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mikesouth 11-07-2012 12:45 AM

Measure B Passes
 
from http://www.mikesouth.com

This ones a done deal
with 33% of precincts voting

B - SAFER SEX IN ADULT FILMS -
YES 513,580 60.45%
NO 336,001 39.55%

This is a win for Measure B

mozadek 11-07-2012 12:48 AM

Fucking pathetic.

The Ghost 11-07-2012 12:56 AM

The question now is what will those studios do: Leave, comply or ignore

mikesouth 11-07-2012 12:57 AM

they will challenge it in court the lose unless they get their shit together

fitzmulti 11-07-2012 01:01 AM

What a freakin' waste of time, energy, and resources...
Condom Cop Patrol! :P
:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY

LDM Talent 11-07-2012 01:25 AM

So what is the deal with this? Is this nation wide or just cali?

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19299476)
The question now is what will those studios do: Leave, comply or ignore


fitzmulti 11-07-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDM Talent (Post 19299508)
So what is the deal with this? Is this nation wide or just cali?

Los Angeles County.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...177573761.html

Paul&John 11-07-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzmulti (Post 19299537)

Hm then they will just move out of LA and it's everything ok, right? Or they will just say they didn't shoot the indoor porn in LA..? :)

CyberHustler 11-07-2012 02:17 AM

Why is this industry so anti-condom?

Paul&John 11-07-2012 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19299571)
Why is this industry so anti-condom?

I personally don't like watching porn where a pussy is fucked using a condom :)

CyberHustler 11-07-2012 02:27 AM

I thought the same, until I saw Wicked's new ads... they make condom porn look good. You could rub one off just to one of their banners.

The Ghost 11-07-2012 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19299586)
I thought the same, until I saw Wicked's new ads... they make condom porn look good. You could rub one off just to one of their banners.

Post one. TIA

Paul Markham 11-07-2012 03:51 AM

Anyone who expected anything else was dreaming while on acid.

notinmybackyard 11-07-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19299571)
Why is this industry so anti-condom?

Because if you produce the gonzo genre it equals to about a 40% to 50% more sales. Feature films the impact is minimal.

xanadu 11-07-2012 04:06 AM

its 56,5-43,5 now at 74% of the votes, maybe the final difference will be even smaller but hard to change the end result, probably it will be 54-46 at the end if it continues with the same rythm(was almost 70-30 in the start....)

sucks to be so close, i am sure if the industry had come together more and act a bit faster, we would have easily avoid it :(

Its not the end of porn of course but a sad day for sure....

Instead of becoming more socially accepted and open more markets for our work/products, we keep being regulated from others on our behalf...

DWB 11-07-2012 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 19299581)
I personally don't like watching porn where a pussy is fucked using a condom :)

Me neither. But I watch censored Japanese porn with no problem.

Matyko 11-07-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 19299581)
I personally don't like watching porn where a pussy is fucked using a condom :)

+1 :2 cents: :pimp

DWB 11-07-2012 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanadu (Post 19299671)
Instead of becoming more socially accepted and open more markets for our work/products, we keep being regulated from others on our behalf...

Cause and effect. :2 cents:

Serious-Partner 11-07-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19299476)
The question now is what will those studios do: Leave, comply or ignore

They will come to nearest states and shoot there. That's all. :2 cents:

DWB 11-07-2012 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serious-Partner (Post 19299688)
They will come to nearest states and shoot there. That's all. :2 cents:

That or just ignore it.

I find it hard to believe California of all places has the money to enforce this. The state is completely broke. At best maybe a couple of the large targets may get a visit or two, but the funds are not there to keep it going.

JuicyBunny 11-07-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19299742)
That or just ignore it.

I find it hard to believe California of all places has the money to enforce this. The state is completely broke. At best maybe a couple of the large targets may get a visit or two, but the funds are not there to keep it going.

Good ol Cali. Spend $20 to save $10. Do they somehow think this is going to stem the rising tide of STD's in the gen pop?

I watch a fair amount of Japanese porn with condoms. As the guy pulls out he slips it off and still gets the cumshot to the face/body/mouth. Will something like that be illegal in LA county now?

DWB 11-07-2012 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 19299809)

I watch a fair amount of Japanese porn with condoms. As the guy pulls out he slips it off and still gets the cumshot to the face/body/mouth. Will something like that be illegal in LA county now?

Good question. I'd guess they can not exchange fluids, which would probably also rule out kissing and 65 guy bukkake scenes.

topnotch, standup guy 11-07-2012 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19299476)
The question now is what will those studios do: Leave, comply or ignore

All of the above probably.

As for the one's that comply.. it'll be easy to spot their product in the future.

http://img.rodastjarnan.com/gasmaske...e-14566-c1.jpg

AllAboutCams 11-07-2012 06:37 AM

Does this mean blowjobs with a condom

xanadu 11-07-2012 06:39 AM

1,171,287 YES 55.85%
925,782 NO 44.15%

100% of votes

topnotch, standup guy 11-07-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19299818)
Does this mean blowjobs with a condom

Yeah, that sounds like something that'll really sell :1orglaugh

Porn will move out of LA County. Simple as that.


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notinmybackyard 11-07-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanadu (Post 19299671)
Instead of becoming more socially accepted and open more markets for our work/products, we keep being regulated from others on our behalf...

Sad day for los angeles gonzo producing pornographers but it is opportunity for pornographers in other parts of your nation.

But having said that,
Porn should always be an underground industry. Because the moment it becomes mainstream..The money earned becomes garbarge due to too many people looking for a share of the profits and then there is the problem with regulations, etc.

This condom law might turn out to be good thing for the United States porn industry. Du to it maybe start driving the business back underground.

DWB 11-07-2012 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19299829)
Porn should always be an underground industry.

:2 cents:

And assholes, cheaters, scammers, and thieves are dealt with appropriately, which is with baseball bats.

TheSquealer 11-07-2012 07:18 AM

Obviously it passed.

People don't care about "pornographers" and think they are assholes... so any campaign like those I saw by "pornographers" was little more than telling people "do the opposite of what we say and want because as you know, we are asshole... OH! and P.S. Oprah Winfrey, Steve Hirsch has an offer for you to do a bukkake scene" - That's all people read. You are a bunch of dickheads with zero credibility in the eyes of the public. You are scum. You are predators and you are losers. To the public, you are still just a bunch of pimps with gold teeth, unbuttoned shirts, hairy chests preying on runaway teens. Every fucking idiot that got behind the idea to make an appeal on behalf of the industry should be fired from their jobs immediately.

Then there was the fact that there was no single, simple message. "Hope and Change" etc. It was a bunch of unbelievable and nonsensical scare tactics showing people in biohazard suits and direct appeals to consumers (people who could care less) with random, inconsistent messages. Really dipshits? Basic marketing 101. You need a single, simple, clear message that not only resonates with and appeals to the customer but that is instantly credible and believable. You all failed miserably in that department, being the fragmented, individualist, antisocial group of shits that you are. What a shocker.

The issue at hand is simple.

Safety.

You will not win an argument against safety unless you can prove the proposed measure "for" is dangerous. End of story. This is how it works in the real world. This is why we have warnings on hair dryers not to use them while standing in the shower. Get it? There is no argument against warning people and only arguments for, hence the warning.

This business is so full of ineptitude and stupidity, that its difficult at times to even decide where to begin in pointing it out.

One a final note... Uhm.... really? You honestly think that there should be no rules and regulations regarding the spread of contagious and deadly disease in the work place? What fucking planet are you living on where you don't see the government eventually getting involved? Testing is extremely flawed. In what other industry does this happen where safety issues aren't regulated? You can't cook in a kitchen without a hair net... but it should be ok to run around spraying HIV, Hepatitis and everything else all over each others faces? There is no word that describes how retarded you are to think thats how it should be. In fact, a new word will need to be invented to describe the level of stupidity for most of the morons in this biz.

Every single argument you fucking morons have is a losing argument. Testing is flawed. People fake tests/cheat. Models escort. Disease is rampant. Disease affects everyone.. not just the people on the film set. ... and you people are again, proving to the public why you are just a bunch of assholes that should never be trusted or believed and should remain on the fringe.

DWB 11-07-2012 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19299886)
Obviously it passed.

People don't care about "pornographers" and think they are assholes... so any campaign like those I saw by "pornographers" was little more than telling people "do the opposite of what we say and want because as you know, we are asshole... OH! and P.S. Oprah Winfrey, Steve Hirsch has an offer for you to do a bukkake scene" - That's all people read.

You are a bunch of dickheads with zero credibility in the eyes of the public. You are scum. You are predators and you are losers. To the public, you are still just a bunch of pimps with gold teeth, unbuttoned shirts, hairy chests preying on runaway teens.

Every fucking idiot that got behind the idea to make an appeal on behalf of the industry should be fired from their jobs immediately.

Then there was the fact that there was no single, simple message. "Hope and Change" etc. It was a bunch of unbelievable and nonsensical scare tactics showing people in biohazard suits and direct appeals to consumers (people who could care less) with random, inconsistent messages. Really dipshits? Basic marketing 101. You need a single, simple, clear message that not only resonates with and appeals to the customer but that is instantly credible and believable. You all failed miserably in that department, being the fragmented, individualist, antisocial group of shits that you are.

The issue at hand is simple.

Safety.

You will not win an argument against safety unless you can prove the proposed measure "for" is dangerous. End of story. This is how it works in the real world. This is why we have warnings on hair dryers not to use them while standing in the shower. Get it? There is no argument against warning people and only arguments for, hence the warning.

This business is so full of ineptitude and stupidity, that its difficult at times to even decide where to begin in pointing it out.

One a final note... Uhm.... really? You honestly think that there should be no rules and regulations regarding the spread of contagious and deadly disease in the work place? What fucking planet are you living on where you don't see the government eventually getting involved?

Testing is extremely flawed. In what other industry does this happen where safety issues aren't regulated? You can't cook in a kitchen without a hair net... but it should be ok to run around spraying HIV, Hepatitis and everything else all over each others faces?

There is no word that describes how retarded you are to think thats how it should be. In fact, a new word will need to be invented to describe the level of stupidity for most of the morons in this biz.

Every single argument you fucking morons have is a losing argument. Testing is flawed. People fake tests/cheat. Models escort. Disease is rampant. Disease affects everyone.. not just the people on the film set. ... and you people are again, proving to the public why you are just a bunch of assholes that should never be trusted or believed and should remain on the fringe.

God damn, that is an awesome post. That is brutal truth to the core. :2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19299886)
In fact, a new word will need to be invented to describe the level of stupidity for most of the morons in this biz.

The word is "Manwin."

Nathan 11-07-2012 07:32 AM

It is not so obvious that it passed! 56/44 is far from obvious! We moved this from a 70/30 poll too 56/44! Our campaign had results, we just did not do enough, more support for more tv ads would have pushed this over the edge. That's the thing that we learned from this...

We will see what happens next...

TheSquealer 11-07-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19299900)
It is not so obvious that it passed! 56/44 is far from obvious! We moved this from a 70/30 poll too 56/44! Our campaign had results, we just did not do enough, more support for more tv ads would have pushed this over the edge. That's the thing that we learned from this...

We will see what happens next...

Fingers crossed! I'm sure a county full of Catholic Mexicans are going to rally behind pornographers at the last minute.

pornguy 11-07-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19299476)
The question now is what will those studios do: Leave, comply or ignore

Leaving and taking the money and jobs with them would be the best thing they could do.

The Porn Nerd 11-07-2012 07:48 AM

Time to invest in condom companies. :D

DWB 11-07-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19299900)
It is not so obvious that it passed! 56/44 is far from obvious! We moved this from a 70/30 poll too 56/44! Our campaign had results, we just did not do enough, more support for more tv ads would have pushed this over the edge. That's the thing that we learned from this...

We will see what happens next...

What you are saying is, with all the experience from the FSC, your lawyers, other industry lawyers, James Lee, top industry professionals, and everyone else, that no one knew what could have pushed it over the edge to your favor until it was over and you lost?

Sounds like a well thought out plan and money well spent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19299907)
Fingers crossed! I'm sure a county full of Catholic Mexicans are going to rally behind pornographers at the last minute.

:1orglaugh

escorpio 11-07-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19299886)
Obviously it passed.

People don't care about "pornographers" and think they are assholes... so any campaign like those I saw by "pornographers" was little more than telling people "do the opposite of what we say and want because as you know, we are asshole... OH! and P.S. Oprah Winfrey, Steve Hirsch has an offer for you to do a bukkake scene" - That's all people read. You are a bunch of dickheads with zero credibility in the eyes of the public. You are scum. You are predators and you are losers. To the public, you are still just a bunch of pimps with gold teeth, unbuttoned shirts, hairy chests preying on runaway teens. Every fucking idiot that got behind the idea to make an appeal on behalf of the industry should be fired from their jobs immediately.

Then there was the fact that there was no single, simple message. "Hope and Change" etc. It was a bunch of unbelievable and nonsensical scare tactics showing people in biohazard suits and direct appeals to consumers (people who could care less) with random, inconsistent messages. Really dipshits? Basic marketing 101. You need a single, simple, clear message that not only resonates with and appeals to the customer but that is instantly credible and believable. You all failed miserably in that department, being the fragmented, individualist, antisocial group of shits that you are. What a shocker.

The issue at hand is simple.

Safety.

You will not win an argument against safety unless you can prove the proposed measure "for" is dangerous. End of story. This is how it works in the real world. This is why we have warnings on hair dryers not to use them while standing in the shower. Get it? There is no argument against warning people and only arguments for, hence the warning.

This business is so full of ineptitude and stupidity, that its difficult at times to even decide where to begin in pointing it out.

One a final note... Uhm.... really? You honestly think that there should be no rules and regulations regarding the spread of contagious and deadly disease in the work place? What fucking planet are you living on where you don't see the government eventually getting involved? Testing is extremely flawed. In what other industry does this happen where safety issues aren't regulated? You can't cook in a kitchen without a hair net... but it should be ok to run around spraying HIV, Hepatitis and everything else all over each others faces? There is no word that describes how retarded you are to think thats how it should be. In fact, a new word will need to be invented to describe the level of stupidity for most of the morons in this biz.

Every single argument you fucking morons have is a losing argument. Testing is flawed. People fake tests/cheat. Models escort. Disease is rampant. Disease affects everyone.. not just the people on the film set. ... and you people are again, proving to the public why you are just a bunch of assholes that should never be trusted or believed and should remain on the fringe.

God, I love it when people tell the fucking truth.

notinmybackyard 11-07-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19299884)
:2 cents:

And assholes, cheaters, scammers, and thieves are dealt with appropriately, which is with baseball bats.

Despite some of the new webkiddies that are a community on their own and have no idea how to make real money. In my area of the world there are a small handful of the old school pornographers left and a couple of young ones that have learned from them.

If you want to make money you keep your head down, maintain polite but quite relations with the other pornographers and those that bring attention to themselves or the industry you avoid like a disease. Do not even acknowledge their existence or film the same girls that they use.

My advice is unless you are in Los Angeles. Ignore what is happening there and use this as an opportunity to grab market share. But if you are in Los Angeles, I wish you good luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19299900)
It is not so obvious that it passed! 56/44 is far from obvious! We moved this from a 70/30 poll too 56/44! Our campaign had results, we just did not do enough, more support for more tv ads would have pushed this over the edge. That's the thing that we learned from this...

We will see what happens next...

Next time try things the old way,

Take a politician out to for a good time, introduce him to some of the girls and make sure he gets big gifts for all the holidays. It is cheaper and more efficient.

But like most of the new people in porn that entered this industry in the last 5 to 10 years on here, I sincerly doubt you will still be around for another 5 more years.

BlackCrayon 11-07-2012 08:20 AM

why regular people are having the final say, i just don't get. it should of only been industry people who can vote for it. they are the ones being affected one way or the other.

Nathan 11-07-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19299929)
What you are saying is, with all the experience from the FSC, your lawyers, other industry lawyers, James Lee, top industry professionals, and everyone else, that no one knew what could have pushed it over the edge to your favor until it was over and you lost?

Sounds like a well thought out plan and money well spent.



:1orglaugh

Idiot. Note Money would have helped. We said so all along.

BlackCrayon 11-07-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19299886)
Obviously it passed.

People don't care about "pornographers" and think they are assholes... so any campaign like those I saw by "pornographers" was little more than telling people "do the opposite of what we say and want because as you know, we are asshole... OH! and P.S. Oprah Winfrey, Steve Hirsch has an offer for you to do a bukkake scene" - That's all people read. You are a bunch of dickheads with zero credibility in the eyes of the public. You are scum. You are predators and you are losers. To the public, you are still just a bunch of pimps with gold teeth, unbuttoned shirts, hairy chests preying on runaway teens. Every fucking idiot that got behind the idea to make an appeal on behalf of the industry should be fired from their jobs immediately.

Then there was the fact that there was no single, simple message. "Hope and Change" etc. It was a bunch of unbelievable and nonsensical scare tactics showing people in biohazard suits and direct appeals to consumers (people who could care less) with random, inconsistent messages. Really dipshits? Basic marketing 101. You need a single, simple, clear message that not only resonates with and appeals to the customer but that is instantly credible and believable. You all failed miserably in that department, being the fragmented, individualist, antisocial group of shits that you are. What a shocker.

The issue at hand is simple.

Safety.

You will not win an argument against safety unless you can prove the proposed measure "for" is dangerous. End of story. This is how it works in the real world. This is why we have warnings on hair dryers not to use them while standing in the shower. Get it? There is no argument against warning people and only arguments for, hence the warning.

This business is so full of ineptitude and stupidity, that its difficult at times to even decide where to begin in pointing it out.

One a final note... Uhm.... really? You honestly think that there should be no rules and regulations regarding the spread of contagious and deadly disease in the work place? What fucking planet are you living on where you don't see the government eventually getting involved? Testing is extremely flawed. In what other industry does this happen where safety issues aren't regulated? You can't cook in a kitchen without a hair net... but it should be ok to run around spraying HIV, Hepatitis and everything else all over each others faces? There is no word that describes how retarded you are to think thats how it should be. In fact, a new word will need to be invented to describe the level of stupidity for most of the morons in this biz.

Every single argument you fucking morons have is a losing argument. Testing is flawed. People fake tests/cheat. Models escort. Disease is rampant. Disease affects everyone.. not just the people on the film set. ... and you people are again, proving to the public why you are just a bunch of assholes that should never be trusted or believed and should remain on the fringe.

I can agree with most of that but it does nothing for public safety. such a small amount of people in porn compared to the public at large that are not practicing safe sex and in some situations, purposely spreading stds. they should of passed a law forcing ALL people to wear condoms during any kind of sexual activity if it was really about public safety and not just a way to tax and fine the adult industry.


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