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  • abostonboy
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 132

    #1

    SegPay is processing for Tubes Sites with stolen content now?

    http://www. boyztube.com/

    I mean wtf? Some of the big names - NaughtyAmerica, Nasty Dollars have tons of their content on there as well as just about every other site.

    So, is that how you get in the biz.

    1. Buy Clip Share
    2. Buy some memberships to paysites and rip the content.
    3. Ask Seg Pay to process.

    This is way to easy.
  • Carmine Raguso
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 2158

    #2
    Not fucking cool at all

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    • Tube Ace
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      • Nov 2008
      • 4941

      #3
      I sale legal tube script

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      • Shoplifter
        Richest man in Babylon
        • Jan 2002
        • 5847

        #4
        I doubt Segpay is aware of what's going on. They usually pay pretty close attention to content.
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        • djdez
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          • Dec 2002
          • 224

          #5
          Do Something Segpay

          Segpay has shown a tolerance for illegal tube sites. Its time for them to stop or get sued. Safe Harbor does have its limits.
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          • abostonboy
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            • Mar 2003
            • 132

            #6
            Originally posted by Shoplifter
            I doubt Segpay is aware of what's going on. They usually pay pretty close attention to content.
            They are well aware of this. Trust me. Well aware.

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            • getreal
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2005
              • 112

              #7
              Our Compliance Department is working already on it. Webmaster had removed videos that were questioned. If you see any others, please email links to [email protected] or [email protected] and Segpay will make sure all of them are removed from that website.

              Thank you.
              Jakub Krawczyk
              Sales Director
              SegPay
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              Direct:1-954-688-3564
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              • abostonboy
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                • Mar 2003
                • 132

                #8
                You are correct that some were removed, only to be uploaded within 12 hours later. At what point is enough enough?

                Have you been ever remotely proactive on this and checked to see if any of the other 1,000s of videos are used legally? Checked to see if the webmaster is 2257 compliant or is in compliance with Visa regs?

                Some of those boys look really young.

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                • djdez
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 224

                  #9
                  perhaps the best course of action is to go directly to segpays merchant banks. demonstrate that they are not following visa guidelines. it would suck for legit business that process with them if segpay lost their ability to process, but at least that would remove one more shady processor.

                  Segpay, you can not continue to process for pirate websites and say well they removed the videos when you sent the dmca's. It is clear this site is using illegallly obtained content. its clear their entire site is like this. stop processing for tube sites. plain and simple. I guess you will not learn until you are slapped with lawsuits. Anyone that is processing with Segpay I urge you to stop processing with them, as it would just suck to wake up one morning and your processor is shut down.
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                  • Webmaster Army
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 236

                    #10
                    Originally posted by abostonboy
                    You are correct that some were removed, only to be uploaded within 12 hours later. At what point is enough enough?

                    Have you been ever remotely proactive on this and checked to see if any of the other 1,000s of videos are used legally? Checked to see if the webmaster is 2257 compliant or is in compliance with Visa regs?

                    Some of those boys look really young.
                    Hi, I don't like the current laws any more than you do but to keep your service provider status you absolutely are not allowed to be proactive on any of it. DMCA has a process, all you can do is follow it and lobby to change the law.
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                    • Webmaster Army
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Originally posted by djdez

                      It is clear this site is using illegallly obtained content.
                      This is why there is a process in place. All it would take is one person with an agenda to wreak havoc.
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                      • abostonboy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 132

                        #12
                        It's NOT a DMCA process. It's keeping sites in compliance with VISA regulation. Not rocket science.

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                        • abostonboy
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 132

                          #13
                          Originally posted by djdez
                          as it would just suck to wake up one morning and your processor is shut down.
                          Anyone remember DMR and Ibill (not pun intended )?

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                          • JimmiDean
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                            • Nov 2004
                            • 3433

                            #14
                            Simple pathetic.
                            My God there's Porn on here!

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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #15
                              Originally posted by getreal
                              Our Compliance Department is working already on it. Webmaster had removed videos that were questioned. If you see any others, please email links to [email protected] or [email protected] and Segpay will make sure all of them are removed from that website.

                              Thank you.
                              It should be the webmaster has been told if any more pirated content is found they will lose their processing. The most militant christian is not half the enemy to this industry as it is to itself.Very sad.

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                              • abostonboy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 132

                                #16
                                Yeah. A Video is now on the front page with the title -

                                Webcam - 16Yo Blond Boy Jo In Bath (10 Min)

                                So, they are processing for child porn now?

                                I bet signups are going through the roof now.

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                                • abostonboy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 132

                                  #17
                                  Anyone know who to report CP to? Or does Visa allow this now?

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                                  • abostonboy
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 132

                                    #18
                                    Anyone know where to report this? Anyone?

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                                    • Manowar
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                                      • Dec 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by abostonboy
                                      Anyone know where to report this? Anyone?
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                                      • Half man, Half Amazing
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                                        • Feb 2008
                                        • 372

                                        #20
                                        Segpay to tube site:

                                        *slap on wrist*

                                        "Now don't you do that again mister or else I'll be vewwy vewwy angwee with you and I'll slap your wist again!"

                                        There is no blacklist in our industry. Whores!
                                        Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                        • kowalsky
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 2494

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by getreal
                                          Our Compliance Department is working already on it. Webmaster had removed videos that were questioned. If you see any others, please email links to [email protected] or [email protected] and Segpay will make sure all of them are removed from that website.

                                          Thank you.
                                          Well done! Please take care of your company reputation and our business!
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                                          • fuzebox
                                            making it rain
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 22352

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by abostonboy
                                            So, is that how you get in the biz.

                                            1. Buy Clip Share
                                            2. Buy some memberships to paysites and rip the content.
                                            3. Ask Seg Pay to process.

                                            This is way to easy.
                                            Right, you should try it, I bet you'll have 900k uniques by monday! It's really really easy!

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                                            • fuzebox
                                              making it rain
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 22352

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by abostonboy
                                              Have you been ever remotely proactive on this and checked to see if any of the other 1,000s of videos are used legally? Checked to see if the webmaster is 2257 compliant
                                              This is not the billing company's responsibility

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                                              • abostonboy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 132

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by getreal
                                                If you see any others, please email links to [email protected] or [email protected] and Segpay will make sure all of them are removed from that website.

                                                Thank you.
                                                Ok. let's see how long it takes you to remove the video of the 16 year old jerking off on the front page.

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                                                • abostonboy
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 132

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                  This is not the billing company's responsibility
                                                  Is it the billing company's responsibility to do anything when it says,

                                                  "Webcam - 16Yo Blond Boy Jo In Bath (10 Min)"
                                                  and then shows a 10 minute video?

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                                                  • seeandsee
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                      This is not the billing company's responsibility
                                                      But it is the billing companies responsibility after being made aware that there is content that doesnt belong to the site owner. To tell the site owner this happens again you are gone.

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                                                      • GrouchyAdmin
                                                        Now choke yourself!
                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                        • 12085

                                                        #28
                                                        I sent this thread to Kristi before I read Jakub's reply. I r speshul.

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                                                        • abostonboy
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 132

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                          But it is the billing companies responsibility after being made aware that there is content that doesnt belong to the site owner. To tell the site owner this happens again you are gone.
                                                          True. MOST processors do that. Safe Harbor has limits and there is a clause about "repeat infringers"

                                                          But the child porn would put a nail in the coffin for most processors.

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                                                          • abostonboy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 132

                                                            #30
                                                            You know what -

                                                            It REALLY sucks that in order to find illegal use of your content on a site that you have to wade through child porn just to get the damn links to send to SegPay. (yet again!) Something is wrong with this picture.

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                                                            • fris
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 55679

                                                              #31
                                                              segpay is trash
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                                                              • CIVMatt
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                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                • 13075

                                                                #32
                                                                Tubes are the wave of the future, you better get on board
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                                                                • djdez
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 224

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                  This is not the billing company's responsibility
                                                                  It is the billing companies responsibility that once a DMCA comes in to request the 2257 records. If the website can't supply them, it is against visa/mc regulations to keep processing for that site.
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                                                                  • djdez
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                                                                    • Dec 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by CIVMatt
                                                                    Tubes are the wave of the future, you better get on board
                                                                    Wow, so we should just allow other people to make money on our content (the website owner and processor) without any compensation to us. I would guess that no producer would be on board with that.
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                                                                    • abostonboy
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by djdez
                                                                      It is the billing companies responsibility that once a DMCA comes in to request the 2257 records. If the website can't supply them, it is against visa/mc regulations to keep processing for that site.
                                                                      correct

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                                                                      • getreal
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                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                        • 112

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Hi,

                                                                        We have taken action. The webmaster is complying with all of our requests, but we do not condone this type of activity and will be cutting off processing. Thank you.
                                                                        Last edited by getreal; 06-18-2009, 12:04 PM.
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                                                                        • Wizzo
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by getreal
                                                                          Hi,

                                                                          We have taken action. The webmaster is complying with all of our requests, but we do not condone this type of activity and will be cutting off processing. Thank you.
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                                                                          • x-rate
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                                                                            • Jun 2008
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by abostonboy
                                                                            Is it the billing company's responsibility to do anything when it says,

                                                                            "Webcam - 16Yo Blond Boy Jo In Bath (10 Min)"
                                                                            and then shows a 10 minute video?
                                                                            I think the host is a little bit more responsible than the billing company.... I see the whole thread you send 'messages' to segpay but never talk about the host. Are you working for a competitor of segpay or something like that?
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                                                                            • KGucci
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                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 653

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Thank you to all the folks that sent over the DMCA?s. SegPay takes copyright infringement very serious. We are taking the appropriate steps now to terminate this merchant from the SegPay portfolio. In the interim, they have also been told to remove all illegal content.

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                                                                              • borked
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                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 6284

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by getreal
                                                                                Hi,

                                                                                We have taken action. The webmaster is complying with all of our requests, but we do not condone this type of activity and will be cutting off processing. Thank you.
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                                                                                • abostonboy
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                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 132

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by x-rate
                                                                                  I think the host is a little bit more responsible than the billing company.... I see the whole thread you send 'messages' to segpay but never talk about the host. Are you working for a competitor of segpay or something like that?
                                                                                  No. It's my fucking content that gets removed and put back up. DMCAS get sent to Host, SegPay, and the webmsater.

                                                                                  But, You ever dealt with a host in the Netherlands?

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                                                                                  • abostonboy
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                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 132

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by getreal
                                                                                    Hi,

                                                                                    and will be cutting off processing. Thank you.
                                                                                    When will that be?

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                                                                                    • abostonboy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 132

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by x-rate
                                                                                      Are you working for a competitor of segpay or something like that?
                                                                                      No. But, and you can correct me if you feel differently, I don't think a site that is all stolen content should have the "luxury" of being processed by a processing company when they also have videos of 16 year olds on the damn site. And how would you feel when you went to the site to get links to send out yet another damn DMCA and your video was right next to a video of a 16 year old kid. I puked.

                                                                                      And it wasn't like they hid the fact -

                                                                                      "Webcam - 16Yo Blond Boy Jo In Bath (10 Min)"

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                                                                                      • Webmaster Army
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                                                                                        • Jun 2009
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by abostonboy
                                                                                        It's NOT a DMCA process. It's keeping sites in compliance with VISA regulation. Not rocket science.
                                                                                        You are right, it's not rocket science. A service provider should not be making these judgment calls, period.
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                                                                                        • Webmaster Army
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                          But it is the billing companies responsibility after being made aware that there is content that doesnt belong to the site owner. To tell the site owner this happens again you are gone.
                                                                                          Not quite. I haven't clicked through yet but I am assuming this is a tube that accepts user uploads. The most any billing company should do is what they already seem to be doing, make sure it is taken down when the proper channels are used. They are not in the business of verifying claims made by others.
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                                                                                          • Webmaster Army
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by djdez
                                                                                            Wow, so we should just allow other people to make money on our content (the website owner and processor) without any compensation to us. I would guess that no producer would be on board with that.
                                                                                            No, you should do everything you can to make sure the law is updated to something that works. As the law stands, you send DMCA and they remove or say no. They say no you can sue.
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                                                                                            • abostonboy
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                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Webmaster Army
                                                                                              Not quite. I haven't clicked through yet but I am assuming this is a tube that accepts user uploads. The most any billing company should do is what they already seem to be doing, make sure it is taken down when the proper channels are used. They are not in the business of verifying claims made by others.
                                                                                              lol. There are so many wanna be board lawyers it cracks me up. Why don't you go create a tube site with all your "legal" expertise and let me sue the fuck out of you. (For the MOST part when a tube site accepts payment via an ISPS they can pretty much toss out any and all safe harbour protection they have.)

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                                                                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                #48
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                                                                                                • abostonboy
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Webmaster Army
                                                                                                  You are right, it's not rocket science. A service provider should not be making these judgment calls, period.
                                                                                                  I agree -

                                                                                                  GOD SHOULD! But he said he was busy at the moment!

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                                                                                                  • Diomed
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2009
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Why has nobody responded on the point of Visa regulations with this guys claim of underage porn - etc?
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