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seeric 01-08-2008 12:23 AM

PIRACY ROUNDTABLE: TUESDAY JAN 15th - INTERNEXT
 
TUESDAY, JAN 15th

10:15 am – 11:00 am
Piracy Roundtable: Real solutions from real producers.

Piracy is the hottest issue in the industry today. There are no easy answers, but there are solutions. Learn how to avoid being ripped off by pirates and what you can do if it happens.

Moderator: Jason Tucker, Falcon Enterprises
Panelists: Allan Gelbard, Law Offices of Allan B. Gelbard
Gil Sperlein, Titan Media
Scott Bain, Software & Information Industry Associaton
Steve Lightspeed, Lightspeed Cash




EVERYONE NEEDS TO ATTEND THIS.

ProjectNaked 01-08-2008 12:28 AM

bump for a great cause :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-08-2008 12:33 AM

Wish I could make it. I'm hitting both AEE and InterNext, but I'm leaving Vegas on Monday since I have biz in the Bay Area on Tuesday.

I attended the first conference, and it was truly inspiring. Jason is very passionate about this issue, as I am sure the others on the panel are, so I'm sure it will be well worth attending, both for getting info and sharing ideas.

Bump for a great cause... :thumbsup

ADG

seeric 01-08-2008 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 13622070)
Wish I could make it. I'm hitting both AEE and InterNext, but I'm leaving Vegas on Monday since I have biz in the Bay Area on Tuesday.

I attended the first conference, and it was truly inspiring. Jason is very passionate about this issue, as I am sure the others on the panel are, so I'm sure it will be well worth attending, both for getting info and sharing ideas.

Bump for a great cause... :thumbsup

ADG

yah, a lot of people think nothing is happening which is what we want. i've been asked what is going on, but we've stayed quiet about the organization. gfy harbors tons of pro pirate scum. we're not gonna show our cards anymore. now is DO time. attend the piracy meeting and see how.

thanks for you attendance at the first one. things are happening, there just won't be any public hoopla anymore.

NETbilling 01-08-2008 12:36 AM

Airek - you should be on there man

seeric 01-08-2008 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 13622084)
Airek - you should be on there man

i don't have the political abilities to be on there, i'd end up cursing someone out.

:1orglaugh

* i was invited by avn to be on the panel. i told monty i didn't think it was a good idea.

JFK 01-08-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13622105)
i don't have the political abilities to be on there, i'd end up cursing someone out.

:1orglaugh

* i was invited by avn to be on the panel. i told monty i didn't think it was a good idea.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

C H R I S 01-08-2008 01:17 AM

Thanks for pulling this one out for special attention...

Anal Hobbit 01-08-2008 01:34 AM

We need a seminar that teaches us HOW to become pirates..

What good is bitching and complaing about piracy? Like we can do anything about it. Im going to internext to learn how to make money. Not to cry about people who do it better than me.

Ill be protesting this one by wearing my eye patch and Pirate outfit.


Arrrrrrrghhhhhh... Yo, Ho, A Pirates Life for me!

gideongallery 01-08-2008 01:36 AM

what no one from the ccia
let me guess it will be another fair use be dam bash fest

V_RocKs 01-08-2008 02:41 AM

Umm... is Brett from Rude.com going to be there?

xxxjay 01-08-2008 02:41 AM

Fuck...I wasn't going to stay till Tuesday but I might have to now.

brandonstills 01-08-2008 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 13622070)
Wish I could make it. I'm hitting both AEE and InterNext, but I'm leaving Vegas on Monday since I have biz in the Bay Area on Tuesday.

I attended the first conference, and it was truly inspiring. Jason is very passionate about this issue, as I am sure the others on the panel are, so I'm sure it will be well worth attending, both for getting info and sharing ideas.

Bump for a great cause... :thumbsup

ADG

Definitely sounds like one I will want to attend. I'll take notes for you. ;)

brandonstills 01-08-2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anal Hobbit (Post 13622268)
We need a seminar that teaches us HOW to become pirates..

What good is bitching and complaing about piracy? Like we can do anything about it. Im going to internext to learn how to make money. Not to cry about people who do it better than me.

Ill be protesting this one by wearing my eye patch and Pirate outfit.


Arrrrrrrghhhhhh... Yo, Ho, A Pirates Life for me!

Hopefully there will be more going on there than bitching and complaining.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-08-2008 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anal Hobbit (Post 13622268)
I'll be protesting this one by wearing my eye patch and Pirate outfit.

Aye, ye been a bitter pirate ever since you lost an eye at your last Bukkake Party...

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/analhobbitpirate.jpg

Let this be a warning to you kids...

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...99/bukkake.jpg

I'll still share a pint of rum with you at the InterNext Bukkake Party:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/bukkake2008.jpg

It truly was a stroke of genius to use the Palms to toss the Bukkake bash at...

ADG

CarlosTheGaucho 01-08-2008 03:58 AM

I'll be there and I 'll cut on the drinking time monday night..

flashfire 01-08-2008 04:07 AM

sounds like a really good idea

L-Pink 01-08-2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13622271)
what no one from the ccia
let me guess it will be another fair use be dam bash fest

We are content producers, there is no fair use issue. It's stolen or it's not.

JFK 01-08-2008 07:16 AM

bump:thumbsup

xclusive 01-08-2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13622271)
what no one from the ccia
let me guess it will be another fair use be dam bash fest

Damn you're a stupid fuck

quantum-x 01-08-2008 08:01 AM

Hey mate. Can you hit me up on ICQ when you get a moment please?
Futhering the discussion we had a while back about my anti-torrent / rrapidshare solution

tony286 01-08-2008 08:09 AM

Man thats a very important thing. Well the highlight of the meeting grabbing someone who helps fund piracy off the show floor and beating the shit out of them? lol

gideongallery 01-08-2008 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13622598)
We are content producers, there is no fair use issue. It's stolen or it's not.


Quote:

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include
and that is exactly the total bullshit type of answer i was expecting.

Mutt 01-08-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13623362)
and that is exactly the total bullshit type of answer i was expecting.

you are an idiot, you are bringing up such a red herring - 'fair use' of copyrighted pornography would be 1/1000000 of 1% of unauthorized use - a university professor teaching a course in a subject matter that includes pornography or a news organization reporting on a story that includes a link to pornography - that's it, the 99.9999999 % is just plain old theft. so why do you even bring 'fair use' up on an adult industry webmaster board.

aren't you the guy who used to stalk one of Lightspeed's models and then Steve himself?

ultimatebbwdotcom 01-08-2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13623362)
and that is exactly the total bullshit type of answer i was expecting.

Seriously dude, trying to tell us that all this stolen copyrighted material that we see is actually there for reasons and means of "fair use" is getting to be the
weakest answer for justifying anything......period.

They're 99.9999999% thieves, plain and simple - trying to convince us otherwise is wasting your time.

Bugbee 01-08-2008 09:42 AM

nice post Airek I look forward to being there!

Phoenix 01-08-2008 09:44 AM

aaaarrrggggghhhhhh

SteveLightspeed 01-08-2008 09:50 AM

I expect I'll just get pissed off and call for public beatings. ;)

seeric 01-08-2008 09:55 AM

February at the Xbiz show will be a surprise for everyone.

tony286 01-08-2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13623581)
I expect I'll just get pissed off and call for public beatings. ;)

A fuckin men.:thumbsup

B O B 01-08-2008 10:20 AM

ive been working out Steve...I can help...

L-Pink 01-08-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13623362)
and that is exactly the total bullshit type of answer i was expecting.

Dude, We are selfish fuckers. All we care about is our copyrighted pornograph being given away for free. How in the hell does that conflict with fair use in teaching, the press, etc.

.

Trixxxia 01-08-2008 10:36 AM

A1R3K - anyone/everyone can attend this one?

seeric 01-08-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixxxia (Post 13623809)
A1R3K - anyone/everyone can attend this one?

correct. :thumbsup

xbiz will be a surprise though.

Jenny S. 01-08-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13622028)
TUESDAY, There are no easy answers, but there are solutions...


Won't be there, not a big convention-animal myself. If you ever get past the talking stage and if there ever is an organized movement in the industry against piracy/tube-crap, etc., drop me a line. I am in.

seeric 01-08-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 13623864)
If you ever get past the talking stage

well beyond that at this point. when the time is right people will know. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 13623864)
and if there ever is an organized movement in the industry against piracy/tube-crap,

there is. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 13623864)

etc., drop me a line. I am in.

will do. :thumbsup

gideongallery 01-08-2008 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13623416)
you are an idiot, you are bringing up such a red herring - 'fair use' of copyrighted pornography would be 1/1000000 of 1% of unauthorized use - a university professor teaching a course in a subject matter that includes pornography or a news organization reporting on a story that includes a link to pornography - that's it, the 99.9999999 % is just plain old theft. so why do you even bring 'fair use' up on an adult industry webmaster board.

fair use does not end at what is explicitly defined in the act itself

backup is a fair use right
recovery is a fair use right
time shifting is a fair use right
format shifting is a fair use right

and none of them are defined explictly in the act

ignoring all of these fair use rights and pretending all of these legitimate fair uses are theft is exactly the type of bullshit i am talking about it.

Include the right of recover and backup and even 99% of the people are
actually downloading the content without purchasing a right to it a torrent is 50% +1 non infringing act.


Quote:

aren't you the guy who used to stalk one of Lightspeed's models and then Steve himself?
nope i beat the lightspeed legal machine using the same "loophole" steve used to hold on to the kinziekenner.com domain.

Steve just lied to cover up the fact that his trademarks aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

for someone who is doing the same thing to "dawson miller" you should realize how much bullshit his lies are.

MrBro 01-08-2008 11:31 AM

ignorance is bliss.

L-Pink 01-08-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 13623958)

backup is a fair use right
recovery is a fair use right
time shifting is a fair use right
format shifting is a fair use right

Get real nobody is backingup, recovering, time shifting or format shifting fucking porn. They are using it and not paying for it. Period.

tony286 01-08-2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13624106)
Get real nobody is backingup, recovering, time shifting or format shifting fucking porn. They are using it and not paying for it. Period.

thank you :thumbsup


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