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tyler (durden) 06-20-2008 11:09 AM

Most Overrated Rock Bands
 
I know I am going to get a lot of shit for this but The Rolling Stones thread got me thinking again...

I happen to think that the 3 most overrated rock bands in history are the following (in order)

1. Kiss (just fucking awful, I simply don't get it)

2. Aerosmith (tolerable before Steven Tyler's voice went to shit)

3. The Rolling Stones (don't get me wrong, I think they are damn good, just not the geniuses they are made out to be and certainly not even in the same company as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.)

Please discuss and add your own.

Kudles 06-20-2008 11:10 AM

Yeah the rolling stones I would have to say too

Ayla_SquareTurtle 06-20-2008 11:23 AM

I've never understood the Kiss thing either.

And while I hesitate to call them a "rock band" I really don't like Tenacious D.

TubeTitans_SusieQ 06-20-2008 11:24 AM

rolling stones for sure, and kiss

PennyLane (not Flame) 06-20-2008 11:27 AM

Yeah you are right....and I will even risk to add U2 to the list....

I used to love them but when I was a student i worked at HMV (a music store...I dont think you guys have it in the states) and U2 was my boss's fav band....I cant listen to them anymore....:2 cents:

s3xnetwork 06-20-2008 11:28 AM

jane's addiction.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 06-20-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennyLane (Post 14354001)
add U2 to the list....

Can't BELIEVE I forgot them. I think they would take number one in my personal "most overrated rock band" list.

The Truth Hurts 06-20-2008 11:31 AM

pink floyd.. the who.. red hot chilli peppers...

CDSmith 06-20-2008 11:33 AM

Overrated? Got to be Oasis. Touted themselves as "the next Beatles" lol

Um, yeah. :D

marcop 06-20-2008 11:39 AM

Rush. All their songs sound the same and the vocalist sings through his nose.

PennyLane (not Flame) 06-20-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 14354057)
Rush. All their songs sound the same and the vocalist sings through his nose.

soooo true!!! blech...

Robbie 06-20-2008 11:51 AM

Hard to say. Music is all a matter of opinion. I look at the list of bands listed so far, and all I see are great rock bands who each were pioneers in their own way. Now if you want to really talk overrated bands I would go more with the "corporate" cookie cutter bands of recent years: Like Nickelback. I'm a member of a Pro Tools Studio discussion group and a guy took a song from two different nickelback albums and removed the vocals and put one song on the left side and one song on the right side of the balance. Guess what? It was the SAME exact track. Just with different lyrics and melody with the vocals! LOL!
Talk about corporate bullshit with no artistic value at all.

Zango 06-20-2008 11:59 AM

Guns and Roses
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rush

Violetta 06-20-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler (durden) (Post 14353894)
I know I am going to get a lot of shit for this but The Rolling Stones thread got me thinking again...

I happen to think that the 3 most overrated rock bands in history are the following (in order)

1. Kiss (just fucking awful, I simply don't get it)

2. Aerosmith (tolerable before Steven Tyler's voice went to shit)

3. The Rolling Stones (don't get me wrong, I think they are damn good, just not the geniuses they are made out to be and certainly not even in the same company as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.)

Please discuss and add your own.

I pretty much agree with you... Though Rollings stones are 1 for me... Though I can understand why they have sold that many records

Andy Servers4Less 06-20-2008 12:02 PM

Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Pearl Jam

PennyLane (not Flame) 06-20-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14354110)
Hard to say. Music is all a matter of opinion. I look at the list of bands listed so far, and all I see are great rock bands who each were pioneers in their own way. Now if you want to really talk overrated bands I would go more with the "corporate" cookie cutter bands of recent years: Like Nickelback. I'm a member of a Pro Tools Studio discussion group and a guy took a song from two different nickelback albums and removed the vocals and put one song on the left side and one song on the right side of the balance. Guess what? It was the SAME exact track. Just with different lyrics and melody with the vocals! LOL!
Talk about corporate bullshit with no artistic value at all.

Thats why I love to listen to indie music (Wolf Parade, Brand New, Bright Eyes, Modest Mouse, the Walkmen, Wintersleep, Bloc Party, And you will know us by the trail of dead, etc...) My parents raised me with 60's, 70's, 80's music and I have to agree all those bands are pioneers and I still like to hear some of their songs here and there (except U2 hehe) its like part of my culture...

Voodoo 06-20-2008 12:06 PM

Stryper
http://totalaxxess.typepad.com/photo...old_school.jpg

CaptainHowdy 06-20-2008 12:09 PM

Coldplay ...

CarlosTheGaucho 06-20-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14354110)
Hard to say. Music is all a matter of opinion. I look at the list of bands listed so far, and all I see are great rock bands who each were pioneers in their own way. Now if you want to really talk overrated bands I would go more with the "corporate" cookie cutter bands of recent years: Like Nickelback. I'm a member of a Pro Tools Studio discussion group and a guy took a song from two different nickelback albums and removed the vocals and put one song on the left side and one song on the right side of the balance. Guess what? It was the SAME exact track. Just with different lyrics and melody with the vocals! LOL!
Talk about corporate bullshit with no artistic value at all.

Exactly, and this is the first real opinion to this topic posted here.
The rest are just subjective prefferences.

Even I hate Status quo for example and I think their music is not listenable unless you feel like a parody or had 10 beers already, they still at least toured and lived like rockers so one of the dudes actually lost a part of his nose one morning cause he snorted too much coke.

Not like the nowadays douchebags with trimmed D'Artagnan moustaches, leather trousers from Armani with an insurance on their ass for 1 mil. $ filling the gap for the young that want "pseudo rock" thing, trying to look "rough" in every lame music video they put up on MTV.

I know what these bands have in their contracts, been there before.

Kiss ? of course it was a great deal of show and promotion, the hairy chest of Paul Stanley and one feet long tongue of Gene Richards what made them, but try to put together as many catchy songs as they did. And another thing - listen to that music through the ears of the time they went big on the charts.

U2? I think they suck ass lately and that they are taking themselves too seriously after having their asses kissed for years, but show me companies with a more recognizable sound and universal impact on the audience as they did with their great 80's albums, especially Joshua Tree.

What band would win my tip for the lamest super popular act?

Linkin Park

http://www.mp3indirbedava.com/wp-con..._park_01_b.jpg

Once I saw that video when the dude is screaming with his semi mutating semi pubescent voice of urgency and there are these shots how the world suffers, that made my choice clear - I would actually recommend them to move their equipment and recording fascilities to the Neverland, maybe if they put together their minds with Michael Jackson they'll find a way how to finally save the world.

d-null 06-20-2008 12:14 PM

I think lots of bands that got bigger due to image or a catchy logo or a fashion trend would fit the list...

ajrocks 06-20-2008 12:15 PM

Led Zep. They are the original Tube site. They took every song they ever recorded from someone else. I'm calling them Led Zango from now on.

Got Porn? 06-20-2008 12:16 PM

1. Elton John
2. U2
3. Bruce Springsteen

2012 06-20-2008 12:16 PM

compared to the music they make these days ... most of these bands that are here listed are gods

kenny 06-20-2008 12:16 PM

Almost ALL of the newer ones.:1orglaugh

kenny 06-20-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 14354154)
I pretty much agree with you... Though Rollings stones are 1 for me... Though I can understand why they have sold that many records

Thats the problem.

Its hard to say somebody is overrated when they can sell out stadiums.

I mean how much bigger can you get? Overrated compared to what?

WebairGerard 06-20-2008 12:29 PM

always wondered if Kiss would have been big minus the makeup from the start. that part was bigger than the music for awhile. remember the Kiss dolls? lol

CarlosTheGaucho 06-20-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 14354247)
Led Zep. They are the original Tube site. They took every song they ever recorded from someone else. I'm calling them Led Zango from now on.

Do you even realize WHO were Led Zeppelin?

One well known guitarist who was a legend in his very young age, one very proffesional musician and arranger and two guys from the worst part of Birmingham that had nothing but soon became legends of their own.

Do you even realize Led Zeppelin were nobodies when they started in UK, that they refused TV play they refused talk to media for a decent while and their ONLY strategy was to play the hell on the stage, to crush all the bands they headlined to get their audience?

Do you realize it wasn't until they hit America that they started to rezonate with the audience and received somewhat a cult following among the "undisciplined and bad" youth, that their concerts started to fill by word of mouth more than anything else? and that they were hated and ignored by the music press of its time?

Is that the way how to become overrated? Of course there is a bunch of people who onlu know "Starway to heaven" but shouldn't they? if it's the most requested song on the radio of all time?

Jeez when I saw Page with Plant after all these years live on their tour and I was getting shivers and my heart stopped beating time from time, is that what the overrated bands do?

Those guys were, are and always will be legends, and they deserve it, I don't see any other view applicable.

tranza 06-20-2008 01:03 PM

Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, The Doors...

kane 06-20-2008 01:06 PM

There are a lot of great bands listed in this thread. It just goes to show that music is subjective. I could argue that a lot of people are way of base with their choices, but that is like arguing over if you like peas or not. If you do great, if not, I can't convince you they are good.

I do have to agree with the Zeppelin stuff though, a lot of people know them as the worlds greatest and most popular cover band since pretty much every song on their first record they stole from other acts. They were recently forced to give those original acts credit on their new greatest hits album. I also agree with the Kiss thing. I have actually seen them live a few times and it is a pretty fun show, but they are so overrated. They basically had a couple of hit songs and were able to milk those songs into a decades long career.

But enough about them. You want lame and overrated. Pretty much turn on any popular radio station these days and write down just about every new band you hear. Today it is all about the single. A band will come out with a hit single and every talks about how brilliant they are and what big stars they are and what impact they will have and then a year later they fall off the map never to be seen again.

Many of the classic bands out there benefited from a lack of competition and a record industry that was interested in developing lifelong acts, not hit records. If Bob Dylan came out today he wouldn't get a record deal (or he would get signed on a small label and never be more than a footnote in history).

I would also say, while I'm not a big country music fan, most country music these days is overrated. I was driving with a couple of friends the other day and first a song came on by a group called Big and Rich. He loved it and I thought it was one of the worst things I had ever heard. It was like country rap. Then another song came on that was kind of rocking. He says he loves this new style of country music that is a little more rock influenced. I said, "You know, I liked it the first time when they called it The Eagles." So I would put many of the newer country acts on the overrated list as well.

lesbodojo 06-20-2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14354498)
Do you even realize WHO were Led Zeppelin?

One well known guitarist who was a legend in his very young age, one very proffesional musician and arranger and two guys from the worst part of Birmingham that had nothing but soon became legends of their own.

Do you even realize Led Zeppelin were nobodies when they started in UK, that they refused TV play they refused talk to media for a decent while and their ONLY strategy was to play the hell on the stage, to crush all the bands they headlined to get their audience?

Do you realize it wasn't until they hit America that they started to rezonate with the audience and received somewhat a cult following among the "undisciplined and bad" youth, that their concerts started to fill by word of mouth more than anything else? and that they were hated and ignored by the music press of its time?

Is that the way how to become overrated? Of course there is a bunch of people who onlu know "Starway to heaven" but shouldn't they? if it's the most requested song on the radio of all time?

Jeez when I saw Page with Plant after all these years live on their tour and I was getting shivers and my heart stopped beating time from time, is that what the overrated bands do?

Those guys were, are and always will be legends, and they deserve it, I don't see any other view applicable.

I agree 100%. Robert Plant is a genius. Not an accidental legend. He = Rock.

GrouchyAdmin 06-20-2008 01:15 PM

Pretty much everything here and: Nirvana. Yeah, I went there.

nation-x 06-20-2008 01:17 PM

Metallica

Magnus 06-20-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 14354257)
compared to the music they make these days ... most of these bands that are here listed are gods

1000% agree!

I see U2 in this thread, any U2 from Joshua Tree (mid-late 80's) onward I will agree with but if you listen the old raw stuff prior.. it is pure original genius. They still have a guitar sound that's never been duplicated.

Say what you will about Zep, musically is one of the most talented bands and way ahead of their time. If you are not musical or don't play either bass, drums or guitar I don't think you can truly appreciate the talent in arrangement and style of musicianship they put out.

mvee 06-20-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler (durden) (Post 14353894)
I know I am going to get a lot of shit for this but The Rolling Stones thread got me thinking again...

I happen to think that the 3 most overrated rock bands in history are the following (in order)

1. Kiss (just fucking awful, I simply don't get it)

2. Aerosmith (tolerable before Steven Tyler's voice went to shit)

3. The Rolling Stones (don't get me wrong, I think they are damn good, just not the geniuses they are made out to be and certainly not even in the same company as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.)

Please discuss and add your own.

Most rock bands are over rated thats part of the deal. But what I think you are trying to say is what are the most over rated 'greatest bands' My list would include:

1. Yes - Lots of talent little pay off
2. Rush - Still trying to figure out why people like them
3. Genesis - Sorry Tim nothing against your Dad but once Peter left so did the ideas
4. U2 - 3 ok records doesn't make a legendary band
5. Journey - Actually I am starting to like them more and more as I get older but I still think most of thier stuff is garbage
6. Kiss- Whatever i may have liked about them when i was 13 has eroded with time and the family jewels show
7. Janes Addiction - Talk about hype
8. Beastie Boys - one great record and 20 years of hype
9. Rolling Stones -Haven't done jack shit in 35 years.they were fucking awesome in their day though and you can't take that away from them
10.Pink Floyd - I actually fell asleep at a concert.
11. Bruce Sprinsteen - wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over rated. Early stuff great, sux now

I can keep going...

flashfire 06-20-2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14354542)
Metallica

as if Master of Puppets/Justice are 2 of the greatest albums of all time not to mention they are one of if not the best live bands of all time



anyway for me its

1.Coldplay
2.Coldplay
3.Coldplay

and so on

kane 06-20-2008 01:41 PM

I have a secondary question for this thread. I've read a lot of responses that say something like, "They put out a couple of great records then nothing since." Or "good earlier on, but suck now." So I ask:" Can you forgive the sins of the present and still celebrate the past?" What I mean is this. If a band makes 1 or 2 amazing records then doesn't do much for years and years, does it diminish the brilliance of those 1 or 2 records. That is 1 or 2 records that most bands would never put out.

Most bands have about a 3-6 year period where they do their best work. There are very few acts ever that maintain their genius through all of their career. If they put out a couple of legendary albums during that high point, then the rest of their career only put out mediocre stuff does it diminish the quality of those other great records?

Here is an example. Guns n Roses puts out Appetite for Destruction. In my opinion it is one of the all time greatest rock records ever made. After that they were never really the same. Lies Lies Lies has a few good moments, but not many. The same is with the Use Your Illusion discs (actually Slash even says if you listen to the Illusion discs you will hear the sound of a band breaking up.) Then they had the punk cover album which kind of sucked and supposedly a Axl is putting out a new album soon (they have been saying that for a decade now) and it is most likely going to blow. So do all of these lackluster followups make Appetite any less of a masterpiece?

clutch_hicks 06-20-2008 01:53 PM

nickelback

Mister E 06-20-2008 01:56 PM

Rush

http://www.totalproductionus.com/images/july_Rush_1.gif


Ayn Rand go home

jollyperv 06-20-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14354020)
the who

FUCKING BLASPHEMY!

Mr Pheer 06-20-2008 01:59 PM

Led Zeppelin
Rush
Pink Floyd
Nirvana
Linkin Park

Anytime those come on the radio, I switch to another stations and listen to commercials


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