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davidd 08-30-2005 02:58 PM

New Orleans - Worth Rebuilding?
 
Should the government declare the area "no man's land"?

Insurance companies payout on the losses, remaining structures leveled, and we close the chapter.

Is it worth rebuilding?

dynastoned 08-30-2005 02:59 PM

what would we do without mardi gras?

Iron Mike 08-30-2005 03:00 PM

What is mardi gras?

crockett 08-30-2005 03:00 PM

of course they will rebuild it.. too much money involved not too.. But I think it's a stupid place to build. Any place the depends on pumps to keep water out is a dumb place to build a city.

This will only happen again they have just been lucky for a very long time.

davidd 08-30-2005 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned
what would we do without mardi gras?

Exactly. It will be interested to see what 'value' people list as N.O. providing to the rest of the union (other than the oil rigs off it's shores).

Can we live without the New Orleans Saints? (no need to answer)

Patrick_Bateman 08-30-2005 03:02 PM

definitely worth rebuilding. we need more girls gone wild videos :)

tgpshack 08-30-2005 03:03 PM

well 2 hours ago the governor announced the entire city must be evacuated including the superdome shelters and other shelters. It is no longer a city and who knows when itll become one again. I highly doubt theyll just abandon the city forever.

throwdown 08-30-2005 03:03 PM

if you're serious about this question....

YES its worth rebuilding

new orleans is a hub of culture

loverboy 08-30-2005 03:04 PM

how much are we talking about here, $80-100 Billion? i doubt

:smokin

tgpshack 08-30-2005 03:04 PM

some people say its culture is the reason of this destruction. Some say its a city of sin and thats why it was destroyed.

floridaT 08-30-2005 03:05 PM

Can we live without the New Orleans Saints? (no need to answer)

Who?

davidd 08-30-2005 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by throwdown
if you're serious about this question....

YES its worth rebuilding

new orleans is a hub of culture

I am 100% serious.

It needs to be considered if the area is worth saving. The area was built up a long time ago before people said, "Yo, shit be at or below sea level, yo".

Harmon 08-30-2005 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgpshack
some people say its culture is the reason of this destruction. Some say its a city of sin and thats why it was destroyed.

Yeah, Christian asshole idiots like Pat Robertson... I wish someone would take that fuck out

dynastoned 08-30-2005 03:07 PM

new orleans saints... for some reason that seems like an oxy moron... lol

davidd 08-30-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon
Yeah, Christian asshole idiots like Pat Robertson... I wish someone would take that fuck out

The game has been going his way lately...

God: 1
New Orleans: 0

DarkJedi 08-30-2005 03:13 PM

how they gonna name it ? New New Orleans ? :1orglaugh

Elli 08-30-2005 03:13 PM

Considering the melting of the ice caps is raising the ocean level further, I would advise against building anywhere within a few feet of the current sea level. But nobody asks me, so they'll probably just try to restore everything :)

davidd 08-30-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Considering the melting of the ice caps is raising the ocean level further, I would advise against building anywhere within a few feet of the current sea level. But nobody asks me, so they'll probably just try to restore everything :)

Anyone who looks at this objectively, will see that the $26bil is not worth it. Considering the place is at sea level or below sea level, and kept afloat via levies and pumps.

The city is/was a shit hole with some of the highest crime rates (based on population), political corruption, etc.

When I see the images, it looks like a toilet just got flushed.

Kimmykim 08-30-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd
Anyone who looks at this objectively, will see that the $26bil is not worth it. Considering the place is at sea level or below sea level, and kept afloat via levies and pumps.

The city is/was a shit hole with some of the highest crime rates (based on population), political corruption, etc.

When I see the images, it looks like a toilet just got flushed.

I hope Marie LaVeau reads this board and put a voodoo curse on you ;)

If not, I think I've still got a few things left from my last trip to her shop... are you not getting my emails? Call me.

Penrod 08-30-2005 03:27 PM

Will they call it the Ukrenchian Quarter?

PatrickKing 08-30-2005 03:31 PM

If we are spending about 300 billion rebuilding a forign country that we leveled we should have no problem spending 30 billion on a city that is in our country.

Mr Pheer 08-30-2005 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by throwdown
if you're serious about this question....

YES its worth rebuilding

new orleans is a hub of culture

its also a major oil hub, our government is oil hungry, Bush is in the oil business, and they will do whatever it takes to keep the oil tankers coming thru New Orleans.

The New Orleans port being closed = bad news for Bush's net worth, he wont allow that.

davidd 08-30-2005 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penrod
Will they call it the Ukrenchian Quarter?

Ukrenchian's understand city must be in highland.

This city made for non-Uchrenchians, we no need it.

davidd 08-30-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
its also a major oil hub, our government is oil hungry, Bush is in the oil business, and they will do whatever it takes to keep the oil tankers coming thru New Orleans.

The New Orleans port being closed = bad news for Bush's net worth, he wont allow that.

The port was just made bigger. A city existing there means nothing to the flow of oil. The oil rigs will go back online, as will the refineries...

floridaT 08-30-2005 03:41 PM

-there was only one shrimping boat survive in the Bayou LaBatre fishing district. the "Jenny"

Penrod 08-30-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floridaT
-there was only one shrimping boat survive in the Bayou LaBatre fishing district. the "Jenny"

I saw this somewhere.

davidd 08-30-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floridaT
-there was only one shrimping boat survive in the Bayou LaBatre fishing district. the "Jenny"

There were hidden messages in that movie. Some say Forest, was the modern day messiah. He predicted this.

Might be a good time to duplicate his lesson.

Penrod - Call big man, tell him we are going shrimping.

SureFire 08-30-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
its also a major oil hub, our government is oil hungry, Bush is in the oil business, and they will do whatever it takes to keep the oil tankers coming thru New Orleans.

The New Orleans port being closed = bad news for Bush's net worth, he wont allow that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_6661.jpg

Lots of cleaning up to do! :Oh crap

2257-Ben 08-30-2005 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd
Anyone who looks at this objectively, will see that the $26bil is not worth it. Considering the place is at sea level or below sea level, and kept afloat via levies and pumps.

The city is/was a shit hole with some of the highest crime rates (based on population), political corruption, etc.

When I see the images, it looks like a toilet just got flushed.

What the hell makes anyone think it will take only 26 Billion to rebuild N.0.? I'd hazard a guess to say it's going to take at least 100 billion, if not more to rebuild it. It's sheer stupidity to rebuild it on it's current site. Every year Florida and the Gulf Coast gets clobbered by hurricanes and these perennially stupid people keep living there and keep trying to ride out the hurricanes... it's serves their dumb asses right that they've been wiped out and left homeless. They've been warned for generations that this was going to happen. I'm damn tired of my tax dollars being used to rebuild all of these areas. No, it's not like California... we don't have earthquakes every year that costs the American tax payers billions of dollars in federal aid or insurance payouts which raise rates for everyone.

If these idiots want to continue to live there, let them start paying their own way. Let the states that are affected like this (including those who get flooded out every year) levy a special sales tax of at least 5% to pay for reconstruction and have it allocated to not be used for any other purpose. Just having people relying on insurance companies isn't a fair way to do it because there are many people who simply do not buy insurance or they don't own homes, they rent. A 'disaster recovery tax is the only fair way to do it.

tony286 08-30-2005 04:55 PM

I was telling my wife if I had lived there , I would restart somewhere else ,everything is lost.

BobG 08-30-2005 05:01 PM

N.O. is a fucking disqusting armpit ghetto of a nasty shithole. the best thing that could have ever happened to it just did. As for being a culture hub, the people there are fucking creepy and the food is way overrated unless you're way into cheap hot sauce. Ok the music might be good but I'm not 60 yet. I feel sorry for the people and I do hope they rebuild there so that none of them even think about coming to California.

Rui 08-30-2005 05:02 PM

rebuilding it all over again would be stupid but i guess thats what going to happen...

BellaSeaira 08-30-2005 05:05 PM

I am pretty sure they will rebuild but I don't think I will ever be the same all the historic buildings and stuff are gone. T he history is one of the things that made it so intresting aside from the partys.

DaddyHalbucks 08-30-2005 05:07 PM

Yes, there is alot of culture and history New Orleans, but I think the question of re-building is a very legitimate question.

It is built right in a disaster zone. Sooner or later it will be hit again.

Although the same may be true for San Francisco with the earthquake faults nearby.

davidd 08-30-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
Yes, there is alot of culture and history New Orleans, but I think the question of re-building is a very legitimate question.

It is built right in a disaster zone. Sooner or later it will be hit again.

Although the same may be true for San Francisco with the earthquake faults nearby.

San Francisco contributes massively to the economy. This is a $$$ conversation.

Lousiana is the 6th poorest state in the union, and on a financial review, $100bil would be a lot to spend on a city in this state that is below sea level, and a cess pool.

The GSP (Gross State Product) is: 146,000,000,000

http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/...+State+Product

The state of Louisiana pays $20,000,000,000 a year in taxes. On a purely tax revenue basis, it would take 5 years to recoup the money (assuming $100 bil reconstruction on public works, FEMA assistance, etc etc).

iBanker 08-30-2005 05:28 PM

I agree with the fact that we would lose some culture, but seriously..... LA is a dump

GatorB 08-30-2005 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd
Should the government declare the area "no man's land"?

Insurance companies payout on the losses, remaining structures leveled, and we close the chapter.

Is it worth rebuilding?

Sure then Bush can go on how about how many jobs HE created. Just like his bloated highway bill. Funny I though only communist countries artifically created jobs. Hmmmmmm.

Peaches 08-30-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd
San Francisco contributes massively to the economy. This is a $$$ conversation.

Lousiana is the 6th poorest state in the union, and on a financial review, $100bil would be a lot to spend on a city in this state that is below sea level, and a cess pool.

The GSP (Gross State Product) is: 146,000,000,000

http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/...+State+Product

The state of Louisiana pays $20,000,000,000 a year in taxes. On a purely tax revenue basis, it would take 5 years to recoup the money (assuming $100 bil reconstruction on public works, FEMA assistance, etc etc).

I suspect most of that is from NOLA. Get rid of NOLA and you can expect LA to contribute even less in taxes.

NOLA has an active convention draw, Mardigras, Sugar Bowl, Jazz Festival as well as millions of tourists coming in just to see the place outside events. I see no way they can afford NOT to build it back.

Hollywood Horwitz 08-30-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickKing
If we are spending about 300 billion rebuilding a forign country that we leveled we should have no problem spending 30 billion on a city that is in our country.

exactly! well said..

Downtime 08-30-2005 05:41 PM

Are you joking? Mardi Gras MUST happen lol, there's no other way to say it. I don't care if I have to rebuild the fuckin french quarter myself!

As a bourbon street bar owner's sign read a few days ago:

"We don't run from hurricanes. We DRINK them."


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