If Prop 19 passes do you think you'll be allowed to ship marijuana in Cali?
 

What do you think?

Not a chance

Can you elaborate a bit more why you think that? You can ship beer, wine and cigarettes mail order so perhaps marijuana would somehow be allowed as well.

This little matter of federal law.

Pot is illegal under federal law and Obama opposes legalization.

Figure it out.

Federal laws will not allow it and I doubt you will find any carrier that would ship it. Heck some states will not even let you ship beer or wine to them.

Well if youll be able to buy joints in 7-11 why wouldnt you be allowed to ship within california, not sure what the difference is.

oh man, wow.

What makes you think you can buy joints at 7-11? Try to be a little reasonable.

Carriers dont like beer because all the mess it could make it bottles broke, I also heard that UPS has a dont ask dont tell type deal with shipping beer. They say you cant ship beer but yet my beer club beers come from UPS every month.

Is it nice living in California?

All of a sudden this state in America has become quite appealing. Im thinking this is the only place in the world I want to live in.

Fuck, can you imagine the effect this will have on tourism?

ship within the state? if it's legal to buy and consume, it'll probably be legal to ship

asked & answered!

Just dropping a name people are familiar with, that is all. If I owned a store in cali and pot becomes legal whats to stop me from selling joints in it? Yea 7-11 might be different cause its a big corporation but how about small ma and pop shops? How is that not reasonable?

not with the post office. they are a federal gov't branch and the postal inspectors will be in your ass. stick to fedex.

Finally, somebody in this post that seems to make sense!

Yea def agree with you on that one!

I have a feeling this law is not all you think it is. We shall see.

It's somewhat of a valid point. Say you want to send a nice bottle of wine to a friend in a neighboring city, where's the harm in that? Now let's say pot is completely legal to buy, sell and consume. Why can't you send that same friend a nice big spliff.

Just trying to get into the poster's mindset.

The way I read it, the law would make it legal for personal consumption and cultivation, but leave it up to local government to legislate retail sales laws. Shipping probably wouldn't be very feasible if that's the case as every town would no doubt have their own rules.

postal inspectors have jurisdiction over ALL shippers.

so if this passes, is it law? or does it have to go over another hurdle?

I know in nv it passes the first time, but the second vote it never gets through

any comment starting off with *pot being sold at 7-11* fails the validity test eh.

not unless the package is being handled by a postal employee. fedex does have a contract to fly mail, but the inspectors don't over see fedex packages.

No they don't.

That's why they call them postal inspectors instead of UPS inspectors or FedEx inspectors.

Postal inspectors can however, investigate wherever leads may take them.

that's incorrect.

Thanks for your two cents, you do bring up a very good point. :thumbsup

can you please post links to where you get your info. mine is from my father who worked for the post office for over 35 years and retired a post master.

Right now you can't ship cigarettes, thanks to Barry, so shipping marijuana ain't going to happen for a while

i stand corrected, i was misinformed many years ago and also going on obscenity prosecutions, which i believe, also include shipping obscene material via private carrier.

apparently there is no governmental agency that enforces the laws on private carriers.

UPS won't even accept a box that has alcohol labeling on it, regardless of what is actually packed inside.

There is a guy here in Louisiana who has medical card from Cali and they send it to him in the mail somehow, maybe not US mail but it gets here. They tried to bust him and he got off and now they leave him alone. I doubt I can dig up the news article but it is true.

I just shipped some shit today UPS in an old wine box. It was obvious there was no wine in the box, based on the weight...but they had no issues with the box. I didn't even think about it being an issue, so I just used to box as I normally would.

This law is nothing but a mistake.

The wine club I belong to ships me wine via UPS all the time. The only condition is that someone over 21 has to sign for it.

The short answer is "no."

If Prop 19 passes, it will not have the effect of simply rendering all marijuana-related activities in California legal.... not by a long shot.

A few things of note from the language of the Act:

and.....

In other words, passage of Prop 19 is not what a lot of people seem to imagine it to be -- the end of any and all marijuana-related prosecutions within the state of California.

And I haven't even touched on the clear continuing authority of the federal government to enforce the Controlled Substances Act. As it stands now, there is nothing to protect recipients of medical marijuana from prosecution by the feds. The courts have been quite clear on that point. (See Gonzales v. Raich among other cases)

Bingo. People have completely misinterpreted what this allows. Even though I voted for it, I am not convinced that was the best vote.

[QUOTE=dyna mo;17665061]i stand corrected, i was misinformed many years ago and also going on obscenity prosecutions, which i believe, also include shipping obscene material via private carrier.

apparently there is no governmental agency that enforces the laws on private carriers.[/QUOTE}

Sorry, I did not mean to give you that impression by a long shot.

The FBI, DEA, ICC, DOT,BATFE, EPA and a real plethora of federal agencies can and do investigate sommon carriers. I once shipped an engine from Kansas to California and although the engine had been drained of all fluids and sealed up in plastic held in place with copious amounts of duct tape, it still smelled of oil and a bit of gasoline.

BATFE showed up at my door the next day to make inquiries. They actually pulled the oil pan off to see what explosives might have been inside. It did my heart good to see those guys all greasy and smelly in their business suits.

Did Obama ever go though with stopping raids on medical maijuana user and suppliers?

eh? this wasn't from you, this was from an attorney i hired years ago to advise me on the legalities of shipping adult material.

The post office won't allow it for sure until it's legal federally. FedEx and UPS probably wouldn't want to touch it either. Especially since people might try to ship it out of the state.