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rowan 08-30-2006 05:29 AM

Found another cheating ccbill program
 
http://thsrv.com/p/ccbillch1.gif

No surprise really, they changed NATs (and billers) several months ago and by default fucked over webmasters with existing ccbill links. Disabling any future ccbill rebills was just an extra kick in the teeth.

That's assuming they were not forcibly terminated by ccbill, of course.

studiocritic 08-30-2006 07:16 AM

I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

Napolean 08-30-2006 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

correct :warning

studiocritic 08-30-2006 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napolean
correct :warning

so, fake drama

justsexxx 08-30-2006 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napolean
correct :warning


Nope....99rebills is unlimited...ZERO means 0 nothing nada

Andre

Pete-KT 08-30-2006 07:44 AM

Fake Drama

Gnus 08-30-2006 07:44 AM

Yep I have the same thing here rowan. Looks like it's time to remove some links.

Zarathustra 08-30-2006 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
I thought we already played this game and determined that "zero" meant indefinite?

CCBill?

"(Unlimited) rebills" means unlimited
"(Zero) rebills" means 0

L0rdJuni0r 08-30-2006 07:51 AM

cheaters suck..........

rowan 08-30-2006 07:55 AM

No fake drama. A legit sponsor will show this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Exclusively4Affiliates shows this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Zero rebills means you're paid on the initial signup only.

Gnus 08-30-2006 08:29 AM

Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com

studiocritic 08-30-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
No fake drama. A legit sponsor will show this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Exclusively4Affiliates shows this:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Zero rebills means you're paid on the initial signup only.

Looks like you're right. I don't promote programs that don't cascade.

The Ghost 08-30-2006 09:25 AM

Does it say in their terms that they don't pay rebills on revshare? Amazed that programs (if it's true) still do these type of things.

DutchTeenCash 08-30-2006 09:43 AM

zero means zero

you wont get paid for rebills if youre promoting them - a prg id never signup for

period

tenderobject 08-30-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus
Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com


hmm thats fucked. yotone is one of my sponsors. i have to check my sponsors then . thanks man.

mikeyddddd 08-30-2006 01:23 PM

I emailed Exclusively4Affiliates to respond.

It looks like a Nats account was created from the CCBill info.

PORNPAYOUTS 08-30-2006 01:25 PM

Click my sig... before all the drama about EXCLUSIVELY4AFFILIATES begins...

Digipimp 08-30-2006 01:25 PM

did you know that probably 3/4's sponsors cheat you somehow, so its not really news

mikeyddddd 08-30-2006 01:43 PM

Someone should be here shortly to explain things. They rebill through NATS.

If you don't promote Exclusively4Affiliates click here.

RyanL 08-30-2006 01:44 PM

I see rebills from exclusively4affiliates in both nats and in my old ccbill stats.

mikeyddddd 08-30-2006 01:52 PM

http://eazytraffic.com/gfy/images/ex...affiliates.gif

PlugRush Sascha 08-30-2006 02:00 PM

I've never had any issues with rebills on E4A even after the switch to NATS. I got an e-mail when they switched to NATS, so it wasn't any secret that they switched and the CCBILL links went through NATS and I've gotten signups this way with them.

andrej_NDC 08-30-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAA Ryan
I see rebills from exclusively4affiliates in both nats and in my old ccbill stats.

Yes, it affects only new sales and their rebills, but since they switched to NATS, they dont want new sales through the old ccbill link codes anymore probably(do they still allow affiliates to sign-up for a "ccbill only" program?). So the rebills for ccbill sales before NATS are not affected at all.

Yotone 08-30-2006 02:03 PM

yo yo yo! i never set anything to zero!!! im checking right now whats the deal.

Yotone 08-30-2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus
Here's some more I have found. Doing the same thing

Sexypayouts.com
Yotone.com
Tomaparadise.com

ok, so i check immediatly as well as called ccbill and all is correct...

unlimited rebills for all affiliates for life.

do tell me what you have found. and if you are mistaken i expect a retract of your statement.

Mark_E4A 08-30-2006 02:29 PM

To clear this up real quick

A) The old ccbill account WERE added into our nats system and ALL affiliates were emailed about this.

B) The old ccbill link codes STILL to this day will work (they all get redirected through YOUR nats code and you still get the credit.)
click your old ccbill link then look in your nats admin and you will see the hit
(for those who dont read sponsors emails and didnt see this email months ago please hit me up and I will get you your login info)

C) When the rebills ect.. were set to 0 (in ccbill) there were no past rebilling memberships left (through ccbill ) as this was a cpl months after we had nats running ( NATS is calculating ALL the rebills from all the billers).

Yotone 08-30-2006 02:37 PM

ok something is funky after all here, im with ccbill right now trying to figure it out.

fyi, i would NEVER have set zero rebills, ever.

Mark_E4A 08-30-2006 02:44 PM

ALL the rebills go through nats and ARE calculated.
not through the billers

Gnus 08-30-2006 03:00 PM

Yotone I have a screenshot for ya.

http://www.avsid.com/yotone.jpg

Gary

Yotone 08-30-2006 03:04 PM

well, it seems to be fixed now, i dont know how, when or why it was ever changed but seems it was just a few older accounts.

thanks for brining it to my attention. i dont know what else to say about it but all should be fixed now. if not, let me know.

Gnus 08-30-2006 03:08 PM

Yotone, Yes it is fixed and yes it was an older account. Would of never discovered it if it wasn't for this thread. Figured better check them all.

Gary

FilthyRob 08-30-2006 03:09 PM

Seems to be a dilema. How do you find out your ccbill account number and how to access the ccbill stats if your signed up through the nats program? I have an older original e4a ccbill account, but I don't think that's the one connected to my Nats account.

Dirty Dane 08-30-2006 03:14 PM

I was told by CCBill that (zero) means unlimited.

RogerV 08-30-2006 03:19 PM

We pay on rebills forever

TheSwed 08-30-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A
To clear this up real quick

C) When the rebills ect.. were set to 0 (in ccbill) there were no past rebilling memberships left (through ccbill ) as this was a cpl months after we had nats running ( NATS is calculating ALL the rebills from all the billers).

So why set to 0?
if there was no more rebilling :pimp

Lykos 08-30-2006 03:23 PM

scammers...

TheSwed 08-30-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykos
scammers...

agree :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 08-30-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I was told by CCBill that (zero) means unlimited.

I will give you zero dollars, enjoy. :)

rankscom 08-30-2006 04:31 PM

"Exclusively4..." seem legit to me! We've used them for quite a while now, and always gotten proper rebills from what I see. Now that they use Nats, those cc bill account settings don't apply anymore.

Sometimes things aren't always what they seem...

rabbit 08-30-2006 04:43 PM

a ton of sponsors kill old links when they change programs,but e4a ones work, which is great. mark's a good guy, i'll trust him on this one.


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