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lucas131 03-14-2014 09:38 PM

another clever heads: industrychecks not paying on trials
 
not sure what is up with the industry, but the industrychecks came with another great fuck up to affiliates ... after receiving 1.99 trial sale and it showed 0 on my account, i asked why zero and got answer

Quote:

Hi Radim,

A trial sale is not considered a full sale. Our program is set up that when a trial converts to a re-bill you will get paid for that and the lifetime of the membership.

Thanks,
Support
so trial sale is not sale ... good to know guys, another serious business ... :Oh crap have a nice weekend and wish you best with your business everyone :)

freecartoonporn 03-14-2014 10:12 PM

never heard of them

lucas131 03-14-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20016118)
never heard of them

new program, they have announcement in announcements section :)

EddyTheDog 03-14-2014 10:25 PM

They have probably been blasted with x-sells as well - $s you will never see...

lucas131 03-18-2014 10:27 AM

now they site is dead for few days, thats really serious busines ... :Oh crap btw, how are now the hits counting, when the site is on park page? :helpme

PornDiscounts-R 03-18-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20019597)
now they site is dead for few days, thats really serious busines ... :Oh crap btw, how are now the hits counting, when the site is on park page? :helpme

All their sites load for me. Via direct urls
But sounds like a solid biz :disgust

lucas131 03-18-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thebestamateur (Post 20019617)
All their sites load for me. Via direct urls
But sounds like a solid biz :disgust

yeah i see now, they renewed the domain and looks like the hits have been counted, so all good, except that they dont pay trials, trial is not a sale if you didnt know ... :helpme :Oh crap

PornDiscounts-R 03-18-2014 12:24 PM

Yeah, that none pay on trials is pretty scammy.

blackmonsters 03-18-2014 12:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzc7hdvKaY

TheMoneyMan 03-21-2014 09:39 AM

This is why its important to stick to reputable networks! At least you diddnt loose out on a bunch of money.

mineistaken 03-21-2014 09:58 AM

That could be understandable only if they do revshare and zero xsales. In that case 0.99$ for you is not that much of a loss as you would aim for rebills/full sales anyway.
But again - only if revshare and no crosssales.

lucas131 04-27-2014 02:22 AM

Join Date: Apr 24th, 2014 03:55 PM
Total Income: $0.00
Total Rebills: 1
Status: Active
Site: IndustryInvaders.com

so, they dont pay on initial sales, now, i got rebill, but the rebill is zero, so they dont pay even on rebills ... all on revshare ... now, the question is, what are they paying? nothing? good to know, stay far far away!!! :winkwink: :2 cents: :321GFY

freecartoonporn 04-27-2014 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20064406)
Join Date: Apr 24th, 2014 03:55 PM
Total Income: $0.00
Total Rebills: 1
Status: Active
Site: IndustryInvaders.com

so, they dont pay on initial sales, now, i got rebill, but the rebill is zero, so they dont pay even on rebills ... all on revshare ... now, the question is, what are they paying? nothing? good to know, stay far far away!!! :winkwink: :2 cents: :321GFY

wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them.

Relentless in 3,2,1.

Relentless 04-27-2014 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064427)
wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them. Relentless in 3,2,1.

If they don't pay on trials or rebills your $/clicks = $0.00

That is the best reason to stay far far away.

$/click is not taking 'their side' dumbass, it is taking the side of any professional affiliate, and any sponsor that actually pays real money for real clicks at a high value. How you can think that is bad advice in any way is simply bizarre.

Now on the other hand, if they didn't pay on trials but you were earning forty cents per click because they converted trials at a high rate and retained really well, I wouldn't care about the trials at all. I'd care about the forty cents per click. In this instance, assuming Lucas' numbers are accurate (I would do my own testing if I planned to promote a sponsor) the payout appears to be 0.00, that would be enough reason for me to not promote them even if they were accurately paying 0.00 while counting trials.

The math matters, the reason 'why' they pay 0.00 is a distraction for asshats in almost every case.

Relentless 04-27-2014 03:31 AM

Lucas, if you want to really be helpful....
Post a list of sponsors you have sent at least 50K clicks and the amount they each paid you per click.

That would be very useful information

2cents

InfoGuy 04-27-2014 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064427)
Relentless in 3,2,1.

:1orglaugh Right on cue.

freecartoonporn 04-27-2014 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20064438)
If they don't pay on trials or rebills your $/clicks = $0.00

That is the best reason to stay far far away.

$/click is not taking 'their side' dumbass, it is taking the side of any professional affiliate, and any sponsor that actually pays real money for real clicks at a high value. How you can think that is bad advice in any way is simply bizarre.

Now on the other hand, if they didn't pay on trials but you were earning forty cents per click because they converted trials at a high rate and retained really well, I wouldn't care about the trials at all. I'd care about the forty cents per click. In this instance, assuming Lucas' numbers are accurate (I would do my own testing if I planned to promote a sponsor) the payout appears to be 0.00, that would be enough reason for me to not promote them even if they were accurately paying 0.00 while counting trials.

The math matters, the reason 'why' they pay 0.00 is a distraction for asshats in almost every case.

i dont have time to read your wall of text and to argue with you, i used to think you were stand up guy but realized that you are bro with the programs owners and thats why you kept pasting your $/click logic in the other thread.

that is all i have to say.

to OP : i apologize for mentioning the relentless in this thread , now this thread is also ruined with relentless's $/click posts and walls of text.

Colmike9 04-27-2014 06:08 AM

Hey Lucas, what trial programs would you recommend that pay for each trial? Because the programs that I've talked to all say that they have to convert for them to pay the full PPS..

lucas131 04-27-2014 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20064533)
Hey Lucas, what trial programs would you recommend that pay for each trial? Because the programs that I've talked to all say that they have to convert for them to pay the full PPS..

all my programs are paying on trials, so far i know :winkwink: i am talking about revshare, not pps, i am not doing pps, so i dont know which programs pay you pps on trials :winkwink: and yeah, welcome relentless here lol :1orglaugh :winkwink: have a nice sunday everyone :)

Colmike9 04-27-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20064536)
all my programs are paying on trials, so far i know :winkwink: i am talking about revshare, not pps, i am not doing pps, so i dont know which programs pay you pps on trials :winkwink: and yeah, welcome relentless here lol :1orglaugh :winkwink: have a nice sunday everyone :)

Ah, my bad :upsidedow

lucas131 04-27-2014 06:13 AM

you know, on revshare, you send 1usd trial, they pay you 50cents at least, mostly 60cents, then on rebills and so ... but those industrychecks guys have only revshare links with trials option in their nats, so you cannot choose nothing else, now they dont pay those trials, not even those 50cents, they pay full zero, saying they are paying only rebills, but now when one of my member magically rebilled, it is still zero :) what the ... :2 cents: :winkwink:

Relentless 04-27-2014 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064522)
i dont have time to read your wall of text

I'm neither a bro nor a whining part-timer. I'm a professional.
If a dozen lines of text are too challenging for you to read, that says a lot.
Have luck

Relentless 04-27-2014 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20064536)
welcome relentless have a nice sunday everyone :)

Thanks for the warm welcome :winkwink:

freecartoonporn 04-27-2014 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 20064456)
:1orglaugh Right on cue.

he likes these types of threads i guess. posting his $/clicks logic.

Jel 04-27-2014 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064427)
wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them.

Relentless in 3,2,1.

lol what a moronic post

Relentless 04-27-2014 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064548)
posting his $/clicks logic.

My logic? A four year old can reason well enough to figure out $/click
Then again, a four year old can also read a dozen lines of text. :1orglaugh

freecartoonporn 04-27-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20064553)
lol what a moronic post

here comes another BRO

http://www.forgingelitesarcasm.com/w...11/dog-ass.jpg

ErectMedia 04-27-2014 07:11 AM

RevShare should be RevShare across the board. This sounds like Selective RevShare. Imaginary Links Pulled :1orglaugh

Jel 04-27-2014 07:15 AM

I'm a bro because I thought it was moronic you posted the exact opposite of what relentless has been saying in the other thread yet somehow thought a $0.00 return on clicks & sales would give an EPC worthy of anyone with more than 1 brain cell saying stick with that sponsor?

Righto :thumbsup

Relentless 04-27-2014 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064565)
nonsense....

What do you do in this industry? Are you an affiliate? Do you own any sites?

Or does saying you own a specific site somehow make you a Bro? :1orglaugh

xXXtesy10 04-27-2014 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064565)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lucas131 06-19-2014 01:24 AM

just reminder, stay away of them ... still making sales, with zero revenue, and also did some rebills, with zero revenue! they are scam, pure, clean, scam! stay away!!!

lucas131 06-19-2014 01:26 AM

fucking scammers ...

IndustryInvaders 06-19-2014 12:27 PM

We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2014 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders (Post 20130195)
We have some minor NATS issues...

Um, ok. Thanks.

_Richard_ 06-19-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders (Post 20130195)
We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

heads up on your 2257 links for oral.. masters or whatever

JSWENSON 06-19-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders (Post 20130195)
We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

Why do you give a fuck this much about 50 cents of revshare on a trial join?

KillerK 06-19-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 20130491)
Why do you give a fuck this much about 50 cents of revshare on a trial join?

Well, if I sent 1000 sales a year, that $500 a year I am not getting. I know $500 isn't a big deal to you, but that's a month of rent for a lot of gfyers.

JSWENSON 06-19-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 20130695)
Well, if I sent 1000 sales a year, that $500 a year I am not getting. I know $500 isn't a big deal to you, but that's a month of rent for a lot of gfyers.

I'm talking about the sponsor, not webmasters. If you tell someone 50% revshare then share the damn revenue and STFU.

xXXtesy10 06-19-2014 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20064565)

GFT:2 cents:


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