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Cheaper healthcare or a bunch of bullshit?
Haven't really kept up with this obamacare crap, but is it suppose to make healthcare more affordable or is it a bunch of bullshit? I've received numerous mails from healthcare such as Blue Cross that say I should buy their healthcare now because when obamacare takes effect, healthcare prices will rise.
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It was bullshit from day one.
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if you don't have its cheaper and it does not discriminate if you already have an existing health issue which is a big thing for a lot of people.
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It will be more expensive then it is currently.
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So, being FORCED to buy UNaffordable health care...or be "fined", LOL! What a joke "OBAMAcare", LOL! |
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The health care has to be paid for some how, and i'm now fine with the $95 fine but will look into getting coverage again. |
According to the numbers I will be able to get a Silver plan that will cover much more than the simple catastrophic plan that I have now for about $30 per month more than I pay now. Exactly how much more it will cover remains to be seen, but it should be much better than what I have now.
The reason for this is I have asthma which has always made getting any kind of insurance hard and expensive. As it rolls out and more info is available I am interested in seeing exactly what I will be able to get and for how much. |
The NAZI REPUBLICANS are protecting their MULTI-TRILLION Private Medical Industry at the expenses of shutting down a whole country. Both, Private Health Insurance companies and Pharmaceutical companies are involved in this Manipulation of a whole country in addition to the Massive Scam and Robbery...
It's pretty scary. But nothing new. Just watch SICKO and you will understand everything. |
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The first time some asshat who thought he didnt need health insurance needed brain surgery and we let the cock sucker die a lot of people would change their minds about health insurance. |
/I understand why medicament's make you even more sick later but not kill you, you are their gold chicken!
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But even without that incident, my insurance would be nearly $300 a month. I hear how this is "oh so fair..." but it is NOT. People that make a lot of money, and can afford insurance, are being RAPED for their insurance premiums, and that just subsidies those who do not have any (and can not pay for their bills like I am). This is not "auto insurance" where some other persons life can be taken, or hurt, in a wreck. This should never EVER just be forced upon us as a nation...and it IS bullshit, regardless how you, or anyone else wants to slice it. As far as the "fine" of $95...wait until you find out what it really is, and will become... Obamacare Penalty And Fines The biggest point being buzzed about is the well-known Obamacare penalty. The policy forces individuals opting out of any form of health insurance to pay a ?penalty fine?, which is more appropriately a tax. You must be signed up for health insurance by December 25, 2013 in order to Obamacare penalty. The original Obamacare penalty maxes out at $285 or one percent of the income for a family of four. In 2016, the Obamacare penalty maxes at $695 per person, $2,085 for the family, or 2.5 percent of taxable income, which amounts to $173.75 per month. |
it's complicated.
universal healthcare is a must. especially with the aging population etc however, lobbyists killed the universal health care push, so expect nothing other than the same people making money to make a lot more money and kiss your healthcare system goodbye in 20 years |
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^^^ this |
come on what do yall expect the insurance lobby wrote the law...the same insurance that is out of business if we go to universal health care.
Universal care would never have passed so this is a stepping stone I expect. This will define Obamas legacy way more than his skin color...time will tell. Over the long haul something had to be done do I think Obamacare is the right answer...not at all but it is a very small step in the right direction. |
as for premiums going up....because I am self employed mine will be going down quite a bit, for better coverage. if you are self employed and dont have a CPA that can help you with this, yes yer gonna pay more...but if yer smart you will come out alright.
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you're a writer? |
go put your stats in and see, exchanges went live today. and might be working now. might
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No one knows who wrote the Obamacare bill but Senate Democrats. It was put into another bill with a completely different name that was already in conference to get around the Scott Brown election results. Democrat staffers won't say who wrote it either. So no one knows but them. Yes it could have been the Healthcare industry. But then again it mainly sets forth over 300 new government agencies with regulatory powers, so it sounds more like bureaucrats and staffers wrote the bill which should alarm anyone - but doesn't.
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If you remember, when Obama first announced his plans for Obamacare the insurance industry was up in arms about it because now they were going to have cover people with preexisting conditions and make some other concessions. Then all of a sudden they stopped complaining and in some cases even endorsed it. They realized that the mandate was going to drop millions of new healthy, profitable customers into their lap and they were all for it. |
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If you have some cash to invest into the market, insurance companies are going to be a good place ..for a while. :thumbsup |
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can't have government competition.. that isn't the free market! |
Nothing, I repeating nothing beats Canada's single payer system! :D
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If it works like health insurance I have had in the past this means after my deductible is paid they will kick in and pay their percentage (which is supposed to be 70-80% of medical costs, no idea about prescriptions). Still, as you said, insurance is a good place to invest. In the long run they never lose money and Obamacare is going to be a huge windfall for them. |
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That group it was intended for won't be able to afford the deductible. |
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They are kind of stuck in the middle where this now becomes a new bill that they can't afford. |
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You have convinced yourself that this is the best thing since slice bread. We'll see. What might be good for you, won't be good for millions. Anyone in that $10 - $15 an hour range is going to have a tough go of it. Look at where the fines will be in 2 years.. 2.5% of income. That's a huge tax. |
if yer single and making 10-15 dollars an hour you will pay almost nothing for good insurance...Obamacare will subsidize about 70-75% of it...
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These people are making promises they can't possibly keep. |
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Well of course it's bullshit.
It has nothing to do with "Healthcare" or any "Care" at all about you or me. |
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