll have an 85% reduction in the chances of having symptomatic COVID. By 3/24 (two weeks after my second shot) that number will go up to 95%.

Why take it? The answer is really simple - to reduce my chances of going to the hospital and dying.

Data out of Israel (where they're basically doing a Phase 4 clinical trial using the entire country) says I'm far less likely to get asymptomatic COVID as well. Which means I'm far less likely to spread COVID to other people.

So while it doesn't completely stop you from catching it and passing it to others it it greatly reduces both. That, and keeping you out of the hospital, is why you should get vaccinated.

Oh, and the other reason to get it, is that it gives you your life back. Come 3/24 I can go out and do stuff, meet with friends, go to bars, etc.