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iguess 04-26-2010 01:53 AM

Content Shooters
 
Which one of yall shooters are making over 10kusd month? Ifso, how w/ the economy..

nudecanada 04-26-2010 01:55 AM

lmao, this should be good. I predict lots of bullshit flying around when the per usual GFY "content shooters" respond!

Jon Oso 04-26-2010 02:01 AM

I don't make anywhere near that... Like, not even close.

iguess 04-26-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17074382)
I don't make anywhere near that... Like, not even close.

hmm , interesting.

MaDalton 04-26-2010 05:07 PM

what does "make" mean? revenue? profit? company? personal? before tax? after tax?

let's say: we have done better in the past on the exclusive stuff, but non-exclusive is doing very well. and i have updates for the next 3 years without having to spend one cent on new productions

i don't complain


PS: see http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/965354-finally-exgf-packages-video-pics.html ;)

CaptainHowdy 04-26-2010 05:09 PM

I don't see/read shooters complaining...

Barefootsies 04-26-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17077086)
I don't see/read shooters complaining...

Most content shooters have adapted to the times.

Some have opted to go the webmaster route, others have started shooting for others, some have went from exclusive to non or semi exclusive, and broadened their company base.

I have also noticed more providing their content in ready made sites they sell off.

Grapesoda 04-26-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nudecanada (Post 17074375)
lmao, this should be good. I predict lots of bullshit flying around when the per usual GFY "content shooters" respond!

who would that be?

fatfoo 04-26-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17077078)
what does "make" mean? revenue? profit? company? personal? before tax? after tax?

let's say: we have done better in the past on the exclusive stuff, but non-exclusive is doing very well. and i have updates for the next 3 years without having to spend one cent on new productions

i don't complain


PS: see http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/965354-finally-exgf-packages-video-pics.html ;)

I think profit after tax is the best measure of what you "make."

Jim_Gunn 04-26-2010 07:34 PM

Production is not down for the handful of really talented producers who consistently do good work. I have been in the biz since 1991 and an award winning porn director since 1993. Last year, 2009, was my best & busiest year ever and 2010 is shaping up to be even more so. It's taken me a long time to build my reputation and skills to this point and create a style and train my crew and develop resources to deliver quality work with fresh American girls from teens to MILFs. I am working hard and smart and making the most of every opportunity from filming exclusive content for some of the biggest affiliate programs and DVD movies for porn studios, plus licensing non-exclusive Ex-GF style amateur content, and monetizing my own content on a few web sites and clip stores, and with studio residuals from DVD sales and VOD, and other avenues. Plus I do special projects like interactive flash applications & informercials and instructional DVDs for adult and mainstream companies looking for R rated entertainment. I even do some webmastering and have some affiliate income, plus consult & do post production work for clients looking to bridge the offline and online adult business world or for startups getting into the adult business.

Grapesoda 04-26-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 17077484)
Production is not down for the handful of really talented producers who consistently do good work. I have been in the biz since 1991 and an award winning porn director since 1993. Last year, 2009, was my best & busiest year ever and 2010 is shaping up to be even more so. It's taken me a long time to build my reputation and skills to this point and create a style and train my crew and develop resources to deliver quality work with fresh American girls from teens to MILFs. I am working hard and smart and making the most of every opportunity from filming exclusive content for some of the biggest affiliate programs and DVD movies for porn studios, plus licensing non-exclusive Ex-GF style amateur content, and monetizing my own content on a few web sites and clip stores, and with studio residuals from DVD sales and VOD, and other avenues. Plus I do special projects like interactive flash applications & informercials and instructional DVDs for adult and mainstream companies looking for R rated entertainment. I even do some webmastering and have some affiliate income, plus consult & do post production work for clients looking to bridge the offline and online adult business world or for startups getting into the adult business.

so are you netting 10K per month?

marcop 04-26-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 17077484)
Production is not down for the handful of really talented producers who consistently do good work. I have been in the biz since 1991 and an award winning porn director since 1993. Last year, 2009, was my best & busiest year ever and 2010 is shaping up to be even more so. It's taken me a long time to build my reputation and skills to this point and create a style and train my crew and develop resources to deliver quality work with fresh American girls from teens to MILFs. I am working hard and smart and making the most of every opportunity from filming exclusive content for some of the biggest affiliate programs and DVD movies for porn studios, plus licensing non-exclusive Ex-GF style amateur content, and monetizing my own content on a few web sites and clip stores, and with studio residuals from DVD sales and VOD, and other avenues. Plus I do special projects like interactive flash applications & informercials and instructional DVDs for adult and mainstream companies looking for R rated entertainment. I even do some webmastering and have some affiliate income, plus consult & do post production work for clients looking to bridge the offline and online adult business world or for startups getting into the adult business.

Of course, some fool had to use this thread to market their incredible--just incredible--skills at all aspects of shooting adult content. We believe you, Jim . . . .

Robbie 04-26-2010 08:56 PM

I make around 25 grand a month shooting content...But I only shoot for Claudia-Marie.Com :pimp

The Ghost 04-26-2010 09:06 PM

What exactly do you mean by Content Shooter, someone that only produces for others? As Robbie mentioned there's producers that make that or much more producing for themselves.


See sig.

Jim_Gunn 04-26-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 17077638)
Of course, some fool had to use this thread to market their incredible--just incredible--skills at all aspects of shooting adult content. We believe you, Jim . . . .


Robbie 04-26-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 17077669)
What exactly do you mean by Content Shooter, someone that only produces for others? As Robbie mentioned there's producers that make that or much more producing for themselves.


See sig.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about for hire camera guys. But I thought I'd be a smartass and toss my shit in. heh-heh

I can tell those of you who don't know how things work...The biggest companies like Brazzers, Naughty America, etc. don't buy content. They have an in-house crew. A vid cam guy/director/producer and a still camera guy, and the assorted monkeys that do the grunt work (why on earth they spend money on a PM and a "lighting and sound guy" is beyond me...in reality ONE person can take the stills and do vid and no need for the extra guys or girls) And that in-house crew shoots 3 to 4 scenes a day 5 days a week and they are on salary. And that salary ain't nowhere near 10 grand a month.

Then there are guys like Jim Gunn out there shooting content. I have no idea what he makes or who his clients are so I don't presume to speak for him. I'm sure times are tougher now than before piracy happened. If for nothing else because there aren't as many clients now with the budgets they had before.

Does he make ten grand a month at this moment in time? I don't know. In his business maintaining a steady income is tough. It's a buyers market right now. But for all I know he just might be making a lot more than that. He's been around a while. And the longer you're around, the more tricks you learn to survive.

Jim_Gunn 04-26-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17077529)
so are you netting 10K per month?



Barefootsies 04-26-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 17077714)

Hot toes.
:thumbsup

NaughtyRob 04-26-2010 11:48 PM

Making yes, profiting, no.

Paul Markham 04-27-2010 01:59 AM

Was making that easily 2/3 years ago. With the demise of the magazine market and our health problems it's been cut back but still making $10k a month from content.

Grapesoda 04-27-2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17077647)
I make around 25 grand a month shooting content...But I only shoot for Claudia-Marie.Com :pimp

that's great.... congrats!

DWB 04-27-2010 05:31 AM

That's really not much.

I stopped selling scenes as of last year but 10k would be 5 - 6 scenes (shot in Asia - not the USA or EU). We were shooting 2 - 3 scenes a day.

Of course that was a year ago and I've since stopped selling content, but even with the current market that could still be made with ease. Even with companies dying, many will still pay up for exclusive or hard to get content and those who do need to lower their price can find someone else to take the risk. But, even if you sold cheaper, you could still make that within a week if you wanted to. The trick is having content people want. It doesn't have to be "the best" or in HD, it just has to sell. :2 cents:

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17078395)
That's really not much.

The trick is having content people want. It doesn't have to be "the best" or in HD, it just has to sell. :2 cents:

...pretty much hitting the nail on the fucking head right there man

Barefootsies 04-27-2010 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 17078405)
...pretty much hitting the nail on the fucking head right there man

Agreed.

If the content sells, there will always be buyers.

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 05:43 AM

My stuff is exclusive, as are my models. not making 10k per month. Shit guys, if I was, I would leave today and just travel the U.S. shooting fetish shoots and beautiful women. I think with some people, hearing all of this success true or not, just makes us smaller producers just that much more hungry to do our concepts and strive.

Although I would say for the smaller producers, that if we have been in the game 4 years or longer, it's pretty much a labor of love anyway and money, fame, etc, are all just great ends for hard work imho.

Adult in 2010 is mos def not for the non motivated sort.

DWB 04-27-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 17078422)
My stuff is exclusive, as are my models. not making 10k per month. Shit guys, if I was, I would leave today and just travel the U.S. shooting fetish shoots and beautiful women. I think with some people, hearing all of this success true or not, just makes us smaller producers just that much more hungry to do our concepts and strive.

Although I would say for the smaller producers, that if we have been in the game 4 years or longer, it's pretty much a labor of love anyway and money, fame, etc, are all just great ends for hard work imho.

Adult in 2010 is mos def not for the non motivated sort.

You do not sell your content though, right? I could be wrong but I think that is what he was asking about.

I would think if you actually sold your content to others, you could make that. However, I don't know what your overhead is.

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 05:53 AM

...shit guys, when i started out in 2001, i was shooting girls, pawning my camera to make rent, getting it out in 3 weeks, shooting girls, repeat.

Thank God I don't have to do that for awhile now, only through adversity, will you ever see where the true passions of yourself lies.

I am not making a ton, but I am launching, tweaking, building and expanding, listening to advice. I believe and will take the pepsi challenge to anything once my concepts are done. Because I believe I am building the slickest adult directories out there. And energy mos def has power.

In the end, there has to be something more to come into this game, you can't do shit that looks like everyone elses and expect to make serious $$$. You have to have a passion for perversion, a love for the perverse or both. You have to understand it, see the beauty in it to convert it, period.

But when I do make it, I will never be an asshole, always listen to my niche and still strive even more to live vicariously through their eyes :2 cents:

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17078445)
You do not sell your content though, right? I could be wrong but I think that is what he was asking about.

I would think if you actually sold your content to others, you could make that. However, I don't know what your overhead is.

no it's just for beautifulfeetonline.com and 2 feeder sites I am doing this summer, one foot worship and one pantyhose/nylon. I have thought about it, but waiting for now. I live in my "photostudio", which is actually just a 1400 sq foot room, basically. I am also a makeup artist and so do all of that myself as well as shooting, promoting, etc.

ninavain 04-27-2010 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by iguess (Post 17074372)
Which one of yall shooters are making over 10kusd month? Ifso, how w/ the economy..

we do , not telling u how

Robbie 04-27-2010 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 17078447)
...shit guys, when i started out in 2001, i was shooting girls, pawning my camera to make rent, getting it out in 3 weeks, shooting girls, repeat.

Thank God I don't have to do that for awhile now, only through adversity, will you ever see where the true passions of yourself lies.

I am not making a ton, but I am launching, tweaking, building and expanding, listening to advice. I believe and will take the pepsi challenge to anything once my concepts are done. Because I believe I am building the slickest adult directories out there. And energy mos def has power.

In the end, there has to be something more to come into this game, you can't do shit that looks like everyone elses and expect to make serious $$$. You have to have a passion for perversion, a love for the perverse or both. You have to understand it, see the beauty in it to convert it, period.

But when I do make it, I will never be an asshole, always listen to my niche and still strive even more to live vicariously through their eyes :2 cents:

I dig your passion! That's what it has to be: A labor of love

DWB 04-27-2010 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17078471)
I dig your passion! That's what it has to be: A labor of love

:2 cents:

Randy West once told me, "Shoot what you like to jerk off to and your market will find you."

Anytime I've strayed from that simple concept, I didn't do as well. When I stick true to that, I make a lot of money. Go figure.

Barefootsies 04-27-2010 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17078530)
:2 cents:

Randy West once told me, "Shoot what you like to jerk off to and your market will find you."

When I stick true to that, I make a lot of money. Go figure.

Well said.

I only shoot content that appeals to me personally. I do not deviate from it. I have always made money on it. First run on pay sites and clip stores, and later on licensing. Your passion comes through in the end product, and people/consumer will always buy it. Especially in niche markets.

Robbie 04-27-2010 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17078530)
:2 cents:

Randy West once told me, "Shoot what you like to jerk off to and your market will find you."

Anytime I've strayed from that simple concept, I didn't do as well. When I stick true to that, I make a lot of money. Go figure.

Nail to head brother. I absolutely love what I shoot. Before I even turn the camera on I pretty much "see" the entire thing from start to finish, know exactly how I'm editing, sound effects I want to use, even the transition effects I'm gonna use. I get excited when I'm shooting. I love it. The creativity, the execution, the final product, and then watching it pay off.

LoveSandra 04-27-2010 06:42 AM

bump bump

digitaldivas 04-27-2010 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17078562)
Nail to head brother. I absolutely love what I shoot. Before I even turn the camera on I pretty much "see" the entire thing from start to finish, know exactly how I'm editing, sound effects I want to use, even the transition effects I'm gonna use. I get excited when I'm shooting. I love it. The creativity, the execution, the final product, and then watching it pay off.

omg, yes, it's like superbowl sunday. I love it. And once you start to vibe with your talent, it's all giggles and bubblegum. I love that "high", just shooting, making content, being excited, having the same vision, making it sexy. Totally off topic now, but great fucking convo!

Paul Markham 04-27-2010 07:06 AM

I have noticed a lot of content shooters getting out of the game here in Eastern Europe. Most just can't find the work like they used to and the demise of the magazines. Agents are finding it tough as well.

Barefootsies 04-27-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17078686)
I have noticed a lot of content shooters getting out of the game here in Eastern Europe. Most just can't find the work like they used to and the demise of the magazines. Agents are finding it tough as well.

They failed to "adapt" superman sire.
:2 cents:

Grapesoda 04-27-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17078686)
I have noticed a lot of content shooters getting out of the game here in Eastern Europe. Most just can't find the work like they used to and the demise of the magazines. Agents are finding it tough as well.

talk to the agents out here in LA and it's: my fucking girls are so busy you'll need to pay more just get one in your schedual $.02

AaronM 04-27-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17078798)
talk to the agents out here in LA and it's: my fucking girls are so busy you'll need to pay more just get one in your schedual $.02


That's not the same story I've been getting. I've been booking LA agency girls at discounted rates for the last 6 months.

Grapesoda 04-27-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 17078834)
That's not the same story I've been getting. I've been booking LA agency girls at discounted rates for the last 6 months.

what happens in vegas, stays in vegas I guess... call derrk up and give him the good news :)


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