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onwebcam 10-10-2013 08:29 AM

$634 million to build the Obamacare website.
 
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We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404

http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion...-website-cost/

Harmon 10-10-2013 08:31 AM

Seems like a bargain considering a soft toilet seat cover for the president's ashy ass is right around a billion (no TP included)

L-Pink 10-10-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19829631)
Seems like a bargain considering a soft toilet seat cover for the president's ashy ass is right around a billion (no TP included)

I'll bet it's heated. That's one of the 3 requirements to make him happy.







(let's see how many get that Earl Butz reference)

Manfap 10-10-2013 08:37 AM

Should have asked manwin to build it.

gracesfall 10-10-2013 08:40 AM

Holy FUCK! What's it supposed to do? Give you a blowjob while you fill out the forms? Man, I am working in the WRONG sector.

epitome 10-10-2013 08:40 AM

Thanks, Rick Perry, Rick Scott and other Republican governors!

freecartoonporn 10-10-2013 08:41 AM

just wow....

Fat Panda 10-10-2013 08:46 AM

just another radical right wing fascist redistribution of wealth from the people and future generations to plutocrats and corporations

happens everyday. no news here

Rochard 10-10-2013 09:13 AM

Amazing. Seems it went up $134 million dollars.... Over night.

Yesterday it was only $500 million dollars.

NinjaSteve 10-10-2013 09:17 AM

They should give some insurance away. Damn!

onwebcam 10-10-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19829720)
Amazing. Seems it went up $134 million dollars.... Over night.

Yesterday it was only $500 million dollars.

Considering it still doesn't work I'm quite sure the figure will be in the billions shortly.

http://usaspending.gov/explore?tab=B...=detailsummary

Creatine 10-10-2013 09:53 AM

Looks like they just set up wordpress.

The developer must be getting paid 100 million an hour.

Barry-xlovecam 10-10-2013 10:10 AM

Just think -- you could of gotten a government contract and made bank ...

gracesfall 10-10-2013 10:28 AM

Think of how many people could have been insured for what it cost to build that clusterfuck of a website.

Rochard 10-10-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19829744)
Considering it still doesn't work I'm quite sure the figure will be in the billions shortly.

http://usaspending.gov/explore?tab=B...=detailsummary

It's just not adding up.

The page lists how much money was spent "for the Obamacare website", but it doesn't say what it was for. It gives a grand total of $634 million, but this seems to be made up of 114 contracts, and 379 sub contracts. Going over the list I see contracts for such items as "telecommunications" in the $17 million dollar range.

Going into further detail, scroll down on that page, and it's broken down by the five most expensive items:

Adpe System Configuration
Other ADP & Telecommunications Svcs
It and Telecom- Other It and Telecommunications
Other Professional Services
It and Telecom- Systems Development

Going yet even further, it details the companies involved:

Groupe Cgi Inc
Carahsoft Technology Corporation
Everware-Cbdi North America, INC.

This is not one contract for one project or one website. This is 114 contracts and 379 sub contracts done the Department of Health and Services Department over a five year period. And most likely only a portion of it is related to Obamacare.

Rochard 10-10-2013 10:35 AM

here's the kicker..... Go to http://usaspending.gov/trends and take a look at how many departments the US government has then take a spin around and see what they spend.

Fucking staggering.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-10-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Here's a Map of the Countries That Provide Universal Health Care (America's Still Not on It)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...x314-91612.jpg
:stoned

ADG

iSpyCams 10-10-2013 10:55 AM

They shoulda talked to me, I could easily have gotten them a 5% discount.

onwebcam 10-10-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19829860)
It's just not adding up.

The page lists how much money was spent "for the Obamacare website", but it doesn't say what it was for. It gives a grand total of $634 million, but this seems to be made up of 114 contracts, and 379 sub contracts. Going over the list I see contracts for such items as "telecommunications" in the $17 million dollar range.

Going into further detail, scroll down on that page, and it's broken down by the five most expensive items:

Adpe System Configuration
Other ADP & Telecommunications Svcs
It and Telecom- Other It and Telecommunications
Other Professional Services
It and Telecom- Systems Development

Going yet even further, it details the companies involved:

Groupe Cgi Inc
Carahsoft Technology Corporation
Everware-Cbdi North America, INC.

This is not one contract for one project or one website. This is 114 contracts and 379 sub contracts done the Department of Health and Services Department over a five year period. And most likely only a portion of it is related to Obamacare.

The search is by contract number. So everything related to that contract is tied to it. You can tell "cgi federal" setup multiple "companies" just by looking at some of the names. So CGI Federal calls up his buddy in Washington and says "Hey I can't figure out how to run wordpress so we need to contract this out to someone else." Buddy in Washington makes another request for bids and CGI federal sets up another dummy corp to bid and win the other contract.

SuckOnThis 10-10-2013 11:05 AM

Geocities, a day late and a dollar short.

O MARINA 10-10-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19829626)
We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404



Should have used oDesk.

Barry-xlovecam 10-10-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Here's a Map of the Countries That Provide Universal Health Care (America's Still Not on It) ^^^
That is a real embarrassment for one of the richest nations in the world.

Colmike9 10-10-2013 11:19 AM

Which GFYer scammed the government?..

Rochard 10-10-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19829917)
The search is by contract number.

It is not a search by contract number, but instead is a search by "prime awardee". And it's not one "awardee", and it's not for one contract or even one project, but instead hundreds of contracts and projects.

On the right hand side it's broken down by project number and amount. For example, the most expensive contract in the past five years is HHSM500T0012, which is only $58 million for "Adpe System Configuration". That's a far cry from $600 million.

Another quick serach tells me that "Adpe System Configuration" really stands for Automatic Data Processing and Equipment, which doesn't even tell us what it's for.

Again, you taking the total amount spent on contracts by the US Health & Services Department (whatever the name is) and saying it's all for Obamacare, when the truth is it's for nearly 500 different items.

This is more bullshit like the death panels.

L-Pink 10-10-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19829860)
And most likely only a portion of it is related to Obamacare.

Nope ??...

brassmonkey 10-10-2013 11:24 AM

something had to replace snake oil! :2 cents: the government has no shame.

DWB 10-10-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19829643)
Should have asked manwin to build it.

They did.

baddog 10-10-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19829637)
I'll bet it's heated. That's one of the 3 requirements to make him happy.







(let's see how many get that Earl Butz reference)

I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19829649)
Thanks, Rick Perry, Rick Scott and other Republican governors!

How so?

dyna mo 10-10-2013 12:14 PM

fox news claims it's a much more reasonable $93million

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/10/...-experts-warn/

Rochard 10-10-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19829958)
Nope ??...

So you are saying that 114 contracts and 379 sub contracts were awarded by the Department of Health and Human Services over the past five years and ALL of them are to put up a single website?

According this website, in 2009 $63 million was spent in 2009. Obamacare didn't become a law until 2010.

This data is about hundreds of contacts over a five year period for the Health and Human Services department, not one project to build one website.

seeandsee 10-10-2013 12:21 PM

super duper site, wtf is cost so much money??? lollllllllll

crockett 10-10-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gracesfall (Post 19829859)
Think of how many people could have been insured for what it cost to build that clusterfuck of a website.

Think of how many could have been insured with the 300 million a day that our country is losing due to the shutdown. At 2 weeks that's roughly 2.4 billion pissed down the drain.. Where oh where are the so called fiscal republicans whom should be pissed off about govt waste?

At least once they get the website working properly it will be a benefit to Americans.. Meanwhile the 300 mil a day is just pissed down the drain due to a needless shutdown.

Rochard 10-10-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19830019)
fox news claims it's a much more reasonable $93million

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/10/...-experts-warn/

Possible.... But still a fucking huge amount of money to spend.

But if you think about it, what exactly did that money buy? A website? Or a website backed up by a secure data facility networked in directly to the IRS and every hospital and doctor in the country that is accessable to everyone in the US?

I'm not trying to justify the cost.... But it's a little bit more than a website hooked up to a database.

epitome 10-10-2013 01:17 PM

You do realize that the site was only needed in the first place because of states such as your rejecting the law of the land? So you only wasted your own money. Oh wait, no you didn't, because your state takes out way more federal dollars than it puts in.

epitome 10-10-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19830097)
Possible.... But still a fucking huge amount of money to spend.

But if you think about it, what exactly did that money buy? A website? Or a website backed up by a secure data facility networked in directly to the IRS and every hospital and doctor in the country that is accessable to everyone in the US?

I'm not trying to justify the cost.... But it's a little bit more than a website hooked up to a database.

This. It's not a website, but instead a system. People like the OP will never admit that though. Nor will they check the very links that they use as proof to see that the contracts they're citing to add up to that number go back before Obama was even President. They'll also never admit that their sources don't actually specify which contract was for what. :winkwink::1orglaugh

dyna mo 10-10-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19830097)
Possible.... But still a fucking huge amount of money to spend.

But if you think about it, what exactly did that money buy? A website? Or a website backed up by a secure data facility networked in directly to the IRS and every hospital and doctor in the country that is accessable to everyone in the US?

I'm not trying to justify the cost.... But it's a little bit more than a website hooked up to a database.

there is no where near that level of functionality in the site/operation. it's not linked to a single hospital or doctor and requires a 3rd party background check via credit reports.

there are extremely sophisticated websites in the private sector that involve massive functionality, i would be shocked if those sites cost even $10m, let alone $90m, $600m is silly.

even if the backend systems were not built, 10s of millions of $ for a website is insane.

mineistaken 10-10-2013 01:46 PM

nice money laundry

epitome 10-10-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19830129)
there is no where near that level of functionality in the site/operation. it's not linked to a single hospital or doctor and requires a 3rd party background check via credit reports.

there are extremely sophisticated websites in the private sector that involve massive functionality, i would be shocked if those sites cost even $10m, let alone $90m, $600m is silly.

even if the backend systems were not built, 10s of millions of $ for a website is insane.

I doubt the real number has been put out anywhere. The only people (including media outlets) citing it have a clear agenda against ObamaCare and will try to make it look bad at any cost.

Those that are for it aren't trying to discredit it and therefore aren't looking for trivial things. It's weird how reckless spending happens every day and nobody cares, but I can't turn a corner on the Internet in the last 24 hours without seeing a new thing about the cost of this website. All with different numbers, mind you.

I hope the people adding up the number aren't relying on the link cited in the article from the OP. That link only specifies dollars amount and agencies and not the actual RFPs. Plus the contracts go back to before Obama was even President -- and ObamaCare existed -- but still somehow ended up in the total.

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