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Dirty F 01-18-2013 02:35 PM

Best action movie i've seen in a long time: Dredd
 
Watched it recently at home.
Awesome flick! Just non stop action! No character development, no stupid love stories, just extreme action! Isn't that what an action movie should be about? Weird how you rarely see it like this.
It kinda reminded me of the last Rambo movie. Which was great as well.
Oh and the surround sound was insane! Best i've heard in a while.

Deej 01-18-2013 02:38 PM

really? ive been avoiding it because i figured it sucked... If youre being sarcastic I will blame you for my mass homicide shooting afterwards for the let down.

Deej 01-18-2013 02:39 PM

BTW... best movie to date that impressed me from surround sound... Constantine

Dirty F 01-18-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 19431978)
BTW... best movie to date that impressed me from surround sound... Constantine

Love that movie. Haven't watched it with surround. Will do so soon.
And i wasn't being sarcastic.
It's 90 minutes of action...from the first to the last minute. It was awesome!

Some Guy 01-18-2013 03:15 PM

I've actually heard from a few people that Dredd was awesome. Sucks it did so lousy at the box office because it was tainted by the original "Judge Dredd" with Stallone back in the 90's. For the record, I didn't think that one was as horrible as everyone made it out to be.

Have to agree that the last Rambo was pretty fucking awesome. If Dredd reminds you of it then I'm watching it for sure!

Scott McD 01-18-2013 03:25 PM

Hmmm, thought it would be one to avoid to be honest.

I'll give it a try though. Sick of boring shitty movies that i usually wish all the characters would just die in the end...

Fetish Gimp 01-18-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 19431977)
really? ive been avoiding it because i figured it sucked... If youre being sarcastic I will blame you for my mass homicide shooting afterwards for the let down.

I'd like to confirm your misgivings.

I thought Dredd was a below-average action flick and a total failure as an adaptation. It didn't have any of 2000 AD's sarcasm, social satire or humor. I would argue that Stallone's Dredd, as awful as it was, was still a better adaptation than Dredd 2012 was.

And imho the constant use of slow-mo kills the flow of the action. Slow-mo should be used sparingly, like salt in cooking. If you pour it every-fucking-where then it loses its point and just drags everything down.

Markul 01-18-2013 03:35 PM

I liked the new Dredd. Very good :-)

Dirty F 01-18-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp (Post 19432065)
I'd like to confirm your misgivings.

I thought Dredd was a below-average action flick and a total failure as an adaptation. It didn't have any of 2000 AD's sarcasm, social satire or humor. I would argue that Stallone's Dredd, as awful as it was, was still a better adaptation than Dredd 2012 was.

And imho the constant use of slow-mo kills the flow of the action. Slow-mo should be used sparingly, like salt in cooking. If you pour it every-fucking-where then it loses its point and just drags everything down.

It's used 4 times maybe, for a total of 2 mins?

Dirty F 01-18-2013 03:41 PM

And saying the first Dredd movie is better is ridiculous and you know it.
You clearly have something against this movie, which is fine, but stop making things up.

ottopottomouse 01-18-2013 03:56 PM

Not seen it. Hadn't expected it to be worth seeing.

Fetish Gimp 01-18-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19432079)
And saying the first Dredd movie is better is ridiculous and you know it.
You clearly have something against this movie, which is fine, but stop making things up.

I'm arguing Stallone's is a better adaptation, meaning they at least tried to keep some of the humour and satire from 2000 AD.

Dredd 2012 didn't have any of that. It's simply a cheap action film which just happens to have Judge Dredd as a character, keeping only the most superficial bits of the source material (omfg he didn't take the helmet off epic win)

I'll prove it to you: you can take "The Raid: Redemption" put Judge helmets on its characters and BAM you got Dredd 2012, except it would have kick-ass action.

What I have against the movie is that they completely wasted Dredd.

They could have used any generic stoic character and it wouldn't have made ANY difference. Switch Dredd with John McClane from Die Hard, no difference at all.

Dirty F 01-18-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp (Post 19432114)
I'm arguing Stallone's is a better adaptation, meaning they at least tried to keep some of the humour and satire from 2000 AD.

Dredd 2012 didn't have any of that. It's simply a cheap action film which just happens to have Judge Dredd as a character, keeping only the most superficial bits of the source material (omfg he didn't take the helmet off epic win)

I'll prove it to you: you can take "The Raid: Redemption" put Judge helmets on its characters and BAM you got Dredd 2012, except it would have kick-ass action.

What I have against the movie is that they completely wasted Dredd.

They could have used any generic stoic character and it wouldn't have made ANY difference. Switch Dredd with John McClane from Die Hard, no difference at all.

Ok, now i know what you have against this movie. It still doesn't make it a bad movie.

HushMoney 01-18-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19431975)
Watched it recently at home.
Awesome flick! Just non stop action! No character development, no stupid love stories, just extreme action! Isn't that what an action movie should be about? Weird how you rarely see it like this.
It kinda reminded me of the last Rambo movie. Which was great as well.
Oh and the surround sound was insane! Best i've heard in a while.

Sucked. Action was pretty good, but got old real fast.

Fetish Gimp 01-18-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19432125)
Ok, now i know what you have against this movie. It still doesn't make it a bad movie.

"Good", "bad" are relative terms which are determined by one's personal taste.

Everyone enjoys different things. I'm simply giving my point of view of why I think Dredd 2012 was a failure. That's why I take the time to give arguments to support my view instead of simply saying "PIECE OF SHIT MOVIE SUCKS LOL" which is the level at which most internet discussion ends up at.

And just in case, I don't think Dredd 2012 failed because I saw "The Raid: Redemption" first, and I already know that Dredd was written before "The Raid", and that point has no bearing on my arguments any ways. I think Dredd fails because it's a below-par generic action film which wastes Dredd and 2000 AD's setting.

You wanna see some nicely choreographed action? "Universal Soldier: Regeneration". The action sequences are slow-mo-less, use a minimum of shaky-cam and the blood-mist of bullet/stab wounds is neat. Problem is the rest of the movie is an incoherent mess, but that's what the fast-forward button is for.

You enjoyed the movie, that's perfectly fine.

Diomed 01-18-2013 04:42 PM

It was ok.. Lena Headey did a good job.

Olivia was hot too.

dirtybaker 01-18-2013 06:29 PM

It reminded me of The Raid: Redemption on a way bigger scale. The villain, who also plays the queen in Game of Thrones, does a great job. I love how Dredd never took off his helmet during the entire movie. I am a big fan of that actor as well and we never see his face. I remember when he played Caesar on Xena Warrior Princess back in the day. It was a really good action flick and I would definitely recommend it.

MediaGuy 01-18-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19431975)
Watched it recently at home.
Awesome flick! Just non stop action! No character development, no stupid love stories, just extreme action! Isn't that what an action movie should be about? Weird how you rarely see it like this.
It kinda reminded me of the last Rambo movie. Which was great as well.
Oh and the surround sound was insane! Best i've heard in a while.

I haven't seen it. I just want to inject that it would seem that a little bit of character development would make the action a lot better, no?

Compare "Transporter" movies to "Die Hard" movies - the difference is all in the sympathy for the character (and the level of credibility of the action of course...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp (Post 19432114)
I'm arguing Stallone's is a better adaptation, meaning they at least tried to keep some of the humour and satire from 2000 AD.

Dredd 2012 didn't have any of that. It's simply a cheap action film which just happens to have Judge Dredd as a character, keeping only the most superficial bits of the source material (omfg he didn't take the helmet off epic win)

I'll prove it to you: you can take "The Raid: Redemption" put Judge helmets on its characters and BAM you got Dredd 2012, except it would have kick-ass action.

What I have against the movie is that they completely wasted Dredd.

They could have used any generic stoic character and it wouldn't have made ANY difference. Switch Dredd with John McClane from Die Hard, no difference at all.

Speaking of which? Die Hard had the perfect balance of character and action and narrative... doesn't sound like the swap would make "no difference"...

Unless I'm reading you wrong...

:D

mineistaken 01-18-2013 06:56 PM

When i watch movies action scenes are the most boring for me, I usually fast forward them till the next dialogue, or I just check my phone or whatever during action scenes. So whole movie of action would not, probably, be my type of movie :)

bronco67 01-18-2013 06:58 PM

That movie actually had some style. Supposedly the slow-motion was the highest frame per second in film history. Get high and watch it, really mesmerizing. The movie was just a good example of lean, simple filmmaking.

bronco67 01-18-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp (Post 19432065)
I'd like to confirm your misgivings.

I thought Dredd was a below-average action flick and a total failure as an adaptation. It didn't have any of 2000 AD's sarcasm, social satire or humor. I would argue that Stallone's Dredd, as awful as it was, was still a better adaptation than Dredd 2012 was.

And imho the constant use of slow-mo kills the flow of the action. Slow-mo should be used sparingly, like salt in cooking. If you pour it every-fucking-where then it loses its point and just drags everything down.

What other movie besides the Matrix actually had a reason to do slo-mo that was inherent to the plot? It was to show the effect of the drug called "slo-mo".

bronco67 01-18-2013 07:01 PM

Good villian too.

bronco67 01-18-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 19432323)
I haven't seen it. I just want to inject that it would seem that a little bit of character development would make the action a lot better, no?

Compare "Transporter" movies to "Die Hard" movies - the difference is all in the sympathy for the character (and the level of credibility of the action of course...)



Speaking of which? Die Hard had the perfect balance of character and action and narrative... doesn't sound like the swap would make "no difference"...

Unless I'm reading you wrong...

:D

Even though this movie is called Dredd, the rookie character he has to babysit is the central character. She's the one with the arc, and is a bystander to one of Dredd's routine days on the job. Watch it and you'll see.

Dirty F 01-18-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19432342)
What other movie besides the Matrix actually had a reason to do slo-mo that was inherent to the plot? It was to show the effect of the drug called "slo-mo".

Yea, his argument is nonsense.

Heath 01-18-2013 07:46 PM

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. It's definitely worth a watch though.

The new Total Recall is like that, not great, but its still good enough to watch.

2MuchMark 01-18-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19431975)
Watched it recently at home.
Awesome flick! Just non stop action! No character development, no stupid love stories, just extreme action! Isn't that what an action movie should be about? Weird how you rarely see it like this.
It kinda reminded me of the last Rambo movie. Which was great as well.
Oh and the surround sound was insane! Best i've heard in a while.

Thanks for the quick review. I have been avoiding it but maybe I will check it out now.

L-Pink 01-18-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19432330)
When i watch movies action scenes are the most boring for me, I usually fast forward them till the next dialogue, or I just check my phone or whatever during action scenes. So whole movie of action would not, probably, be my type of movie :)

By "dialogue" you mean nude scene right :1orglaugh

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Darkhorse 01-18-2013 11:17 PM

It was all action, and well he did a better job then Stallone at playing the character properly. My gf watched it after I did, she liked it as well, but she was like "I spent the whole movie waiting for them to hook up" glad they didn't and it stuck to the comic book (in terms of the dude playing dredd) pretty well.

AllAboutCams 01-18-2013 11:35 PM

Ive been waiting to see this for a while

ColBigBalls 01-19-2013 12:32 AM

His rookie sidekick... dont know just why. But she was hot!

sojproductions 01-19-2013 03:05 AM

it is an awesome flick, no accompanying bullshit, just non stop action, straight out of the comic

MediaGuy 01-19-2013 09:12 AM

What? I didn't know Dredd was played by Dr. McCoy, Eomer and whatever the name of that Russian psycho cop in the Bourne Movie - Karl Urban! amazing - definitely now makes me want to watch this!

:D

bronco67 01-19-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ColBigBalls (Post 19432650)
His rookie sidekick... dont know just why. But she was hot!

Love that chick. She's been blowin up lately.

http://i.imgur.com/sZtDZGX.jpg

John-ACWM 01-20-2013 04:04 AM

I liked better the last Rambo movie.

GFED 01-20-2013 04:46 AM

It was pretty good. I liked the slo-mo scenes.

karapandza 01-20-2013 05:04 AM

I watched it 3 times... great action movie

candyflip 01-20-2013 06:24 AM

I bought the 3d bluray and its awesome. Best movie I've seen in a while, that I was expecting to be shit.

Karl Urban is awesome.

Grapesoda 01-20-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19432338)
That movie actually had some style. Supposedly the slow-motion was the highest frame per second in film history. Get high and watch it, really mesmerizing. The movie was just a good example of lean, simple filmmaking.

not exactly.... the Dredd slo-mo was shot at 4000 fps. in the 80's I worked with a camera shooting 25,000 fps on 'that's incredible... '


GFED 01-20-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19434422)
not exactly.... the Dredd slo-mo was shot at 4000 fps. in the 80's I worked with a camera shooting 25,000 fps on 'that's incredible... '


How about ONE TRILLION frames per second...

http://www.ted.com/talks/ramesh_rask...er_second.html

Aidoru 01-20-2013 03:13 PM

Good movie but it's very easy to make a good movie as long as you don't attach a lame hollywood love interest to the plot.


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