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Mike Honcho 03-01-2012 07:51 PM

Kim Dotcoms first interview since being released (vid)
 
http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Campbell-L...3/Default.aspx


Great watch.

Redrob 03-01-2012 08:14 PM

I'm not impressed.

DEA 03-01-2012 08:28 PM

he will be ok

kane 03-01-2012 08:31 PM

Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.

Coup 03-01-2012 08:36 PM

Gideongallery in 1.. 2..

Konda 03-01-2012 08:38 PM

How to watch this?
it says it's only available to New Zealand viewers? are all of you from NZ?

gideongallery 03-01-2012 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795446)
Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.

the safe harbor says

If it does discover such material before being contacted by the copyright owners, it is instructed to remove, or disable access to, the material itself. [512(c)(1)(A)(iii)], [512(d)(1)(C)]

The entire argument is that disabling access is not enough you have to remove the file too.


but i do find it interesting that he is making the access shifting argument

Konda 03-01-2012 08:48 PM


Rangermoore 03-01-2012 08:52 PM

This is a very good watch. I hope he wins his case. I support him and his efforts and all those like him..

baddog 03-01-2012 08:59 PM

So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.

DeanCapture 03-01-2012 09:01 PM

Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed that....

moeloubani 03-01-2012 09:03 PM

he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.

xenigo 03-01-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18795478)
So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.

In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.

I've heard MU had a policy that would restrict the access studios had to being able to delete over a certain amount of videos per day.

This guy's defense has so many holes it's hilarious. Trying to bill himself as being a file transfer service when he was selling memberships for "unlimited access". That has nothing to do with being able to download your boss's PowerPoint presentation...

He's going to have a hell of a time proving he wasn't a file sharing site. They've already got mountains of emails between him and his employees that talk about paying uploaders for trending in-demand software and movies.

FlexxAeon 03-01-2012 09:14 PM

smells mighty spinny, but i'm only about halfway thru at this point

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-01-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18795478)

So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.

http://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/g/2...st-640x360.jpg

I heard that too, although it seems as if Mr Dotcom has not been staying up on things, since Hollywood has been simultaneously releasing movies globally for years now, and contrary to what Kim stated, that did not make piracy stop.

His uncontested statements in the interview are feeble, and certainly the government took all of his lame arguments into account before busting his illegal operation.

http://i.imgur.com/0piqd.jpg

Tell it to the judge...

http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/even...till-image.jpg

ADG

gideongallery 03-01-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18795492)
In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.

actually he is setting up to make the access shifting argument in the states

many countries including Canada have recognized the concept that your doing no economic damage if the price of the item is zero (because it not for sale) at the time of infringement.



Quote:

I've heard MU had a policy that would restrict the access studios had to being able to delete over a certain amount of videos per day.

This guy's defense has so many holes it's hilarious. Trying to bill himself as being a file transfer service when he was selling memberships for "unlimited access". That has nothing to do with being able to download your boss's PowerPoint presentation...

He's going to have a hell of a time proving he wasn't a file sharing site. They've already got mountains of emails between him and his employees that talk about paying uploaders for trending in-demand software and movies.

he mentioned the fair use of backup too

and you do have a right to backup content you paid for.

kane 03-01-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18795478)
So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.

There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.

2012 03-01-2012 09:25 PM

I wonder why they singled him out ... and all these other guys are out there ? hmmm ...


FlexxAeon 03-01-2012 09:29 PM

i guess he needed to make a campaign statement of his own....

let me know when a real interview comes around

baddog 03-01-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795513)
There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.


Wow. It is amazing that kids these days think they have the right to tell business how they have to run. They are taking that customer is always right thing a little far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 18795514)
I wonder why they singled him out ... and all these other guys are out there ? hmmm ...

Because he was the biggest?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18795526)
i guess he needed to make a campaign statement of his own....

You noticed that too, huh? Talk about feeding questions, and he still could not look directly at the camera or interviewer. Wonder if he had notes on a table beside him.

gideongallery 03-01-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795513)
There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.

actually the issue isn't that there will be more money

There might be (just like the vcr)

the other possibility is that it will advance technology as theaters try and create a true competitive advantage (real 3d, 6 spectrum color etc).

SomeCreep 03-02-2012 12:25 AM

He's a big fat fuck, but you can tell he's very smart.

AllAboutCams 03-02-2012 12:39 AM

good interview but the reporter seems really slow

epitome 03-02-2012 12:42 AM

It is so painfully obvious that his lawyers told him to do this interview and exactly what to say.

BTW, I hope he's still not living in that house. It was only leased and they seized all of his assets. Unless he pre-paid the lease (somewhat likely), he shouldn't have the funds to live there.

kane 03-02-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18795715)
It is so painfully obvious that his lawyers told him to do this interview and exactly what to say.

BTW, I hope he's still not living in that house. It was only leased and they seized all of his assets. Unless he pre-paid the lease (somewhat likely), he shouldn't have the funds to live there.

I wonder if he has cash stashed somewhere that wasn't seized.

I also wonder if one of his buddies will end up rolling over on him and testifying against him.

You know that is why they charged these guys with all of the things they did. Their hope is that they can sit one of the other guys down and offer him a deal that is just a fine and probation in exchange for giving up all the dirt on Kim and the operation.

StickyGreen 03-02-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho (Post 18795379)

No this is a great watch:

http://menpulse.com/wp-content/uploa...World-Time.jpg

Paul Markham 03-02-2012 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18795483)
he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.

So if you can't get a bus when you want it, you can steal a car. Because you would pay for a lift home, but one isn't available. :upsidedow

Great way to justify crime.

Paul Markham 03-02-2012 01:46 AM

The root of the problem is as Kim says, some of the world hasn't moved with the speed of the Internet. Outdated DMCA, outdated copyright laws, outdated laws to protect the producers from scum who think if they have any reason they feel fits. They can steal.

DMCA needs to a be a proper legal process and include hosting, billing, advertising, links off and to the site also uploaders and downloaders who have to be revealed. The moment they are risking getting dragged into court, they will drop connection with piracy. The fear of being caught reduces crime.

Providing or obtaining services like billing, advertising, selling traffic also have to be made a crime.

I stopped watching after the break, this is just stupid interview that he answers questions with lies and half truths.

alextokyo 03-02-2012 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18795791)
So if you can't get a bus when you want it, you can steal a car. Because you would pay for a lift home, but one isn't available. :upsidedow

Great way to justify crime.

Not sure how this concerns you, since your content is so bad that people don't even bother to steal it. :1orglaugh

Anyway, that interviewer has the worst posture I've ever seen. Fucking Auzealanders and their hump backs.

Dirty F 03-02-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18795483)
he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.

Uh wow. How about you don't watch them then? Ever considered that option?

Django 03-02-2012 03:25 AM

If you're going to steal, be sure you steal a lot

Paul Markham 03-02-2012 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18795483)
he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.

So in Ontario you can't afford a DVD recorder that allows you to record the programs. Then you will have to go without and not steal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18795692)
He's a big fat fuck, but you can tell he's very smart.

Not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18795492)
In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.

I'm wondering if this guy's ego hasn't got the better of him. His replies are stupid and if he uses them in the dock, he's going to get torn to shreds.

Products not released at the right time. = So why all the released and available products on your servers?

We can't monitor our servers by US law = And ignored the laws that didn't suit us.

800 files per second so to big to monitor. = And he was making millions instead of paying people to monitor.

Piracy was only a small part of our business. = On servers we didn't monitor, how did he know this?

If you produce a product people want they will come to you. = Or come to him to get it for free.

And he continued to put himself deeper in the hole. I would bet money his lawyers told him not to do this interview, he's just so egotistical and believes sharing is good, if he makes money, he ignored the advice.

The problem is so many agree with him. Until they lose their jobs because they are victims.

Hentaikid 03-02-2012 04:21 AM

I thought this interview was pay to view, has it been pirated? That would be hilarious.

The notion that millions of files uploaded were too much to monitor doesn't hold, sure, file per file it's not possible, but look at your referrer logs, see that every month a site like ninjavideo or seriesyonkis sends you millions of hits, you're telling me you're never going to feel curious and check just what the hell kind of site that is?

This is all granting the la la fantasy that he didn't know anything and is a pure little innocent lamb, of course.

DWB 03-02-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18795464)

Stopped watching at 3:00. He is delusional.

Too bad the feds have his emails and skype records for the past several years that supposedly contradict what he is saying.

seeandsee 03-02-2012 05:32 AM

My wife is pregannt, buhaha, law is protecting us, 3rd parties upload illegal stuff, blaahaha he was sending a file , file is too large, blahblah let's share other people stuff for free

alextokyo 03-02-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18795877)
So in Ontario you can't afford a DVD recorder that allows you to record the programs. Then you will have to go without and not steal.


Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start. :321GFY

Fletch XXX 03-02-2012 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795446)
Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.

they already botched the case, half the world thinks he is already GUILTY and was sentenced, cant have fair trial anywhere in the world.

he will walk.

AllAboutCams 03-02-2012 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18796518)
Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start. :321GFY

thats the same here

Deputy Chief Command 03-02-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18796518)
Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start. :321GFY

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/


these shows are actually provided for free if you are living in their target region

so if you would watch these shows using a VPN service and thus circumvent the region restriction is this considered to be "piracy" or "illegal" as well?



I use a VPN service all the time to watch things on bbc iplayer , hulu or any other region restricted video service. It is amazing how many tv-shows are available for free one day after airing if you live in the "good" region. All the newest simpsons, family guy, tonight show. Everything

AllAboutCams 03-02-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18796608)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/


these shows are actually provided for free if you are living in their target region

so if you would watch these shows using a VPN service and thus circumvent the region restriction is this considered to be "piracy" or "illegal" as well?



I use a VPN service all the time to watch things on bbc iplayer , hulu or any other region restricted video service. It is amazing how many tv-shows are available for free one day after airing if you live in the "good" region. All the newest simpsons, family guy, tonight show. Everything

what vpn i used hide my ass but it was too slow


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