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jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 02:28 PM

Is Vegas Dead?
 
Just curious what others thought about Sin City at this point. Seems like its dying hard and fast. Other than the economy here is another real reason the place is heading to the gutter...

Back in the day you could get some pretty sweet deals in Vegas if you gambled a little and even if you didn’t, things were reasonable. Now they try and rape you every angle they can. The clubs are a joke and it’s all because they got greedy. Its classic greed. They should give it back to the Mob, the corps drove it to the ground. I take my money to Cabo San Lucas Mex any day over a shit whole in the dessert. Just my two cents :)

stever 02-22-2010 02:30 PM

they still give me everything comped for gambling

datatank 02-22-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16884838)
I take my money to Cabo San Lucas Mex any day over a shit whole in the dessert. Just my two cents :)

Me too:thumbsup

TheDoc 02-22-2010 02:38 PM

Sure, give it back to the mob.... you can trade the money you win in for keeping your knees and hands.

Vegas if full of comps, if you want more comps, start playing playing the tables and play bigger hands. Also, get off the strip, hit fremont street, even the sun coast casinos, all of them will comp you with free food, hotel, extra stays, everything legal.

It's all a game, not just the gambling.

datatank 02-22-2010 02:42 PM

Las Vegas is a shit hole.
It was horrible even back when every one was making money hand over fist in the real estate game. Atleast then every one was happy they could finally afford a new beamer after they took a 2nd out on their home and sucked out all the equity.

I would hate to be there now that everyone is miserable and they just foreclosed on that house

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16884877)
Sure, give it back to the mob.... you can trade the money you win in for keeping your knees and hands.

Vegas if full of comps, if you want more comps, start playing playing the tables and play bigger hands. Also, get off the strip, hit fremont street, even the sun coast casinos, all of them will comp you with free food, hotel, extra stays, everything legal.

It's all a game, not just the gambling.

I understand the comps, I don't play the way I used to, but I just feel like they try and get you on every angle they can. Don't you agree its dying out there?

JimmiDean 02-22-2010 02:45 PM

Just wait till they up the tax system to pay for the loss in tourism.

TheDoc 02-22-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16884905)
I understand the comps, I don't play the way I used to, but I just feel like they try and get you on every angle they can. Don't you agree its dying out there?

It's the city of sin, that turned into the city of yuppie douche bags that think it's L.A. So if the housing marketing, city, etc is dieing, then I love it! It's a shit hole, people need to stop pretending it's ever going to be L.A.

But Vegas, as in the Casinos/strip, I don't think is dying. They may be in a crunch right now, many less people visiting Vegas, just to 'play Vegas.' But plenty of dirty old men with a shit load of money still visit every day.

Axeman 02-22-2010 02:53 PM

Just got back this morning and things seemed to be pretty busy, and I saw prices on the strip for things like food and drink much cheaper than past years.

Scott McD 02-22-2010 02:55 PM

The last time i went to the strip, the number of those dudes with the 'escort cards' hanging about seemed to fucking multiply by 10.

Fucking pains in the ass!

FreeHugeMovies 02-22-2010 02:59 PM

Went there last weekend and it seemed pretty packed to me. Why do you associate them trying to make more money with it going into the gutter?

beerptrol 02-22-2010 03:00 PM

with the economy the way it is I prefer to spend my money locally. I donate to the single moms and college students at the local strip club

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 16884942)
Went there last weekend and it seemed pretty packed to me. Why do you associate them trying to make more money with it going into the gutter?

Just my thoughts. I think the town is dead or dying.... thats just from what I noticed the last couple trips. I could be wrong, but it seems like $7 for a slice of pizza is a bit of a joke for example. I know the ballers will always go, I just think that is dead to the middle class, and that was a big part of the market in the past.

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 16884947)
with the economy the way it is I prefer to spend my money locally. I donate to the single moms and college students at the local strip club

I do the same, I stay at home in San Diego at local strip clubs. Or head south to sun and waves.

L-Pink 02-22-2010 03:15 PM

I miss the old days ... gambling, hookers, strippers and blow.


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96ukssob 02-22-2010 03:16 PM

its not that its going to shit, but people go to Vegas now for a different reason then they did 20 years ago.

years back everyone went there to do one thing, and that was gamble. they would give you a free buffet because they know you would spend some change before going in to eat. same with drinks and bars.

now, people go to vegas to party and drink and see shows. Ive been to Vegas a number of times and I dont think I have ever gambled as much in all those trips as I do in one trip to AC.

the problem is the casino is loosing money by bringing people in. every person that walks through that door has a cost. they have to have security, cleaning crew, air conditioning, etc., so for them to make money, they have to charge you.

Scott McD 02-22-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16884977)
I miss the old days ... gambling, hookers, strippers and blow.


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That was when life was simple. Too much damn drama nowadays... :warning

datatank 02-22-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16884961)
I do the same, I stay at home in San Diego at local strip clubs. Or head south to sun and waves.

Where have you been surfing?

FreeHugeMovies 02-22-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16884958)
Just my thoughts. I think the town is dead or dying.... thats just from what I noticed the last couple trips. I could be wrong, but it seems like $7 for a slice of pizza is a bit of a joke for example. I know the ballers will always go, I just think that is dead to the middle class, and that was a big part of the market in the past.

It's been like that for 5+ years dude

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16885009)
Where have you been surfing?

I surf anywere from San Diego to Cabo San Lucas

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 16885015)
It's been like that for 5+ years dude

Your right, but it doesnt die over night. Yes its been heading that way for a while.

datatank 02-22-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16885016)
I surf anywere from San Diego to Cabo San Lucas

I mean where in baja lately

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16885053)
I mean where in baja lately

Monuments

davecummings 02-22-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16884961)
I do the same, I stay at home in San Diego at local strip clubs. Or head south to sun and waves.

I've got some FREE admission passes to DreamGirls Gentlemen's club on Convoy, just north of Clairemont Mesa Dr, for anytime this Friday or Saturday----email me your mailing address if you want one! DaveATDavecummings DOTcom. I wonder if Tiger ever was there:-)

kane 02-22-2010 03:51 PM

Vegas has made a pretty big effort to switch from being a gamblers paradise to being a vacationers paradise. I don't gamble much, but last time I went there I was there for three days and just had fun walking around checking things out. I probably spent about $200 on gambling so I can see where they want to be able to make more money off of people like me who don't blow their cash at the tables.

O MARINA 02-22-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 16885060)
Monuments



Ladies night ?

jesse_adultdatingdollars 02-22-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 16885095)
I've got some FREE admission passes to DreamGirls Gentlemen's club on Convoy, just north of Clairemont Mesa Dr, for anytime this Friday or Saturday----email me your mailing address if you want one! DaveATDavecummings DOTcom. I wonder if Tiger ever was there:-)

Only if you meet me there Dave! Your a good man Sir and I would be proud to have a drink with a local San Diego Legend. Maybe we head over to the Cheetah after a few drinks at Dream Girls.

gaffg 02-22-2010 04:35 PM

See signature, if people travel less maybe they might want to play online

cybermike 02-22-2010 04:47 PM

hitting up vegas before the phx show.. hope everything is cheap :P

SykkBoy 02-22-2010 05:06 PM

Oscar Goodman has been crying about Obama's speeches hurting Vegas, but he doesn't seem to want to blame the casinos for jacking up prices and nickle and diming everyone to death.

It also doesn't help that a couple big companies own pretty much all of the casinos. They use this "slow economy" bullshit to pay their employees less and work them harder with the threat of losing their jobs.

Las Vegas had the chance to bring in high tech companies many years ago and bring in income that was more than just tourism and gambling. They fucked it up and kept building these large lavish hotels, with the prices continuing to climb. Every hotel had to have "high end " shops and expensive restaurants, even the dumpy casinos that would have been better off being imploded and rebuilt from scratch. The city could only handle so many of these without something giving, now we're seeing a thinning of the herd.

TheDoc is right, a bunch of LA douchebags came in, brought in their shitty overinflated real estate speculation, stupid laws and fucked it up. Builders started building house closer together to squeeze in 2-3 more houses per lot and flooded the market. Out of town construction employees came in to grab the booming construction job market, then just up and left, leaving the local guys.

Vegas is definitely one big mess, but it's also an opportunity. I'm looking at houses that were selling for a retarded $500-600K now being listed in the lower 300s and in some cases even lower than that. Good. A lot of them were just out of town speculators anyways. casino employees couldn't really afford them anyways.

Vegas isn't dead, it's just undergoing a marketing correction...

punker barbie 02-22-2010 05:25 PM

i just came back from vegas on sunday and it was packed and with the economy room rates are the best i have ever seen!!!!!

punker barbie 02-22-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 16885368)
Oscar Goodman has been crying about Obama's speeches hurting Vegas, but he doesn't seem to want to blame the casinos for jacking up prices and nickle and diming everyone to death.

It also doesn't help that a couple big companies own pretty much all of the casinos. They use this "slow economy" bullshit to pay their employees less and work them harder with the threat of losing their jobs.

Las Vegas had the chance to bring in high tech companies many years ago and bring in income that was more than just tourism and gambling. They fucked it up and kept building these large lavish hotels, with the prices continuing to climb. Every hotel had to have "high end " shops and expensive restaurants, even the dumpy casinos that would have been better off being imploded and rebuilt from scratch. The city could only handle so many of these without something giving, now we're seeing a thinning of the herd.

TheDoc is right, a bunch of LA douchebags came in, brought in their shitty overinflated real estate speculation, stupid laws and fucked it up. Builders started building house closer together to squeeze in 2-3 more houses per lot and flooded the market. Out of town construction employees came in to grab the booming construction job market, then just up and left, leaving the local guys.

Vegas is definitely one big mess, but it's also an opportunity. I'm looking at houses that were selling for a retarded $500-600K now being listed in the lower 300s and in some cases even lower than that. Good. A lot of them were just out of town speculators anyways. casino employees couldn't really afford them anyways.

Vegas isn't dead, it's just undergoing a marketing correction...

very true. if anyone has been to palms place those were supposed to be condos which explains every room having a full kitchen.

punker barbie 02-22-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 16885297)
hitting up vegas before the phx show.. hope everything is cheap :P

check out the hardrock they have rooms in the old tower for $55 a night

Sosa 02-22-2010 06:07 PM

I haven't had a problem on any trip to Vegas. There are cheaper places to eat if you don't want to spend money in a nicer place. Free drinks while I watch sports all day long at the Bellagio. That works for me.

TrashyContent 02-22-2010 06:15 PM

Yep
 
Last time I was in Vegas we got a suite comped for 9 days in Planet Hollywood... still aint worked out how... we were most definetly not part of the Bro Club or High Rollers lol :)

AaronM 02-22-2010 06:28 PM

I had a nice lunched comped to me today at Lagasse's Stadium at the Palazzo. Not sure why they were replaying the US/Canada hockey game though....

http://ampcontent.com/pics/LS.jpg

mozadek 02-22-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 16884947)
with the economy the way it is I prefer to spend my money locally. I donate to the single moms and college students at the local strip club

weak........

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-22-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stever (Post 16884846)
they still give me everything comped for gambling

So basically you are still giving them money for gambling. :2 cents:

tehHinjew 02-22-2010 09:09 PM

going in july hope to spend under 650 for flight and hotel

Atticus 02-22-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by punker barbie (Post 16885435)
very true. if anyone has been to palms place those were supposed to be condos which explains every room having a full kitchen.

They're still condos. Just the owners put them back in the rental pool when they arent using them and the Palms book them and take a hefty cut. Lot's of the new condo projects here in town are like that.


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