Be careful about what you say on your cellphone !!!
 

Big brother is alive and well, living in the USA:thumbsup

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/politi...rds/index.html

"As far as we know, this order from the FISA court is the broadest surveillance order to ever have been issued: it requires no level of suspicion and applies to all Verizon subscribers anywhere in the U.S.," the Center for Constitutional Rights said in a statement released shortly after the story broke."

"The four-page order, which The Guardian published on its website, requires the communications giant to turn over "originating and terminating" telephone numbers as well as the location, time and duration of the calls. The order, published on the newspaper's website, does not require the contents of conversations to be turned over."

So if true, ALL your conversations are being recorded:2 cents:

this has been going on for years :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

yea in our country this is an anti-terror law forcing ISP's and phone companies to log everything for 5 years.

once they have their foot in the door it will never stop, it will just get worse................:2 cents:

That is the price you pay for freedom.

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thanks forr including that :winkwink:

You need to start speaking in code

where are the "windtalkers" when you need them ? ;)
http://www.faqs.org/espionage/Vo-Z/Windtalkers.html

this is everywhere, fucking spy

Need true privacy? There's a company with apps for that. https://silentcircle.com

When will YOU step into the circle? :winkwink:

My wife and kids never listen to me so I actually appreciate somebody taking an interest in what I say :)

I always refer to weed as "coffee" like a paranoid idiot, but even if someone was listening in and knew I was talking about buying a bag, I know the FBI SWAT team isn't going to intervene in the buy.

Conversations = text not voice.

I think it is time to learn some aussie rhyming slang, that'll fuck ém!

fuck! now the gov knows how to book porn models ... :(

That's a shit ton of data to wade thru.

are you certain ? :2 cents:

What's so stupid about this B.S. is anyone with half a brain knows to use disposable phones when conducting nefarious activities so once again the hunt for terrorists is nothing more than a snoop job on everyday Americans. I'm sure this is just a trial run for the new datacenter.

lolz...........

It's what we DON'T know that's scary

their looking for certain words :uhoh you trigger a word there's a black van a couple of houses down :1orglaugh

Cool! Then the president knows also that I am right when I have an argument with my girl on the phone :-)
It would be great if he could call her and explain that I am right :-) :-)

technology today allows to store enormous amounts of data cheaply, convert voice to text, sort/filter through text. anything that can be recorded eventually will be recorded and reprocessed at later times.

fortunately we also have SSL concept to counter any excess of 3rd party access to private exchange over communication networks. some future gen. phone models may have peer to peer encryption build-in and integrated with calls just like today it's integrated with email, https, sftp, ssh, etc.

thanks for keeping us updated on usa jfk!

the scary part is, people like rochard really believe this.

where do y'all draw the line on the price of freedom?

serious question.

speed limits? double yellow lines? crosswalks? guns? bombs? nuclear suitcases?

say whatever you want whenever you want whereever you want?

park your shit wherever? do whatever the fuck you want because, hey, that's true freedom for 800 million people?

:1orglaugh

been this way since the patriot act, which was them making it legal, so it's probably been happening for some time

Its pretty simple really...Your freedom ends where someone elses begins.

The Constitution as pretty clear that it limits what the government can do, not grants rights to people but recognizes rights as inalienable. The Patriot Act, FISA, The NDA, RICO, The war on (pick one) all usurp those freedoms, in the name of keeping us safe from these government created dragons.

Our founding fathers saw that this was a dangerous possibility and Ben Franklin himself said something to the effect that anyone who gives up his freedom for security deserves neither

I know we have the right to privacy, etc... But man, my cell phone conversations are really boring.

yes, thank you. it's important to me that we all try to be clear on what the problem is.

1st, i don't have a clearcut solution to the problem. tbh, i don't think there is one. i respect the shit out of Robbie and similar who are completely fed up with the current state of affairs and i get that, but there's 800 million people here, unfortunately that means we need laws and orders. that's an unfortunate side-effect.

so to me, the question is, in 2013 with the verizons of the world being able to record what their customers call, is that a big deal slippery slope new level or is it just like you and me- we happen to know what porn our customers buy and have a record of their porn preferences, when they bought, how long the browsed it, from what computer they surfed my porn, etc.


you bring it up in an interesting way, the ben franklin quote, which the specific quote taken in context is not about civil liberties. i became interested in the quote a while back and took a peek into it, here is a terrific article describing what franklin really meant

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/w...n-really-said/


:)

Man they must be wonder what I'm doing with no cell phones and using the land line like once a day. What's he DOING in there!?? :1orglaugh

RICO usurps your freedoms? How so?

absolute pleasure sir :thumbsup:thumbsup

LOL and they have the computer networks to handle the job.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

"Hi miss.. this is President Obama. I am just calling you to let you know that your boyfriend is right. Do not argue about it. You are wrong."

lol I can just see how that would go over.

Breaking News!!! Codename PRISM: Secret government program mines data from 9 U.S. Internet companies, including photographs, email and more!!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...74_634x332.jpg

why is this news?

they reported this in 2006:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6058346-7.html

AT&T whistleblower claims to document illegal NSA surveillance

April 6, 2006 12:26 AM PDT