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PR_Dave 10-13-2010 09:24 PM

Webmasters want Paxum? Yet no one has a card yet?
 
Am I missing something?

People want a service they themselves have not tested?

Jason Voorhees 10-13-2010 09:31 PM

Not sure if I'll get a card, not really interested in pay $45/year for something I probably wont use. Just do small transactions with it and P2P only.

PXN 10-13-2010 09:51 PM

Consider CashX Dave, you send your tens of thousands of dollars to an FDIC/CDIC bank too.

Remember epass? Better to be safe than sorry man. Check out my cashx experience thread.

PXN 10-13-2010 10:00 PM

send you an email Dave.

Yngwie 10-13-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Voorhees (Post 17604981)
Not sure if I'll get a card, not really interested in pay $45/year for something I probably wont use. Just do small transactions with it and P2P only.

if you don't request the card you don't pay the $45/year.

Jason Voorhees 10-13-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17605027)
if you don't request the card you don't pay the $45/year.

That's why I said I don't think I'll be requesting the card. ;)

lagcam 10-13-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17605010)
Consider CashX Dave, you send your tens of thousands of dollars to an FDIC/CDIC bank too.

Remember epass? Better to be safe than sorry man. Check out my cashx experience thread.

You do know that "wallet" money being sent to an FDIC bank only protects you against the BANK going out of business?

If the account holder pisses all your money away on jets and movies, you are still fucked whichever bank the account was held at.

PXN 10-13-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17605119)
You do know that "wallet" money being sent to an FDIC bank only protects you against the BANK going out of business?

If the account holder pisses all your money away on jets and movies, you are still fucked whichever bank the account was held at.



But let be realistic and look at the choice we have now:

1) send money to a tiny offshore bank account

2) send it to multiple large bank account FDIC/CDIC or the equivalent insured.

Now if the card service do nothing wrong, but the bank default tell me which option is safer.

No card service is safe. But one is clearly safer than the other.

V_RocKs 10-14-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17605119)
You do know that "wallet" money being sent to an FDIC bank only protects you against the BANK going out of business?

If the account holder pisses all your money away on jets and movies, you are still fucked whichever bank the account was held at.

So true... wonder if I have any rep left.

PornMD 10-14-2010 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17605119)
You do know that "wallet" money being sent to an FDIC bank only protects you against the BANK going out of business?

If the account holder pisses all your money away on jets and movies, you are still fucked whichever bank the account was held at.

Yea, cuz banks never fail or do what SKNANB did (cut off the "Epass") or anything.

DidierE 10-14-2010 01:45 AM

Already requested my card beginning of the week...

Buzz 10-14-2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17605207)
Yea, cuz banks never fail or do what SKNANB did (cut off the "Epass") or anything.

i hope this was irony because sknanb IS a bank. and yes, they definitely do fail.

Nikitos 10-14-2010 02:00 AM

I really hope that soon at least someone will get a card from paxum. Cause it's getting really strange: everybody wanna be payed to paxum but nobody has got that card though lots of people say that they have "shipped" status for quite a while already.

Machete_ 10-14-2010 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17604963)
Am I missing something?

People want a service they themselves have not tested?

Well, first you need sponsors paying out to Paxum, because otherwise the card is worthless.

People have started to request cards just recently, when they saw that sponsors supporting Paxum. Also keep in mind that it takes time to print the card and mail it.

People will have Paxum cards soon.

Emil 10-14-2010 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Voorhees (Post 17604981)
Not sure if I'll get a card, not really interested in pay $45/year for something I probably wont use. Just do small transactions with it and P2P only.

Yeah, that fee is a bit high... I doubt I will pay for it in the future.

Dreamteam 10-14-2010 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 17605340)
Yeah, that fee is a bit high... I doubt I will pay for it in the future.

My god .. are you fucking serious?

Epassporte $35/year ... Paxum $45/year
$10 dollars extra a year LOL that is 0.83 cent a month.


You're kidding right? :helpme

Dreamteam 10-14-2010 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17605318)
Well, first you need sponsors paying out to Paxum, because otherwise the card is worthless.

People have started to request cards just recently, when they saw that sponsors supporting Paxum. Also keep in mind that it takes time to print the card and mail it.

People will have Paxum cards soon.

Exactly ... good reply man.
:2 cents:

Andreas 10-14-2010 03:17 AM

A sponsor payed you this morning. In the afternoon you go to the atm and get your money. Or pay your host/content and other expenses when you get the money. If you are getting payed more then 1000$ per pay period then just do a wire transfer. I takes maybe 2 days to get the money i am sure you can wait for it. For 50 small sponsor payments these services are a life saver.

Just don't keep your money longer then needed on paxum/okpay/payoneer/epass whatever. It's and awesome service just be smart about it and don't keep 10000$ on it. If you want to avoid taxes well don't ;) but if you insist on it get an offshore account yourself. You can very easily open an account in Austria for example and get an ATM card and just forward all your wires there. they have very strict banking secret laws and i know lots of germans keep it there or swiss.

bufferover 10-14-2010 03:26 AM

If Paxum works i will be more than a happy to see Pimp Roll using it. I still wait my card but i too early to get it i guess. Passed two weeks and i live in Europe

pimpware 10-14-2010 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimitar (Post 17605401)
If Paxum works i will be more than a happy to see Pimp Roll using it. I still wait my card but i too early to get it i guess. Passed two weeks and i live in Europe

Same here

Whats your card status? Mine is "Shipped"

james_clickmemedia 10-14-2010 05:03 AM

when you order a new credit card it usually takes 10-14 days once approved to get the card it you hands. Cannot see Paxum being much faster than that.

PR_Dave 10-14-2010 07:28 AM

I am sticking to the point that no one has tested it and sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon.

Be wary of sponsors that jump on un-tested payment methods.

candyflip 10-14-2010 07:31 AM

Anyone who isn't an idiot and has access to Paypal should have no issues. Otherwise, you're just an idiot.

There really is no other comparison.

Shap 10-14-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17605914)
I am sticking to the point that no one has tested it and sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon.

Be wary of sponsors that jump on un-tested payment methods.

Dave is 100% right on this. There is so little business sense these days it's scary.

signupdamnit 10-14-2010 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17605914)
I am sticking to the point that no one has tested it and sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon.

Be wary of sponsors that jump on un-tested payment methods.

I'm mostly with you on this one. We don't even really know why Epassporte went under. For all we know it could be something that will shortly take these other guys down too even if they are legitimate businesses. the only thing I understand is that smaller (or those with many sponsors) non-US webmasters need alternative solutions besides wire and check. I think the Paxum bandwagon is largely a result of desperation.

RuthB 10-14-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17605914)
I am sticking to the point that no one has tested it and sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon.

Be wary of sponsors that jump on un-tested payment methods.

Actually Dave we've found some sponsors are initiating tests right after they signup; loading their accounts and having their staff signup for personal accounts and sending 'test' funds out that way. This gives them a chance to see how our system works from both sides; how long it takes for payments to display, p2p transactions to be completed etc, and then they can make an informed decision.

Also, what seems to be a new trend among sponsors, which I'm sure many webmasters appreciate, is the fact that they recognize affiliate webmasters want to make their own choices about how they get paid. Instead of just having Paxum or Payoneer, quite a few offer both as well as other alternatives along with the traditional Wire and Check methods.

After the Epassporte fiasco, keeping ones eggs scattered in many baskets is definitely starting to become the rule of thumb for many 'once bitten twice shy' webmasters. We understand this line of thought and strongly suggest that funds be cleared from your Paxum account ASAP after being loaded/deposited since this ensures peace of mind for our clients, as well as facilitating our own bottom line.:thumbsup

Shap 10-14-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17605953)
Actually Dave we've found some sponsors are initiating tests right after they signup; loading their accounts and having their staff signup for personal accounts and sending 'test' funds out that way. This gives them a chance to see how our system works from both sides; how long it takes for payments to display, p2p transactions to be completed etc, and then they can make an informed decision.

Also, what seems to be a new trend among sponsors, which I'm sure many webmasters appreciate, is the fact that they recognize affiliate webmasters want to make their own choices about how they get paid. Instead of just having Paxum or Payoneer, quite a few offer both as well as other alternatives along with the traditional Wire and Check methods.

After the Epassporte fiasco, keeping ones eggs scattered in many baskets is definitely starting to become the rule of thumb for many 'once bitten twice shy' webmasters. We understand this line of thought and strongly suggest that funds be cleared from your Paxum account ASAP after being loaded/deposited since this ensures peace of mind for our clients, as well as facilitating our own bottom line.:thumbsup

Do you know what a pain in the ass it would be to have 3 or 4 paxum type companies you work with and have to fund every 2 weeks? With every company like that you use your chances of getting fucked and losing your money jumps exponentially. I'm really fed up of people running with my money.

Add to that paxum refuses to say who owns the company, won't invite people to their offices and is living under a huge cloud of secrecy. Good luck to people using it. I really hope they don't run with the money.

Phoenix 10-14-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17605978)
Do you know what a pain in the ass it would be to have 3 or 4 paxum type companies you work with and have to fund every 2 weeks? With every company like that you use your chances of getting fucked and losing your money jumps exponentially. I'm really fed up of people running with my money.

Add to that paxum refuses to say who owns the company, won't invite people to their offices and is living under a huge cloud of secrecy. Good luck to people using it. I really hope they don't run with the money.

i dont have a horse in this race, and im not trying to poke at you nor prdave

but have you requested to go see their offices?

i believe they invited kennyb over to meet with the owners, as they are local to each other....they are lawyers it seems, and probably don't want a bunch of asshole pornographers just showing up at their offices.

however, i bet if YOU wanted to go and meet with them they would be happy to meet with you....it would be nice if maybe you and Dave from pimproll went on over and met with them....instead of shooting the horse, go see if its trained to gallop :)

maybe dave could pick you up in his helicopter ;)

epitome 10-14-2010 08:09 AM

Dave, to answer your question, yes.

It will be the same people that will be on here going "but Octav is a stand up top notch guy and I'm sure he'll do the right thing."

RuthB 10-14-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17605978)
Do you know what a pain in the ass it would be to have 3 or 4 paxum type companies you work with and have to fund every 2 weeks? With every company like that you use your chances of getting fucked and losing your money jumps exponentially. I'm really fed up of people running with my money.

Add to that paxum refuses to say who owns the company, won't invite people to their offices and is living under a huge cloud of secrecy. Good luck to people using it. I really hope they don't run with the money.

We have stated clearly who owns the company; Octav Moise is the president and part owner, and there is a group of private investors. The company was incorporated in 2007 and I'd be happy to provide you with our business registration number.

We have an office location available for you to meet up with the president and other staff, and we'd love to invite you to come visit Shap. We're located in Quebec, here is our address:

Paxum Inc.
6600 Trans Canada Highway, suite 750
Pointe-Claire, QC, H9R4S2
Canada

We have provided information relating to the banks that we use; BMO and Choice Bank of Belize, and we have answered every single question posed to us.

I'm sorry you have a bad taste left in your mouth from your Epassporte experience, but please don't tar us with the same brush purely because we are offering a similar service.

signupdamnit 10-14-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17606061)
We have stated clearly who owns the company; Octav Moise is the president and part owner, and there is a group of private investors.

Not that I think Payoneer is any better but why not get Mr. Moise to come here and engage in a little question and answer session with GFY members? That would probably help quite a bit assuming all is legit. I also think the secret investors make people nervous. People conducting due diligence checks ideally want to know who the owners are in order to make sure they are reputable and have not screwed people in the past.

Shap 10-14-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17606061)
We have stated clearly who owns the company; Octav Moise is the president and part owner, and there is a group of private investors. The company was incorporated in 2007 and I'd be happy to provide you with our business registration number.

We have an office location available for you to meet up with the president and other staff, and we'd love to invite you to come visit Shap. We're located in Quebec, here is our address:

Paxum Inc.
6600 Trans Canada Highway, suite 750
Pointe-Claire, QC, H9R4S2
Canada

We have provided information relating to the banks that we use; BMO and Choice Bank of Belize, and we have answered every single question posed to us.

I'm sorry you have a bad taste left in your mouth from your Epassporte experience, but please don't tar us with the same brush purely because we are offering a similar service.

Thanks for the offer.

You guys get a year or two under your belt and we'll talk (and I mean a year or two starting now not dating back to 2007). Nobody heard of paxum until this epassporte fiasco.

Klen 10-14-2010 08:21 AM

Funny i wanted to ask same question.People requesting paxum/cashx somuch yet there is not a single testimonial of webmaster which successfully got affiliate money to it and spend it.

leonxm 10-14-2010 08:23 AM

i just requested my card :)

magicmike 10-14-2010 08:24 AM

I agree with Dave. What happens with the next payment method that ends up with peoples funds.

Lets not be too hasty people.

PR_Glen 10-14-2010 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17605165)
No card service is safe. But one is clearly safer than the other.

This is a perfect argument for not going with cards...


wires and checks are iron clad... Using multiple sponsors? Not a bad thing, nobody wants all their eggs in one basket, but if you're using hundreds than you are probably spreading your traffic too thin in the first place...

RuthB 10-14-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17606084)
Not that I think Payoneer is any better but why not get Mr. Moise to come here and engage in a little question and answer session with GFY members? That would probably help quite a bit assuming all is legit. I also think the secret investors make people nervous. People conducting due diligence checks ideally want to know who the owners are in order to make sure they are reputable and have not screwed people in the past.

Octav has visited GFY several times and answered a myriad of questions. If you do a search for "Paxum" username you'll find what I'm referring to.

Nubiles 10-14-2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17605914)
I am sticking to the point that no one has tested it and sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon.

Be wary of sponsors that jump on un-tested payment methods.

What is wrong with a sponsor who has a ton of international webmasters trying to find a better way then sending international checks which can easily get lost in the mail and can take a long time for a foreign bank to clear?

Sometimes wires are not an option for affiliates who are not getting $1000 dollar payments and those webmasters deserve to get paid just as well as anyone else does.

I highly doubt webmasters are going to be wary of sponsors who are doing everything they can to try to get the guys who send them sales paid.

signupdamnit 10-14-2010 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17606200)
Octav has visited GFY several times and answered a myriad of questions. If you do a search for "Paxum" username you'll find what I'm referring to.

Ah, I hadn't realized that was him. Maybe he should do it again?

will76 10-14-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17604963)
Am I missing something?

yeah about 10 paxum reps and about 10 paxum shills stirring up hype and telling affiliates to go tell the programs they use to get paxum.



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/13...2425a99c45.jpg

You can figure out who these webmasters are and who the reps and shills are.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17605935)
Dave is 100% right on this. There is so little business sense these days it's scary.

scary but expected, people who are idiots will continue to be idiots no matter how many times they burn themselves. At least 5 year old kid touches fire and burns himself he learns not to do it again.

It is so obvious to see who the shills for paxum are, they are either friends of them or fake nicks, but it is the same 10 people over and over in every thread that blows them hard. Some people are desperate (and stupid) and falling for the hype and pretty much jumping on the first thing that comes along that someone else said is "great".


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