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Baltimore 05-25-2022 07:20 AM

you're all old as fuck and being shit on by onlyfans - times up, the industry is dead
 
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

fax machine

KrisKross 05-25-2022 07:52 AM

You're so edgy and cool!

blackmonsters 05-25-2022 10:24 AM

Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

Publisher Bucks 05-25-2022 11:37 AM

If you believe every post on the message boards over the last 30 years, the industry has been dead since the late 90's :2 cents:

Whats that saying... 'Adapt or die' :1orglaugh

Some of us adapted, some of us died, but the industry is still here and has been since the dawn of mankind.

Baltimore 05-25-2022 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks (Post 23004488)
If you believe every post on the message boards over the last 30 years, the industry has been dead since the late 90's :2 cents:

Whats that saying... 'Adapt or die' :1orglaugh

Some of us adapted, some of us died, but the industry is still here and has been since the dawn of mankind.

nah, this is different.

legit industry killing game changer.

own it.

You all better start looking for new jobs.

Retiree 05-25-2022 03:09 PM

Onlyfans is a part of the industry...Duh.

Scott McD 05-25-2022 03:25 PM

Even escorts don't have to do escorting anymore because there is so much more to be made with OnlyFans lol...

Baltimore 05-25-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 23004552)
Even escorts don't have to do escorting anymore because there is so much more to be made with OnlyFans lol...

so true it empowered whores with the ability to make money it took some of us decades or years to make, onlyfans literally wiped out what was left of the affiliate model and changed the game, made it so any hoe with a smart phone can snap a few pics, upload, and get her army of simps to spend $

it's fucking insane

what about 2257 and all of that shit??? Of models often upload content of other people on their pages, how does 2257 and all of that come into play?

All trolling and kidding aside, but is OF going to get spanked hard by the feds one day?

One can ONLY hope!

Baltimore 05-25-2022 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23004549)
Onlyfans is a part of the industry...Duh.

Nah, they are a whole new industry that consumed ours and shit it out of their turd cutters. (inb4 that weirdo poo fuck from the uk)

Baltimore 05-25-2022 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23004463)
Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

sheeeeeeeeeeit:1orglaugh

Baltimore 05-25-2022 04:19 PM

All kidding and trolling aside, anyone wanna touch tips tho? (askin 4 a friend)

TFT (tip for tip)

Baltimore 05-25-2022 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 23004552)
Even escorts don't have to do escorting anymore because there is so much more to be made with OnlyFans lol...

yo my nigga my ancestral home is glasgow G, my great great grand niggas imported themselves from there to baltimore like 200 year ago you heard me family

we them scottish baltimore niggas (fo li)

plsureking 05-25-2022 10:48 PM

OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.

they brought millions of models into the industry. they got tens of millions of freeloaders to open their wallets.

OF is a marketplace. its poorly designed and impersonal. all these models still want their own site, where they own the content rights and members, and they want to earn more per member.

OF payouts aren't great, and they can lock a model out at any time for all sorts of reasons. that puts a model out of business in an instant. just like cam models, OF models need to be securing their business with their own paysite (as well as selling on other marketplaces).

maybe OF is bad for tube owners, but its been great for the paysite business. PornCMS gets new site owner accounts every week.

welcome to GFY nube! :1orglaugh
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gar 05-25-2022 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23004628)
OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.

they brought millions of models into the industry. they got tens of millions of freeloaders to open their wallets.

OF is a marketplace. its poorly designed and impersonal. all these models still want their own site, where they own the content rights and members, and they want to earn more per member.

OF payouts aren't great, and they can lock a model out at any time for all sorts of reasons. that puts a model out of business in an instant. just like cam models, OF models need to be securing their business with their own paysite (as well as selling on other marketplaces).

maybe OF is bad for tube owners, but its been great for the paysite business. PornCMS gets new site owner accounts every week.

welcome to GFY nube! :1orglaugh
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Well said.

lock 05-26-2022 01:27 AM

Yes and they were good old days so why did you join since hey days over?

PorcoRosso 05-26-2022 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23004628)
OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.
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:pimp :kisskiss

OF is growing the models marketplace by empowering them, teaching them marketing... it's educating our users in the sense that now they're ok to pay for (a special type of) porn and not always get it for free.
OF is hiding porn behind loginwalls and paywalls which pleases regulators and censors...

Making the market bigger and more educated is only great news.

And yes OF is a marketplace, there's for now a good space for models to be profitable but competition is getting fiercer every day... I think we all witness the drastic improvement of quality that's being produced by models based in Tier 2 and Tier 3 countries... Imho that's going to become a game changer for models and it will push everyone up into quality content production, and quality relationship creations.


We can foresee a future with more legal, paid porn... and more customers of it... what else could we dream of :) ? There won't be better opportunities, so go get it ;)

DVTimes 05-26-2022 04:31 AM

The key is to make better content than models do on onlyfans.

LouiseLloyd 05-26-2022 05:40 AM

What about when the inevitable happens and Onlyfans ditch adult?

Baltimore 05-26-2022 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23004628)
OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.

welcome to GFY nube! :1orglaugh
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You mean welcome back? I am the founder of the PBBC.

avn com/galleries/internext-affil4you-bowling-suite-hard-rock-hotel-vegas-617322

8th pic

Baltimore 05-26-2022 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorcoRosso (Post 23004700)
:pimp :kisskiss

OF is growing the models marketplace by empowering them, teaching them marketing... it's educating our users in the sense that now they're ok to pay for (a special type of) porn and not always get it for free.
OF is hiding porn behind loginwalls and paywalls which pleases regulators and censors...

Making the market bigger and more educated is only great news.

And yes OF is a marketplace, there's for now a good space for models to be profitable but competition is getting fiercer every day... I think we all witness the drastic improvement of quality that's being produced by models based in Tier 2 and Tier 3 countries... Imho that's going to become a game changer for models and it will push everyone up into quality content production, and quality relationship creations.


We can foresee a future with more legal, paid porn... and more customers of it... what else could we dream of :) ? There won't be better opportunities, so go get it ;)

You're all full of shit, OF has done nothing but saturate traffic generation methods, saturate forms of monetization and create millions of competitors.

DVTimes 05-26-2022 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23004720)
What about when the inevitable happens and Onlyfans ditch adult?


Or they close due to xy or z.

There are other platforms such as fancentro.

But also such as patreon would make a fortune, and there was talk of twitter offering a private content thing too.

Baltimore 05-26-2022 06:01 AM

No one answered this question - how is it possible that anyone can signup with of, upload content of their sex partners, and not have 2257's signed and legal documentation? Furthermore, pardon my potential ignorance on the subject but I have always been under the impression that there is only one state in the US where it is legal to film pornography (California).

Baltimore 05-26-2022 06:03 AM

I can't believe people are bringing up "empowering models" as a point, are you serious? Yes they are empowered so much that they no longer need any of us!

LouiseLloyd 05-26-2022 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltimore (Post 23004730)
No one answered this question - how is it possible that anyone can signup with of, upload content of their sex partners, and not have 2257's signed and legal documentation?

You need to provide ID and model release all other participants in your content, exactly like cam sites.

The only way around the above is by the model in your content already possessing a verified creator account then you can tag them, so that if the poster does not have permission of the model they will be made aware and take the appropriate action.

Onlyfans periodically review all accounts and will remove breaching content and request third party model realise and ID of any participants they see in your content, otherwise it gets deleted within 24 hours.

Thats my experience and that was even after I had supplied all participants ID and model releases, which would lead me to believe they are overly cautious.

DVTimes 05-26-2022 06:06 AM

Onlyfans is more a problem for affiliates, simply because they cannot (as yet) promote Onlyfans, and what would the point be, when most models can promote themselves with ease using such as Twitter, and so on.

The big problem, is now some Onlyfans models want to be exclusive to Onlyfans and are trying to get removed from paysites.

The other problem for Onlyfans models is that they are attacking each other, as they see less fans joining them, and they want less Onlyfans models competition.

DVTimes 05-26-2022 06:14 AM

Onlyfans is doing what webcam sites should have done a long time ago.

If webcam sites ages ago had let models sell pics and vids the way Onlyfans does, then Onlyfans would probably never taken off.

I have said for ages, that when a model does a webcam show, they should have offered an option to have the shows saved and purchased by fans. This way models could have made money while not being online.

Onlyfans meant models could make money when they are offline.

DVTimes 05-26-2022 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltimore (Post 23004727)
You mean welcome back? I am the founder of the PBBC.

avn com/galleries/internext-affil4you-bowling-suite-hard-rock-hotel-vegas-617322

8th pic

What is PBBC?

DVTimes 05-26-2022 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorcoRosso (Post 23004700)


We can foresee a future with more legal, paid porn... and more customers of it... what else could we dream of :) ? There won't be better opportunities, so go get it ;)

I suspect we will see lots of sites full of free (stolen/pirated) content from Onlyfans to be honest.

Cameltoepro 05-26-2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23004628)
OF grew the paysite industry, they didn't kill it.

they brought millions of models into the industry. they got tens of millions of freeloaders to open their wallets.

OF is a marketplace. its poorly designed and impersonal. all these models still want their own site, where they own the content rights and members, and they want to earn more per member.

OF payouts aren't great, and they can lock a model out at any time for all sorts of reasons. that puts a model out of business in an instant. just like cam models, OF models need to be securing their business with their own paysite (as well as selling on other marketplaces).

maybe OF is bad for tube owners, but its been great for the paysite business. PornCMS gets new site owner accounts every week.

welcome to GFY nube! :1orglaugh
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I agree.....100%

DVTimes 05-26-2022 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23004628)
impersonal. all these models still want their own site, where they own the content rights and members, and they want to earn more per member.

No.

The point of Onlyfans is that it is personal.

People join to follow and contact people they are fans of.

A lot of Onlyfans top models hire people to chat to the fans (pretending to be them).

Its not the content people are after always, a lot is the contact.

They feel closer to the people they are fans of.

Paysites distance fans as the content is often not shot by the model, and often the model has no say in what is shot.

Fans feel like they are paying the model directly, rather than just give money to some website.

CurrentlySober 05-26-2022 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltimore (Post 23004404)
you're all old as fuck and being shit on

Accurate statement in regards to my personal situation... :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 05-26-2022 08:20 AM

Models are models and it doesn't matter if they are doing OnlyFans, cam shows, Clips4Sale or porn shoots. They are (mostly) flaky, lazy whores who want good times and Sugar Daddies to take care of them so they can party, travel, get tattooes and drink champagne.

Work??? What the fuck is that??? I show up, you pay me, I party.

So this means girls will always need a guide, a mentor, someone to run their business after they get bored, distracted, their period....lol OnlyFans is work, like anything else, but with paysites you work once then get paid endlessly. Which would you prefer? I look at OF as a recruitment platform!

Baltimore 05-26-2022 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23004759)
Models are models and it doesn't matter if they are doing OnlyFans, cam shows, Clips4Sale or porn shoots. They are (mostly) flaky, lazy whores who want good times and Sugar Daddies to take care of them so they can party, travel, get tattooes and drink champagne.

Work??? What the fuck is that??? I show up, you pay me, I party.

So this means girls will always need a guide, a mentor, someone to run their business after they get bored, distracted, their period....lol OnlyFans is work, like anything else, but with paysites you work once then get paid endlessly. Which would you prefer? I look at OF as a recruitment platform!

When they start earning real money, and learning how to chat/sext/generate their own traffic - they stop being lazy whores hence the whole point of this thread - of destroying the business for many people.

The world is ending, for real this time.

The game has changed, for good. Affiliates are no longer needed, paysites are no longer trusted. OF is a household name and brand, customers prefer to spend their money there over our unknown, and untrusted products, the list is endless.

All the naysayers in this thread show me one thing - you are not in the same part of the game that I am.

When I speak of traffic generation, I'm not talking about tube submissions, media buys, etc. I'm talking about manipulating popular apps with automation to generate valuable organic traffic.

It was bad enough before we had to start competing with all of India, etc. Now these dumb ass thots realize the power of spamming, and by doing so, have forced popular apps to lock down, deter and kill methods that have existed peacefully since 2014.

I understand that nothing is static in marketing and things are constantly dynamic however I can see a DIRECT correlation between the pandemic, rise of onlyfans and the storm it caused by making so many people hard up and in need. Said storm created an atmosphere where many were willing to do things that they have never done before (porn) thus resulting in the rise of onlyfans and destruction of my methods.

So as a marketer who dabbles on the fine line of grayhat traffic, I tell you that OF creating 5 million "instant model/marketers/porn content promoters" has absolutely fucked many aspects of my methods of monetization.

I never was mad at any big change, I always was fluid and was adapting but this shit has me bitter to the point where I'm going to do one more big year in adult and say deuces.

Baltimore 05-26-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23004739)
What is PBBC?

Pine Bush Bible Camp

MakeMeGrrrrowl 05-26-2022 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23004710)
The key is to make better content than models do on onlyfans.

Content only matters if it gets seen.

SAMANTAmax 05-26-2022 12:51 PM

No hard feelings

Baltimore 05-26-2022 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAMANTAmax (Post 23004858)
No hard feelings

same, and that goes to anyone here. I like to troll a lot, but getting too old for this shit.

I do hate OF though heh.

I appreciate the responses and input.

Also, really the entire thread is me projecting, talking to myself in the title. :kissy face emoji:

Baltimore 05-26-2022 05:18 PM

This will likely be the last time Cutty ever graces this forum.

plsureking 05-26-2022 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltimore (Post 23004760)
When they start earning real money, and learning how to chat/sext/generate their own traffic - they stop being lazy whores hence the whole point of this thread - of destroying the business for many people.

The world is ending, for real this time.

The game has changed, for good. Affiliates are no longer needed, paysites are no longer trusted. OF is a household name and brand, customers prefer to spend their money there over our unknown, and untrusted products, the list is endless.

All the naysayers in this thread show me one thing - you are not in the same part of the game that I am.

When I speak of traffic generation, I'm not talking about tube submissions, media buys, etc. I'm talking about manipulating popular apps with automation to generate valuable organic traffic.

It was bad enough before we had to start competing with all of India, etc. Now these dumb ass thots realize the power of spamming, and by doing so, have forced popular apps to lock down, deter and kill methods that have existed peacefully since 2014.

I understand that nothing is static in marketing and things are constantly dynamic however I can see a DIRECT correlation between the pandemic, rise of onlyfans and the storm it caused by making so many people hard up and in need. Said storm created an atmosphere where many were willing to do things that they have never done before (porn) thus resulting in the rise of onlyfans and destruction of my methods.

So as a marketer who dabbles on the fine line of grayhat traffic, I tell you that OF creating 5 million "instant model/marketers/porn content promoters" has absolutely fucked many aspects of my methods of monetization.

I never was mad at any big change, I always was fluid and was adapting but this shit has me bitter to the point where I'm going to do one more big year in adult and say deuces.

:waaaaahh:jerkoff

just a whiny failure blaming OF because you can't figure out how to adapt.

meanwhile you are trying to preach to a board of people who DID adapt and DO still make money in this "dead" industry. your methods and skills are dead. that is YOUR problem.

you can't hack your way to profits anymore? stfu and learn new skills. a lot of those people in that 2016 AVN gallery are still banking in adult. Joey Gabra is in the first fucking picture!

:2 cents: :thumbsup no offense its gfy :1orglaugh

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ianmoone332000 05-27-2022 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltimore (Post 23004567)
yo my nigga my ancestral home is glasgow G, my great great grand niggas imported themselves from there to baltimore like 200 year ago you heard me family

we them scottish baltimore niggas (fo li)

Probably still looks the exact same to be honest


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