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The NRA Myth of Arming the Good Guys
Mass shootings in the US are on the rise?and ordinary citizens with guns don't stop them.
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Gun bans in the USA is a red herring argument. |
Why shoould I have to give up my rights? So I can just become a helpless victim? I dont think so. Arm more citizens. |
There were armed guards in Columbine and that didn't change a damn thing.
I'm okay with the good guys having the firearms. We need to figure out way to prevent the mentally ill from getting them. That's the key. |
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Start by banning assault weapons except for military and peace officers
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BTW - Adam Lanza's mother had plenty of guns...and she was a victim. We need to take the country back from the fucking gun nuts. |
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The percentage of crime committed with assault weapons is minimal compared to the amount committed with handguns. Adam Lanza didnt even use an assault weapon, the media just jumped all over it, and the sheep believed it, because it was stated that he had a bushmaster AR15 in his car. NEWSFLASH: He didnt shoot those kids in his car. |
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Only FREAKS want assault rifles and high-capacity clips. Not hunters. Not homeowners. Not single gals who want to carry for protection. Paranoid, creepy FREAKS want these http://nationalmemo.wpengine.netdna-...-MM918-007.jpg A Barrett M82 50-Caliber Sniper Rifle - sold legally online. Start by banning the sale of these weapons of war. It's FUCKING RIDICULOUS that any kook with vein throbbing in his head can get these things. There is NO PURPOSE for such a thing but to kill en masse. |
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Doesn't matter if you have a firearm or not. It only matters who gets the first shot. |
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But this bolt-action rifle with just a 5-round magazine is ok? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
GFY is full of Supposed "Men" that have never even been in a fight.
I'm not surprised the pussification of America is Here. The Ban should be on government, If you are associated in any way, shape or form with government, you are NOT allowed at any time to posess a firearm. |
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"Yes, Columbine Had Armed Guards?And They Saved Lives!" http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...ves.htm?p=full From the cited article: "Yes, the critics respond, and there was an armed security guard at Columbine High School in 1999. Yet, 12 students and a teacher were killed by two armed intruders, as if that disqualified the solution of placing armed guards, possibly unemployed army veterans, at each of our nation's 100,000-plus schools. Yes, there was, and it was the guard's presence and the resistance he and others offered that kept the carnage less than it might have been. On April 20, 1999, Neil Gardner, an armed sheriff's deputy who had been policing the school for almost two years, was eating lunch when Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold arrived at Columbine with their deadly arsenal and deadlier intentions. Gardner said he got a call from a custodian that he was needed in the school's back parking lot. A few minutes later, he encountered Harris, and the two exchanged gunfire. The exchange with Harris lasted for an extended period of time, during which Harris' gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before SWAT teams arrived, and before Harris and Klebold eventually killed themselves in the library." Stop it with your liberal lies already! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: |
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Here I'll help.. The first sentence says that it's "slowly" declining, but still 680 deaths by accidental gun fire in the US during 2008. How many hero's saved he day with their gun in 2008? The number of accidental shooting deaths in the United States has been slowly declining for many years, although there was a slight jump in the number of deaths in 2008, the last year for which we have statistics. In 2008 there were 680 accidental shooting deaths in the United States, with more than 15,500 shooting injuries. Most disturbing, perhaps, is the number of children involved in accidental shootings. Every day approximately five children are injured or killed on a nationwide basis as a result of handguns. The primary cause of youth-involved shooting rests with the fact that children find loaded handguns in the home – and natural curiosity leads them down the road to disaster Each year approximately 100 people are injured or killed while cleaning a firearm and failing to exercise proper caution. Hunting accidents account for approximately 160 accidental shootings each year, with an average of 50 fatalities. source: http://www.thesurvivorsclub.org/extr...ental-shooting |
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Educate yourself. http://washingtonexaminer.com/media-...e#.UN42t-qQ1fo |
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I do support gun ownership, but honestly it does scare me at times that pretty much any idiot can get their hands on a gun in this country. I also have never been in a situation where I felt having a gun would help the situation. The chances of ever needing to defend one's self with a gun for the average American is probably along the same lines of your chance of being in a plane crash. Of course your chances go up if you are in bad areas, but you always have the choice to remove yourself from that area. I can tell you I've worked in some pretty bad areas before and never once did I feel my life was threatened just because I was there or that I needed a gun to protect myself. |
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so what's you're point? people with cars are stupider than people with guns? |
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how about this though. say when you're about 20 you get drunk and start a fight in bar, get arrested and spend the night in jail... no big deal happens all the time to kids, life goes on... never get in any more trouble BUT with 'rigorous mental health laws in effect' you are labeled unstable, prone to violence and assigned a negative mental health profile that follows you the rest of your life. put on medication. you have problems finding work, no bank loans, health ins denied etc... AND your kids will be labeled a genetically unstable, put on a watch list and possible medicated as well you're are supposed to be a smart guy... think about it... all these 'kids' at GFY have all these 'one stop shopping solutions' with out any life experience or understanding of the complexities of the situation.... this is the fucking reality of 'sorting out the fucking nuts' |
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More training, stricter registration & focusing on criminals/unregistered guns will have the biggest effect on deaths & shootings. It's just not gonna solve these mass type shootings like the one in Conn. Meaning I don't support a ban as a knee jerk reaction to a random mass shooting, but rather looking at the overall picture to see what could have the larger affect in curbing gun crime/violence. |
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That's roughly 45-50% of US household that have a gun meanwhile it's only about 9% of the households in the US that don't have a car or roughly 91% that do. Meaning it's far more likely for a gun owner to own more than one gun than it is for a car owner to own more than one car and simply put cars are used far more often by more people than guns, which is why they are involved in more deaths. |
We are not living in the caveman age, stone age, bronze age or whatever. We are technologically advanced right now. Still, some humans act like apes. Think about Darwin. These humans are thinking about the first time they saw a hammer, axe or metal gun. How violent can they become… Guns are most dangerous because they can create mass shootings. Are defenses really defenses? The courts are there to decide. Good luck.
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Why do armed soldiers, your own county's armed soldiers, protecting a public place seem so sinister? When you see soldiers of your own nation patrolling in an airport, a potentially dangerous public place -- why does that scare you? The alternative suggested is that teachers, with very limited training, should wear side arms in a foolish but well intentioned attempt to guarantee the safety of their charges -- that sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Who is more liable to go postal -- a teacher or a trained soldier? |
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He drew Fire so a wounded person could get away according to what I read. Also if drawing fire from a shooter, that shooter is NOT killing people at the time. (room to room style) But even if the above is not correct or they even ran away ..... TELL ME WHAT IT HURT HAVING THEM THERE? You make it seem like it made the situation WORSE, it did not, and that security guard "might" have shot and killed one of the shooters. I KNOW for a FACT that this would NOT of even been a chance of killing the shooter without the security guards and took the police what 45 minutes, an hour, what was the time? Your argument does NOT Hold any water, since having them there did not make things worse. |
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Bring our troops Home. I Loved them in the airports and other places. We are already spending the money, be cheaper to have our guys services over here than over seas in a pointless endless money pit war(s) |
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Guys, the Second Ammendment to the constitution says that: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
It doesn't specify that the "people" (which means the citizens of the United States) can only have a certain type of weapon. And banning any kind of weapon is "infringing". It's this simple...either the second ammendment will be stripped, or shut the fuck up. P.S.: LOL at "training" It ain't fucking brain surgery to shoot a gun and/or lock your gun up when you aren't using it. "training" |
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If there were no need for training then there would not be so many firearms training groups out there. |
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