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candyflip 08-10-2012 10:47 AM

Google News - Punishing Pirate Sites
 
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Quote:

Google constantly tweaks how its search engine delivers results to people, but it's rolling out a major new change next week: it'll start generally downranking sites that receive a high volume of copyright infringement notices from copyright holders. Google says the move is designed to "help users find legitimate, quality sources of content more easily" ? meaning that it's trying to direct people who search for movies, TV shows, and music to sites like Hulu and Spotify, not torrent sites or data lockers like the infamous MegaUpload.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/10/32...copyright-dmca

DamageX 08-10-2012 10:50 AM

I'll believe it when I see it.

DamageX 08-10-2012 10:52 AM

Oh and BTW... If they DO do this, it's not because they give a flying fuck about the copyright holders. It's because THEY will be hassled with a lot fewer DMCA requests.

Google is evil.

digitalfantasies 08-10-2012 10:52 AM

so youtube will get a penalty

DamageX 08-10-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19114298)
so youtube will get a penalty

ROTFL no, only THE OTHER pirates. :)

Nifty way to squeeze out the competition actually.

u-Bob 08-10-2012 10:59 AM

*cough* negative seo *cough*

Best-In-BC 08-10-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114311)
ROTFL no, only THE OTHER pirates. :)

Nifty way to squeeze out the competition actually.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

isteve 08-10-2012 11:01 AM

Whatever their reason is for doing this, the result is still very good for copyright owners...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114295)
Oh and BTW... If they DO do this, it's not because they give a flying fuck about the copyright holders. It's because THEY will be hassled with a lot fewer DMCA requests.

Google is evil.


isteve 08-10-2012 11:03 AM

So youtube is a pirate site now?

There is pirates on youtube, but youtube is not operated by pirates. Come on, you cant be serious. ..

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114311)
ROTFL no, only THE OTHER pirates. :)

Nifty way to squeeze out the competition actually.


DamageX 08-10-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by isteve (Post 19114320)
So youtube is a pirate site now?

There is pirates on youtube, but youtube is not operated by pirates. Come on, you cant be serious. ..

YouTube is no different than any other tube site hiding behind DMCA. So calling some of those tubes "pirates", while owning & operating the world's biggest illegal tube, makes for pretty fucking huge rocks being thrown in a small glass house.

Radical Bucks 08-10-2012 11:08 AM

I hope they start with Manwin and anyone who shoots for Manwin.

GetSCORECash 08-10-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114328)
YouTube is no different than any other tube site hiding behind DMCA. So calling some of those tubes "pirates", while owning & operating the world's biggest illegal tube, makes for pretty fucking huge rocks being thrown in a small glass house.

:2 cents:

Robbie 08-10-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19114279)
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

That is good news for us honest webmasters no matter how you slice it. :)

DamageX 08-10-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19114338)
That is good news for us honest webmasters no matter how you slice it. :)

Only if it's implemented and results in a considerable loss of traffic for the big tubes, torrent sites and file lockers.

signupdamnit 08-10-2012 11:22 AM

It's about time. I'm very skeptical that they will actually apply it to porn. I can see them applying it to content related to the MPAA and RIAA but then thumbing their noses at the adult industry.

IF this does actually happen and they apply it to us we would all be very smart to start organizing campaigns to help speed along the DMCA requests and to maximize them in order to get these sites off the first page ASAP. We will all make a lot more money once these sites get buried on page 50.

signupdamnit 08-10-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 19114333)
I hope they start with Manwin and anyone who shoots for Manwin.

Bury Google in valid DMCAs for them. Make it a joint operation between hudreds or thousands of content owners. That might do the trick.

Klen 08-10-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114343)
Only if it's implemented and results in a considerable loss of traffic for the big tubes, torrent sites and file lockers.

That would be killing.Literally :1orglaugh

helterskelter808 08-10-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114328)
YouTube is no different than any other tube site hiding behind DMCA. So calling some of those tubes "pirates", while owning & operating the world's biggest illegal tube, makes for pretty fucking huge rocks being thrown in a small glass house.

What's "illegal" about Youtube then? Take your time.

DamageX 08-10-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19114404)
What's "illegal" about Youtube then? Take your time.

The same thing that's "illegal" about all porn tubes. Take your time.

helterskelter808 08-10-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114424)
The same thing that's "illegal" about all porn tubes. Take your time.

Which is? Take your time.

halfpint 08-10-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19114404)
What's "illegal" about Youtube then? Take your time.

You could argue the same thing about file lockers, forums, porn tube sites and just about any other site that allows user content to be posted and earn money from it, They are not run by pirates, Pirates just use them as a tool

DamageX 08-10-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19114432)
Which is?

I know you're trying to show me I'm not the "know-it-all" you think I act like, but seriously... Pick your battles, son.

helterskelter808 08-10-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114438)
I know you're trying to show me I'm not the "know-it-all" you think I act like, but seriously... Pick your battles, son.

I'm just asking you a simple question, old man. Why is Youtube "illegal"?

helterskelter808 08-10-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19114435)
You could argue the same thing about file lockers, forums, porn tube sites and just about any other site that allows user content to be posted and earn money from it, They are not run by pirates, Pirates just use them as a tool

Many sites are set up to facilitate piracy. Youtube is not one of them. Which is obvious to anyone who doesn't have an axe to grind. Perhaps some people just don't like Youtube's negative policy towards people using it for marketing and strategy.

DamageX 08-10-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19114450)
I'm just asking you a simple question, old man. Why is Youtube "illegal"?

You know, you got me, I have no fucking clue. Happy? :)

Now, can you pipe down so we can get back to the subject at hand and discuss how this will affect the adult industry, if implemented? Thank you.

signupdamnit 08-10-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19114457)
Many sites are set up to facilitate piracy. Youtube is not one of them.

I agree. They have a repeat infringer policy which is actually enforced. After three strikes they will either suspend or delete your account and all videos you upload. I've seen many legal videos deleted because the account holder uploaded a bunch of other copyrighted material and so had ALL their videos removed. Youtube does not play around. If the tubes in our industry did as Youtube does it would make a big difference in our industry as far as piracy.

Harmon 08-10-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114458)
You know, you got me, I have no fucking clue. Happy? :)

Now, can you pipe down so we can get back to the subject at hand and discuss how this will affect the adult industry, if implemented? Thank you.

Actually I'd like to hear your answer as well.

Harmon 08-10-2012 01:31 PM

Youtube doesn't want pirated shit on their site, where as tube sites thrive off of it, and they know it. 98% of shit on tube sites was uplaoded by the owner or his/her employees under fake accounts in order to fill it with content.

Comparing YouTube to YouPorn, Tube8 or the like is just ridiculous and naive.

Paul Markham 08-10-2012 01:35 PM

Be thankful for small morsels.

brassmonkey 08-10-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114328)
YouTube is no different than any other tube site hiding behind DMCA. So calling some of those tubes "pirates", while owning & operating the world's biggest illegal tube, makes for pretty fucking huge rocks being thrown in a small glass house.

bullshit! :2 cents:

Harmon 08-10-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19114519)
Be thankful for small morsels.

Be thankful for Life Alert
http://www.lifealert.com/images/jack...dcantgetup.jpg

Robbie 08-10-2012 04:10 PM

It simply is not possible for any thread on GFY to ever actually stay on subject. No matter how important something may be for our industry it always comes back to trolling and name calling. It's like a kindergarten around here. lol

CyberHustler 08-10-2012 04:18 PM

I smell nervousness...

V_RocKs 08-10-2012 04:35 PM

Interesting... Hope the people sending out DMCA's to tubes now sent a copy to Google.

Jel 08-10-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19114328)
YouTube is no different than any other tube site hiding behind DMCA. So calling some of those tubes "pirates", while owning & operating the world's biggest illegal tube, makes for pretty fucking huge rocks being thrown in a small glass house.

A-fucking-men :thumbsup

Jel 08-10-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19114512)
Youtube doesn't want pirated shit on their site, where as tube sites thrive off of it, and they know it. 98% of shit on tube sites was uplaoded by the owner or his/her employees under fake accounts in order to fill it with content.

Comparing YouTube to YouPorn, Tube8 or the like is just ridiculous and naive.

Actually, good point there.

Struggle4Bucks 08-10-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19114279)
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Google constantly tweaks how its search engine delivers results to people, but it's rolling out a major new change next week: it'll start generally downranking sites that receive a high volume of copyright infringement notices from copyright holders. Google says the move is designed to "help users find legitimate, quality sources of content more easily" ? meaning that it's trying to direct people who search for movies, TV shows, and music to sites like Hulu and Spotify, not torrent sites or data lockers like the infamous MegaUpload.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/10/32...copyright-dmca

If the mthrfckrs "want to help users find legitimate, quality sources of content more easily", then why did they stop sending my legitimate site the traffic I had??? I strongly depend on my affiliates and their traffic so fuck google... but it was good to gradually see more traffic coming from the SE after years... Since last week some good searchterms that started to give me some nice traffic all off a sudden put tubes and a lot of non-relevant garbage content on the first pages...

Google is like a whining adulterous whore you can`t rely on... and for me that means:
put the bitch on the street and don`t give her the atention that she doesn`t deserve....

brassmonkey 08-10-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19114794)
It simply is not possible for any thread on GFY to ever actually stay on subject. No matter how important something may be for our industry it always comes back to trolling and name calling. It's like a kindergarten around here. lol

its in the name

Robbie 08-10-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19114833)
its in the name

yeah, I know...it seems like back when this site first started, it was mostly people who were actually in this business. And we all kinda knew each other. And all kinds of hell raising went on, but in a serious business thread it never did.

Today? It's like every other fucking post is somebody either trying to be "witty" or "shocking". Everybody seems to be screaming "look at me and what an asshole I can be" instead of contributing to the conversation (in serious threads).

Place needs an enema. lol

Paul Markham 08-11-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 19114821)
Interesting... Hope the people sending out DMCA's to tubes now sent a copy to Google.

that would be common sense, so why are you posting it here? :1orglaugh


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