Microsoft Calls Vista Haters Bluff
 

Microsoft has a secret new operating system they're showing to XP-using Vista haters, reports Cnet's Ina Fried. Codenamed "Mojave," over 90 percent of the focus groups in San Francisco loved it, with at least one moved to effuse, "Oh wow," while using it. When can you get hold of this wondrous new operating system? Right now. Mojave is actually just plain ol' Windows Vista.

Pwn3d!

Yeah most people are just a bunch of sheep hating on Vista without even trying it. I'm glad I didn't listen to other people and decided to try it out myself... I really like Vista.

Very idiotic article. How can you love or hate the system if you were not working on it at least a few week, not tried to run your applications etc.

"Microsoft has a secret new operating system they're showing to XP-using Vista haters" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There is another bunch of sheep that loved Vista even after trying it :winkwink:

I'm glad I didn't listen to other people and decided to try it out myself... Vista is a piece of shit. I really like XP.

FUCK IT ALL! Ubuntu Rocks! lol

I fought with vista for about a year. Even waited for SP1. At least 3 of my programs I use daily didn't work on vista. Moving large files over the network took forever, and if I wanted a pretty interface I'd use a mac. Best thing I did was get rid of visa and load XP on my laptop (set to classic windows look).

Sounds like the old coke classic switcheroo

The poeple who say Vista sucks are the people who install any software that promises it speeds up your PC 10 times and click on any virus warning popup they see on their screen..

VISTA DOESNT SUCK ITS YOU WHO MAKES IT SUCK! SIMPLE..

Ok vista has one annoyance they excluded the dos prompt telnet client :( why o why?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You must not use virtualdubmod and AviSynth or move large DV or HDV files across your network. And talk about popups????? - UAC would ask me twice every time I wanted to move a jpg from one folder to another. Vista was not designed for power users at all. It might be good for grandmas who want to answer emails and see pictures of their grandkids, but I love my grandma more then that.

what kind of idiots did they have in this focus group?

i've used vista quite a bit, and i can't stand it. it's setup all wrong, made for idiots to use, and it is a fucking PIG on resources.

microsoft has an amazing way of "fixing" what's not broken. if they really wanted to release a new OS, there are many issues they could have addressed with XP, but instead just decided to plop out another steaming hot load. it's like windows ME all over again.

+1 for my post.

Absolutely correct.

Oh yeah... I forgot about one of my biggest complaints about vista - how my hard drive would run all the time while vista "optimized it" for me. I wouldn't touch my computer for 1/2 hour + and I'd come back and my hard drive light would still be on full blast. :error

It is made for power users because you can disable those extra security popups etc...

Actually with a little tweaking it can be all like XP and better..

But unfortunatly people don't take the time to get to know the OS their using.. They install it see something they don't like and call out it SUCKS..

very sad.

Disable the scheduled defrag wat is on by default. Sheeez !

LOL "power dude", go and disable built-in DRM first :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you can polish a turd any way you want. it's still a turd.

Like XP didnt have built in DRM in media player..

I did disable UAC and the defrag, and I tried to use it for almost a year. I turned off Aero before I even ran it (I still don't have a clue what it even looks like). Believe me... I know how to tweak an OS.

It didn't run the programs I use daily and network traffic is SLOW - Nothing will make it like XP when those two things are why I hated it. If Vista works great for you then more power to you! Keep using it, but I have to ask:

Tell me exactly why you think a power user would have to TURN OFF defrag instead of RUNNING defrag? A power user knows when to defrag their HD. A grandma doesn't. Isn't that the complete opposite of what a power user would want?

Exactly! a power user knows when to defrag so he should turn the scheduled task off as he knows to run it once in a while.. an old granny wouldn't know this and she would never run it thus making her pc slower and slower. So its scheduled by default so granny doesn't run into problems later on..

Ok, never mind. We obviously have very different meanings for power user. Enjoy Vista! :thumbsup

Thank you :)

Hope you will do sometime later. All i'm trying to say is.. its really not that bad for a new OS. Remember the problems XP had when it first came out. Vista might not be perfect but its a whole lot better then when XP came first out. MS could have some credit for that atleast.

Vista has a different coding base with a higher level of integrated security. as well as features which allow it to streamline its use of the hardware. It's a complete overhaul of the way that Windows handled programs and data. In short, program compatibility was expected.

If you had run the Microsoft Upgrade Advisor when your system had XP, you would have known what programs were incompatible.

The MUA, HCL and the SCL were on the Vista website months before it was released. Despite that fact, people just expected things to work out of the box, which is impossible unless Microsoft became proprietary like Apple and tightened the reins around developers necks in the same way.

With freedom to install as you please comes the responsibility to do your research.

Solution here, which was included in a downloadable patch when Vista came out. (bviously included in SP1)

That issue did not affect mainstream users to a significant degree at all, btw.

Microsoft sucks. I don't like their software but it's a monopoly, why do you believe they ended up before an antitrust court and got fined hunreds of millions in the EU?

Windows Vista is amazing.. I'm using it right now. Oh, gotcha it's actually Fedora. Expect my commercial soon

Microsoft is to OS, what IBM was to computers and ATT to telecom.

My laptop came with Vista, so I didn't have a choice of running the upgrade advisor. I waited until SP1 came out and used it for almost a month before formating my drive and installing XP. SP1 did NOT speed up the network to XP levels. It was faster then before SP1, but not even close to XP. I'm NOT a mainstream user. I'm sure for them Vista is just fine.

Microsoft will do fine as long as the NSA is their "security consultant". It's called a "roof" in Russian business.

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Read this: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html

Listen DRM works this way...

Providers of blueray disc have 2 options

option1: when DRM is found play it DRM protected if not found don't play at all

option2: play always even if DRM is not found.

So first of all the option to use or not to use DRM is up to the disc provider

Second:
Vista provides a basic for Software media player to use their built in DRM system.. So what happends is you insert the blueray disc the blueray disc says to the software player it wants DRM otherwise don't play.. the software player then asks the OS what kind of DRM it has available and Vista will respond on this mather I have this one.. If its all green light it will play.. If its not green light the blue ray disc doesn't play..

The same thing happends on XP or Ubuntu or whatever.. The difference is that Vista has a built in system which software players can use, so they don't have to build this themselves.. A big plus for developers :thumbsup

So as you can see the built in DRM of Vista is only an extra for Software player developers to use and has nothing negative to it as it is something that is also being used on XP or Ubuntu or whatever only there the software developers have to build the DRM system themselves.


DRM is a bad thing for the illegal torrent downloaders.. but for content providers its a good thing and its very good vista helps making DRM become even more standard by offering it built in their OS.

What a great operating system. Still to date Microsoft hasn't yet fixed the bug that makes it impossible to delete files in a folder, if that folder contains certain AVI files.

An operating system unable to delete files! Geeesh!

Typical for MS to just launch a PR-campaign instead of fixing their shit..

Now thats a surprise. Not.

Does windows xp stopped to work ?It does not.So in that case there is no any need for upgrading to vista.Only reason for that could be winfps,but since they didnt installed it in vista...There is simply no sense for upgrade.

What a retarded thing to say, i assume you drive a horse and chariot and live in a hut, as well as using leaches to solve 90% your illnesses.

What a load of crap. I ran Vista for a few weeks before I could no longer take all of its very obvious and well documented flaws. :mad:

Nice info!

:2 cents:

Vista gets slower and slower for every day you use it, it sucks so fucking much

Vista is OK. Nothing more.

Fuck XP Ill wait for sp4 to come out. Im going to stick with win 98 until then. :2 cents: