Is it normal for dmca hunters to threaten family and friends by phone?
 

I removed the quotes of who said this (and censored the names/links in it), but i can tell you it was on another forum where this was posted. It wasnt posted or adressed to me, we always take down links/pics/videos within 24hrs because its not even worth the hassle even if we KNOW pretty sure that we didnt violate any rules.

I wonder if this is common practice. Are there more people that have had calls to them and their families with threats?

This depends upon the type of threats. If it is in any form of physical harm, you can go after him.

Maybe Steve Easton got a new job? :)

it's normal

Some people just want to see the world burn.

If I had content stolen, I would harass the SHIT out of the thief and if I had his family's numbers, I'd call them at 4 am.

People think they are being so clever when stealing content.

Is it normal? As in, is it the standard thing is such cases? Probably not

Does it surprise me that it's happening? Not in the least.

Some people are psychos who have no problem at all with digging up personal information and using it against you publicly, either to get what they want or in somecases just for kicks. In fact there have been several such assholes on this very board in past years. Probably 1 or 2 here right now.

Of course, if the guy has a legitimate beef and content has been stolen, misused, etc, then all bets are off.

is this remove my content?

Yes.

Btw let me state this clear again, i was in no involved in this case, but noticed a lot of "complaints" about this on other forums. I really wonder if this is how producers/sites want these "dmca hunters" to work.

Imagine someone finding out where your kids life, then calling them and threatening them in any way possible. Even if someone stole my content i would probably do a lot, but not this.

I would not feel comfortable with someone doing that for me to get content taken down, but maybe i need to harden up then. If someone wants to play it hard, hire a lawyer and attack the ones that are responsible or?

ya thats not good, its like a debt collector, they have laws which they cant do this

thieves get what they deserve usually

Don't feel to sorry for thieves that profit from others. If you are making money from stolen property ... fuck you and your family.


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no kidding, heh :thumbsup

I think there are indeed. Not sure what laws though.

Thieves do, but people that are related to thieves and have ZERO to do (or have no influence on) with what that thief is doing?

Wow.

Survival of the fittest. If you're unable to protect your own content then shame on you.

Jeese dident expect that from you.. about the family bit I mean. How would you like it if you did something wrong and the person started harrasing your family members who have nothing to do with it ..Dont think you would be to happy either cause I know I wouldent be.

Some people may view their property being stolen, as the theif is taking food out of my family's mouth. Why should I give a shit about his family when he's fucking mine. Doesn't make it right, but if you choose to steal other people's shit, don't be surprised if someone goes after you and your family one day

Harrasing, threatening and death threats are bad.

Death threats are the worst speech, by law. Someone could go to jail for saying them.

How fucking illogical No wonder we are being fucked and the adult biz is so hated with statements like that. So if you have a nephew that murdered somebody which you had nothing to do with. You would be real pleased to get hassle from the family of the murdered victim ..yeah that makes real sense to me. The individual who did the crime is responsible not his family

It's not okay to commit a crime to stop a crime.. You are equally as guilty when you do this. So if someone did steal content, that's bad.. if you harass someone family over it, that's equally as bad and both equally as illegal.

Naa... that couldn't be possible, no way GFY has that many hypocrites.

What is 'criminal'? Running a background check? Calling someone a prick? Getting in touch with someone's family?

What's so difficult about taking a video/picture/link down?

the problem is because of the safe harbor provision they are not committing a crime so it
actually commit a crime to stop what you wish was a crime.

Exactly. While I do not support involving families in this bs, I understand people who're tempted to do that.

Just don't steal and you wouldn't have to worry about someone calling your family at 4 am, it's that simple.

If I own content, and I send you a notice to take it down, and you don't.... and I have copyrighted that content, you just broke the copyright laws, period. Even user uploaded has to come down, one way or another, it must come down and you must respond.

No safe harbor provisions stop from that, it's exactly how the law is written.

Perhaps Eric at RYC is having a smear campaign perpetuated against him. I've used them for over a year and never heard of anything like that.

His job is to send a DMCA. What earthly purpose would he have to make "death threats" or any kind of "threat" to anybody for the 99 bucks a month I pay him?

He regularly informs me of certain out of country people who will not honor dmca takedowns and advises me to have my attorney go after them.

Why would he do that if he were sending out "death threats"? I smell bullshit.

Fuck phones... Use baseball bats.

That would be a little funny... more because it really wouldn't hurt his business either way, program owners wouldn't mind the pirates getting shot, let alone some harassment.


But yeah, doesn't sound very logical that he would put his business in danger when that's your job.

this would be my guess also........

Not only that...but in a bit of irony...I know that many of the sites he has went after have done exactly what he is being accused of...to HIM.

He told me a year ago that he was being threatened and harrassed by them. Reason being because Eric first sends them a DMCA, then rinses and repeats. And if they tell him to fuck off, he goes to their host and their registrar. And then if for some reason (third world country, etc.) that doesn't work he at least gets the offending links yanked off google. And he has had several of those bad sites pulled down.

The bad guys don't appreciate any of that. And about a year ago he icq'ed me and told me he had been threatened physically and has his site routinely ddos'ed by them as well as hackers nailing it overtime.

That's why I think this is a product of disinformation on somebodies part trying to discredit him. It doesn't fit Eric's M.O. in any way and doesn't make him one penny more to have done anything like what is suggested.

They are play in a grey area.

In my state, someone can be charged with telephone misuse. That is classified as constant harassment.

I think they'd have a problem in my state.

DMCA is a civil issue and they should not be handling it as they are.

If it is a smear campaign I bet it is backfiring spectacularly......

Sent some links to your IM tootsie.
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go eric!!!!!!!!

No we are fucked cause we got idiots who can't read. No where did I say I would do this or it was right, I guess you didn't read where I said it doesn't make it right. But the fact remains, if you are gonna fuck with people's lively hood, you'd better expect to pay the consequences...one of which may be a nut fucking with your family

I wondered how long it would be before the thief-defending gideon poked his nose in here.

Thread should have legs for a few more pages now.

Strike 1 ... the decision to steal property is made.

Strike 2 ... DMCA is ignored

Strike 3 ... a family member is made aware you are a thieving low-life

Sounds like he got off pretty easy to me.


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So lets turn it aournd a bit: If your dad did something wrong and the "victim" would find out where YOUR kids lived to call them, harrass them, and threaten them. That would be fine with you right?

I dont know why the picture wasnt taken down. What i do know is that its a very respected and trusted guy who hosts a lot of websites that posted it in public. Not someone who is known to be unstable in any way.

I hope you didnt just acused me of setting up some smear campaign.

1. I didnt post the name or company of who the quote was referring to. Would be a bit weird for me to get into a smearcampaign without doing that or?
2. There are posts on several forums, all people that have been in this biz for a long time. I wont go into detail what was posted, but maybe you should take a look.

But seriously robby, you didnt really think I posted this as a smearcampaign or?

Won't somebody please think of the poor Tube sites?! :'(