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DVTimes 11-02-2011 05:04 PM

military action against Iran
 
Looks like a new war soon:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ddle-East.html

bronco67 11-02-2011 05:07 PM

Nothing to see here really...are you that starved for attention?

Dcat 11-02-2011 05:56 PM

Yes, and seems Netanyahu is now seeking cabinet support for strike on Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-on-Iran.html

:disgust

HighlyIntoxicated 11-02-2011 06:01 PM

lets hope israel is hit first.

Grapesoda 11-02-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated (Post 18533262)
lets hope israel is hit first.

well the one thing we have learned about the Arabs and the middle east lately is this: they all talk long shit until they are getting pulled from a sewer or some other shitty hole in the ground :2 cents:

HighlyIntoxicated 11-02-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18533298)
well the one thing we have learned about the Arabs and the middle east lately is this: they all talk long shit until they are getting pulled from a sewer or some other shitty hole in the ground :2 cents:

From what I've read, Iran has a much more capable military then the previously defeated middle eastern countries.

Caligari 11-02-2011 06:45 PM

yep, could be a long ass winter...

nuclear winter that is.

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WebairGerard 11-02-2011 06:55 PM

hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

Barry-xlovecam 11-02-2011 08:09 PM


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Iran threatens ...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/world/meast/iran-israel/

"The United States is fully aware that a military attack by the Zionist regime on Iran will not only cause tremendous damage to that regime, but it will also inflict serious damage to the U.S.," said Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi, commander of the joint chiefs of staff, according to the semi-official Fars News Agency.

"We, as the military, take every threat, however distant and improbable, as very real, and are fully prepared to use suitable equipment to punish any kind of mistake," he added, according to a CNN translation of his remarks.

Another semi-official Iranian news agency, ISNA, published a story in English quoting Firouzabadi as saying, "The U.S. officials know that Zionist regime's military attack against Iran will inflict heavy damages to the U.S. seriously as well as Zionist regime."
Gonna take out the Devil America too ...

Lucy - CSC 11-02-2011 09:00 PM

Oh look yet another war for Israel, Oil and the Central Banking system.

JenniDahling 11-02-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WebairGerard (Post 18533338)
hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

Unfortunately they tried during the last election, but Ahmadinejad still has pimp hand there and the rioting left casualties and injuries but nothing else.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31238321...ins-iran-vote/

Fletch XXX 11-02-2011 09:10 PM

i really wish america didnt get involved in all this middle east shit, let them kill each other but lets stay out of it and bring our troops home. they both read a book that tells them to kill each other we never gonna stop them.

Lucy - CSC 11-02-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18533463)
i really wish america didnt get involved in all this middle east shit, let them kill each other but lets stay out of it and bring our troops home. they both read a book that tells them to kill each other we never gonna stop them.

Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

BIGTYMER 11-02-2011 09:54 PM

Glad most of my money is in defense stocks. :)

Shotsie 11-02-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18533493)
Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

Are you trying to say that the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain were ALL orchestrated by the government of The United States?

96ukssob 11-02-2011 10:02 PM

If Iran attacks US... Iran 1 - US 0 :2 cents:

brassmonkey 11-02-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18533325)
yep, could be a long ass winter...

nuclear winter that is.

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we'll all be dead it takes at least 100 years. before it would clear up

blackmonsters 11-02-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WebairGerard (Post 18533338)
hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

The local population rising up is how they got Ahmadinejad into office.

:1orglaugh

DaddyHalbucks 11-02-2011 10:35 PM

Let's just get it over with. Pinning Iran to the ground is going to take alot of muscle though.

VikingMan 11-02-2011 10:43 PM

LOL @ a bunch of indoctrinated Americans giving their opinions of middle east politics based on news reports from CBS, CNN, FOX News, etc. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You might as well give your opinions on the tooth fairy.

femdomdestiny 11-03-2011 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18533522)
Are you trying to say that the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain were ALL orchestrated by the government of The United States?

On what planet do you live? IN some countries it is even not a secret anymore.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

Sin_Vraal 11-03-2011 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated (Post 18533320)
From what I've read, Iran has a much more capable military then the previously defeated middle eastern countries.

Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

you wouldn't even have to roll in, just destroy the roads and infrastructure and watch them starve to death.

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

No, I dont think their military is even semi relevant. because in 2-3 months they'd be riding horses anyway.

If there is one thing we do right in the USA, its building weapons to keep 3rd world countries in the 3rd world.

And no, this wouldnt be another soviet - iran style war, because unlike troops, Drones dont get tired or demoralized. They are run 24/7 by teams of nerds who go home at night to be replaced by someone else waiting to press the DIE DIE DIE button.

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

moeloubani 11-03-2011 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal (Post 18533690)
Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

you wouldn't even have to roll in, just destroy the roads and infrastructure and watch them starve to death.

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

No, I dont think their military is even semi relevant. because in 2-3 months they'd be riding horses anyway.

If there is one thing we do right in the USA, its building weapons to keep 3rd world countries in the 3rd world.

And no, this wouldnt be another soviet - iran style war, because unlike troops, Drones dont get tired or demoralized. They are run 24/7 by teams of nerds who go home at night to be replaced by someone else waiting to press the DIE DIE DIE button.

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

Just like they have been winning against the Taliban in Afghanistan, right?

Don't underestimate a population resisting a foreign occupation. The Taliban had way less weaponry than Iran could even dream of and is still fighting the US with all their airplanes and drones and all of that. It's funny how the idea that Iran would strike the US first is absurd and all these plans are for a first strike on Iran, but that's the reason the US is giving for striking Iran first, that Iran might one day somehow put the US in danger.

Theo 11-03-2011 02:40 AM

not again..

Shotsie 11-03-2011 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18533686)
On what planet do you live? IN some countries it is even not a secret anymore.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

I'm sorry, but i'm going to need to see something a little more credible than youtube conspiracy videos to sway my opinion. Next you'll be trying to tell us that there's no such thing as Salafi Mujahideen such as Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbul Mujahideen, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, The Abu Sayyaf Group, and the 20 or 30 other terrorist groups that I missed.


You middle eastern sympathizers are just as annoying as the AIPAC funded American Israel-firsters. You won't mention that the Sunni Arab states have been the most vehement in urging a U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, as the wikileaks cables have shown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6AS02B20101129 You won't mention the fact that the Iranians are completely surrounded by an overwhelmingly more numerous Sunni world that hates Shi'ites far more than it hates Westerners. You won't mention the fact that Egypt's Coptic Christian population is having their churches burned and being routinely killed.


The fact is that Islam is a militant religion, and these Mujahideen groups all seek the same thing: strict implementation of Sharia law in a restored Islamic Caliphate. If you do not think that Sharia law is totalitarian, then you should Google what life is like in Somalia under Al- Shabaab and what life was like in Afghanistan under the Taliban and what life was like in Iraq in areas controlled by al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sharia ranks among the most inhumane, barbaric and totalitarian legal codes ever devised by human beings. It governs every aspect (even the minutest aspects) of a person's life. Osama bin Laden once said that the Taliban form of government in Afghanistan was "the only truly Islamic government," implying that it should be replicated everywhere else.

femdomdestiny 11-03-2011 03:28 AM

And you will try to talk to me about muslim extremism and I live in country where USA armed and supported same those muslims to take 1/3 of my country, demolish churches and clean non Muslim residents? (hell yes, it happened 2 times in different parts in 10 years) I am not supporter of any middle eastern nation and there is no reason for that. It is their and absolutely their thing what they will do in their own country and how they will choose to live.

You tube video is not a montage made from stupid photos and music, it narrated directly by person who did it and openly did in my country for years (hanged on TV for so many years),and all of his collaborators are now rich people (they even got small island on Maldives!). If that is not enough for you , well....ok,but that's is exactly why USA must keep hundreds of military bases worldwide and embassies in trenches with barbwire. (ignorance and arrogance).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNe...eature=related

Sin_Vraal 11-03-2011 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18533705)
Just like they have been winning against the Taliban in Afghanistan, right?

Don't underestimate a population resisting a foreign occupation. The Taliban had way less weaponry than Iran could even dream of and is still fighting the US with all their airplanes and drones and all of that. It's funny how the idea that Iran would strike the US first is absurd and all these plans are for a first strike on Iran, but that's the reason the US is giving for striking Iran first, that Iran might one day somehow put the US in danger.

Chasing a bunch of peasants around in the mountains in my mind is a waste of time. The group which was (supposedly) responsible for WTC bombings is more or less dismantled.

Iran on the other hand is an actual country. with Cities, an economy and some sort of global reach. If they as a country want to hide in the mountains from drones for the next decade, then I would consider that a reasonable victory.

I assure you if Bin laden didnt want to stick it out in the mountains, the city folk and towns folk in Iran wont want to either :1orglaugh

PS: US doesnt like to occupy shit. that would show us for the imperialists we really are.

Shotsie 11-03-2011 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 18533769)
And you will try to talk to me about muslim extremism and I live in country where USA armed and supported same those muslims to take 1/3 of my country, demolish churches and clean non Muslim residents? (hell yes, it happened 2 times in different parts in 10 years) I am not supporter of any middle eastern nation and there is no reason for that. It is their and absolutely their thing what they will do in their own country and how they will choose to live.

You tube video is not a montage made from stupid photos and music, it narrated directly by person who did it and openly did in my country for years (hanged on TV for so many years),and all of his collaborators are now rich people (they even got small island on Maldives!). If that is not enough for you , well....ok,but that's is exactly why USA must keep hundreds of military bases worldwide and embassies in trenches with barbwire. (ignorance and arrogance).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNe...eature=related

From what I understand NATO supported the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia from Yugoslavia, which pissed of Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs who dominated the government and the political process. I was also under the impression that it was the Serbs who carried out the ethnic cleansing and genocide in that area, and that's why NATO stepped in. I'll admit I don't know much about the Balkan wars though.

halfpint 11-03-2011 03:58 AM

Fucking great two broke ass countrys have the money to start yet another war

femdomdestiny 11-03-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18533789)
From what I understand NATO supported the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia from Yugoslavia, which pissed of Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs who dominated the government and the political process. I was also under the impression that it was the Serbs who carried out the ethnic cleansing and genocide in that area, and that's why NATO stepped in. I'll admit I don't know much about the Balkan wars though.

thank you for being honest. Well, it wasn't like that at all in a same way as there were no WMD in iraq and bullshit like that. If you really want to understand what happened, here it is one relatively new documentary (there are dozen available on same subject) where you will find in one place see how Musllims were armed by US in Tuzla during ceasefire and peace talks and how germany with US help and encouraged republics above to start war (giving them weapons at first place) .If you don't want to spend your time on things from history, it's fine and understandable but if you find time, take a look at this and you will see that those are serious things and it was nevers so simple as official explanation : http://www.movie2k.to/The-Weight-of-...ie-675439.html

sambucas 11-03-2011 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18533493)
Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

You are right about most things however I don't think it's about Oil. I think that the people who hi-jacked America simply select countries that have oil for attack so American taxpayers will think that they will at least have something out of this. But in reality it's much more simple. It's simply about creating the demand to buy ridiculously overpriced military equipment from military industrial complex.

USA is the country that is run by bomb salesmen so it will never stop bombimbing.

blazin 11-03-2011 05:18 AM

If Iran has nukes... then who can blame them... when the west and Israel want to bomb them.

Lucy - CSC 11-03-2011 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18533838)
You are right about most things however I don't think it's about Oil. I think that the people who hi-jacked America simply select countries that have oil for attack so American taxpayers will think that they will at least have something out of this. But in reality it's much more simple. It's simply about creating the demand to buy ridiculously overpriced military equipment from military industrial complex.

USA is the country that is run by bomb salesmen so it will never stop bombimbing.

Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

Grapesoda 11-03-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal (Post 18533690)
Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

really all depoends on what russia and china decide

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I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.
nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights :2 cents:

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As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.
bring back looting?

scottybuzz 11-03-2011 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18534031)
Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

yes congratulations retard, you have cracked the big wide plan open. :1orglaugh

iwantchixx 11-03-2011 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18533169)
Nothing to see here really...are you that starved for attention?

That's a pretty idiotic thing to say.

Do you even understand the ramification of an Israeli/Iranian war?

seeandsee 11-03-2011 07:25 AM

that would be nuclear war then, Israel and Iran would be use their weapons and shit will start

sambucas 11-03-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18534031)
Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

This link actually supports what I said, you see oil is the last on the list. I think that the Wolfowitz Doctrine is the concequence of this polocy of creating the demand for military hardware not vice versa. It is more of a political sharade that attempts to mascarade the endless invasions into small countries incapable of defending themselves as a political doctrine. It's just a big scam aimed at US taxpayer's dollar.

I don't really know who they are Zionists or neo-cons, I know that America has been hi-jacked.

Sin_Vraal 11-03-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18534044)
really all depoends on what russia and china decide

They will decide the same thing that they decided with libya... to sit down and dont piss off the devil. China might be a economic powerhouse right now, and might have a vast army, but we are still the Angels of death.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18534044)

nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights :2 cents:

Possibly, but I would note that we dont even have problems using regular bombs at all. I have a feeling your wrong...Lets agree to disagree and hope it never comes to nukes.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18534044)

bring back looting?

The US government already loots. I am fine with this. So long as they divide the spoils amongst the people that they 'Govern'. I am proposing equitable looting rights... not them giving to a handful of people.

moeloubani 11-03-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18533741)
I'm sorry, but i'm going to need to see something a little more credible than youtube conspiracy videos to sway my opinion. Next you'll be trying to tell us that there's no such thing as Salafi Mujahideen such as Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbul Mujahideen, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, The Abu Sayyaf Group, and the 20 or 30 other terrorist groups that I missed.


You middle eastern sympathizers are just as annoying as the AIPAC funded American Israel-firsters. You won't mention that the Sunni Arab states have been the most vehement in urging a U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, as the wikileaks cables have shown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6AS02B20101129 You won't mention the fact that the Iranians are completely surrounded by an overwhelmingly more numerous Sunni world that hates Shi'ites far more than it hates Westerners. You won't mention the fact that Egypt's Coptic Christian population is having their churches burned and being routinely killed.


The fact is that Islam is a militant religion, and these Mujahideen groups all seek the same thing: strict implementation of Sharia law in a restored Islamic Caliphate. If you do not think that Sharia law is totalitarian, then you should Google what life is like in Somalia under Al- Shabaab and what life was like in Afghanistan under the Taliban and what life was like in Iraq in areas controlled by al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sharia ranks among the most inhumane, barbaric and totalitarian legal codes ever devised by human beings. It governs every aspect (even the minutest aspects) of a person's life. Osama bin Laden once said that the Taliban form of government in Afghanistan was "the only truly Islamic government," implying that it should be replicated everywhere else.

LOL There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until the US invaded Iraq. You talk about Islam being a militant religion but can you show me when Muslims invaded another country halfway across the world? Now show me a Muslim country that has invaded two other countries by mass murdering the population. Doesn't happen. Bush himself said that the Iraq war was started because God told him to. Don't go blaming the bloodshed in the world on Islam, Islam did nothing until the Americans decided to go in and start bombing their countries.

Where do you get the information you have about Shiites and Sunnis hating each other? Before the Iraq and Afghanistan invasion the distinction was rarely, if ever, made between the two groups. The whole Sunni vs Shiites thing was manufactured by the US to help them with their invasion of Iraq.

So what I really meant to say is instead of making things up and pretending like you know something, why not try to actually educate yourself and learn a few things. That way people like me don't just come along and humiliate you and crush your ridiculous argument like a half finished cigarette on a windy day.


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