The future of the USA in the next couple of years..
 

I predict a total economic meltdown, a 'what goes around comes around' effect of all your world wide bully bullshit with hidden agendas, a further effect of the climate changes which you have not been giving a shit about for so long, and a dictatorship stage (which you are already in but it will be overt). However if the USA still exists after that, and the world isn't destroyed, I see a bright future. You have failed to listen to the rest of the world who have been pointing out things over the last decade, since you think you know it all. The consequences of your actions will get the best of you. It's been the case with every country in the past and it will be the case with you. My advice is to buy gold, and enjoy every moment while it still lasts.

Unless ron paul gets elected, you might still have a chance, if it's not too late by then.

This is of course my opinion and you can feel free to shove it up your ass :winkwink: But I think it's too late to go back now.. the reactor is already melting.

Like we give a fuck what your jealous foreign ass whines about. Go do something productive.

The sun always shines on TV. Try smashing your head into one a few times. Here, I'll help.

Thanks for prooving my point lol

The only point you have is on top of your head. What garden spot are you posting from?

Well, as much as you would like, the US isn't going anywhere. We'll find a way to pull through. Hey, who knows, maybe we'll take the strategy that most every foreign country has used in the past and ask to get bailed out.

We've done it enough before, time to pay up.

sweet i am doing a paper on this very topic

ron paul will make no difference.

Your schoolteacher will not accept WikiPedia, so you're gonna get no love citing GFY as a reference, either.

We are not going anywhere. Please do feel free to under estimate us because there will come a day when you see we were right.

DJ up over 300 points today. Guess it sucks to be a hater.

.. about what ?

thanks for that:321GFY

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bad thing is middle class is melting away .... ( but you must be in the upper class ... :winkwink: )

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Sadly if we just made the countries pay us back the debt would be mostly gone.

I don't LIKE this, it would be terrible to wish this on anyone, but I'm afraid it's the truth.

Sadly if we just made the countries pay us back the debt would be mostly gone.

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Congrats to all the winners :1orglaugh

Yay more American Bashing Fuckheads...

In the near future it will disappear and give way to the North American Union along with Canada and Mexico... one big happy family and adopt the Amero, but I am sure all americans are already aware of that.

I live in the United States, aside from living in a few third world countries for months, I've lived here my entire life. I've lived in Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, New Jersey, New York.. I've seen every single US state either driving through it or staying there visiting someone.

I can say without a doubt that most Americans lack something called "personal responsibility" (including me at one time). We like to blame other people for our lack of vision and insight into the deeper meanings of our existence here.

Let's explore personal responsibility shall we?

Personal responsibility in this world is rare, most people do not have it, nor do they want it. The result of this lack of acceptance is systems designed and put in place to take away your rights and freedoms; since you're not using them anyway why do you need them? You are then left to either complain about what has been put in place or become a personally responsible human, responsible for all of your thoughts and actions and your impact here everywhere you go. If you believe this is impossible then you have either not tried it due to laziness or you have tried and given up. Being totally personally responsible is not easy, nothing of any importance is. It takes determination, will power, strength and a calm assertion to achieve it. It can and will take years to perfect because it involves completely reorganizing your life and thoughts. Who you associate with, what items you put around you, where you live, what you eat, what you buy/consume and most importantly how you treat others. Realization of these facts alone can cause distress, thoughts of hopelessness, anger, fear, delusion and resistance. These things can nearly always be expected at first. Most tend not to get past these barriers because they are too weak to assert themselves. It is not impossible to accomplish, but it will most certainly not be easy for anyone.

Taking all of this into account, we can see in any given help forum a number of users that will ultimately choose no self responsibility and demonstrate this repeatedly in their refusal to follow sound advice, constant argument and resistance to logic even when the facts and evidence are clearly laid out before them by multiple people. Likewise, many people will have stopped reading this after the first sentence and see it as a "lecture" on how they should be or something being "forced" on them. In reality, no one can force another person to do or think anything they do not choose to do. Even at gunpoint you must choose to comply with the demands laid before you or deny them without fear of death, simply saying "I didn't have a choice" is not a valid excuse.

I'd love for all of this to be some fantasy in the world.. but the FACTS are unmistakable the "thinking fearless" among us. I like to analyze, examine and consider every opinion, fact and detail I can find. I am not afraid to question my world and most importantly I am not afraid to question myself for errors and think that I maybe wrong or have the wrong idea.. now ask yourself, can you say the same?

i wish everyone in this thread peace in their lives, well being in their families and happiness in this world. without each other we are all lost.

-opsec

People like yourself have been saying this forever and will continue to say it forever. Sure, all great empires crumble eventually but it won't happen in our lifetime.

great post opsec :thumbsup

I'll bet you 1 goldbar the economy will crash within 5 years :pimp

because......... ?

"Personal responsibility in this world is rare, most people do not have it, nor do they want it."

So you fault Americans for not having it? Sheesh no wonder everyone hates us...
Did ya think we are gods or something?

Sadly, there is some truth here.

We are killing ourselves from within.

We have forgotten what made us great.

Thats why your name is anarchy. People like you are sitting around waiting for stuff like that to happen.

Because im not a conspiracy theorist and because the US has managed to pull its self out of the great depression, chances are it could do it again.

People like me? Keep generalizing everything into little closets. You don't even know me. Most people are not mature enough to live in anarchy anyway.

That said, and while I admire Ron Paul alot, he is wrong about the Iraq war. Peaceniks and non-interventionists are nothing new; for example, there were plenty of them in WWII. What did they accomplish? They delayed and weakened the allies, and almost succeeded in handing the world to an Austrian chap name Adolf Hitler.

Chances are it could fail as well...

I don't think it's as bad as anarchy has posted, though think the US is in for a lot more pain before it gets better.

Na... doubt there will be "a total economic meltdown". There is a meltdown in the homes/real estate sector and that does comprise around 25% of the total economy and a big hit whatever way you look at it.

This is not just about the US - it applies to almost all western industrialized countries. There has been a geo shift of wealth creation happening for a few years now and this is ploughing ahead to be the largest economic powerhouse the planet has seen. There will be a cost to the economies of almost all western countries.

If any nation is not in a good economic situation to manage geo economic changes - they are going to suffer more.

The US scenario is really about debt and, predicted years ago, this is just not sustainable. The home market may have been the trigger for the current problem, but it would have happened either way at some point. Simply put - it is just not viable in the long term to spend/borrow $100 when the ability to "earn" is maxed at $10. The reality is the borrowing is $10 trillion. The idea that other nations owe anything near this to the US is fantasy. The reality is that other nations are owed around 50% of that $10 trillion.

The idea that the election of a politician to magically cure this problem is, prob again, expecting too much of any government. It's a massive challenge to even begin to resolve and prob can't be left up to govt alone.

Meanwhile, other western countries (and a few eastern) are not exactly too different. Several countries have inflation issues and import/export imbalances, despite their currency may be stronger than the dollar at the moment. The difference with most in comparison to the US, is that they operate a fairly rigid fiscal policy and their debt levels (pro rata) are nowhere near the levels of the US.

Bottom line... get ready for change globally. It started happening years ago and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. The best chance of meeting that challenge is to address economic weaknesses on a domestic level and quit getting into a daily mounting debt scenario.


PS Would also predict a further cut in interest rates before year end in the US - else there is a possibility of recession - the consequences of that are too damaging.

I recall some folks saying the airline industry would go bust after 9/11. Now it's hard to find a flight that's not full during the Thanksgiving holiday.

I'm the muthafucka. I don't give a fuck what you say bitch, look into my asshole and see if you see any sins. Pay me one dime out of every dolla you've maid you ig'nant ma'fucka. Gimme ya money, gimme ya money.

America is the most competitive economy in the world with 80% of the world's top 10 leading business schools.

:)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccview112.xml
US will retake economic superpower crown

That may or may not happen EonBlue - who knows? But sure would not rely on the opinions of a political journalist to forecast the future for any country on the planet.

All that matters is the date any action is started for recovery and followed up by evidence of actual debt reduction and other factors. Sure.. at least the last quarter did show an export increase and also good productivity figures, but the overwhelming problem is a reliance on imported product - that needs to be cut substantially, especially when weaker dollars are being used to pay for these imports.

And how the fuck Ron Paul should fix present situation ???