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Vendzilla 07-13-2014 08:06 AM

POLL: Obama worse president since WW2
 
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2056

July 2, 2014 - Obama Is First As Worst President Since WWII, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; More Voters Say Romney Would Have Been Better

President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Another 28 percent pick President George W. Bush.

Ronald Reagan is the best president since WWII, 35 percent of voters say, with 18 percent for Bill Clinton, 15 percent for John F. Kennedy and 8 percent for Obama, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Among Democrats, 34 percent say Clinton is the best president, with 18 percent each for Obama and Kennedy.

Obama has been a better president than George W. Bush, 39 percent of voters say, while 40 percent say he is worse. Men say 43 - 36 percent that Obama is worse than Bush while women say 42 - 38 percent he is better. Obama is worse, Republicans say 79 - 7 percent and independent voters say 41 - 31 percent. Democrats say 78 - 4 percent that he is better.

Voters say by a narrow 37 - 34 percent that Obama is better for the economy than Bush.

America would be better off if Republican Mitt Romney had won the 2012 presidential election, 45 percent of voters say, while 38 percent say the country would be worse off.

Missing Mitt are Republicans 84 - 5 percent and independent voters 47 - 33 percent, while Democrats say 74 - 10 percent that the U.S. would be worse off with Romney.

"Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Would Mitt have been a better fit? More voters in hindsight say yes."

Fat Panda 07-13-2014 08:12 AM

polls mean so much and amerikans so smart

are you a baby boomer?

Grapesoda 07-13-2014 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20156707)
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2056

July 2, 2014 - Obama Is First As Worst President Since WWII, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; More Voters Say Romney Would Have Been Better

President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Another 28 percent pick President George W. Bush.

Ronald Reagan is the best president since WWII, 35 percent of voters say, with 18 percent for Bill Clinton, 15 percent for John F. Kennedy and 8 percent for Obama, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. Among Democrats, 34 percent say Clinton is the best president, with 18 percent each for Obama and Kennedy.

Obama has been a better president than George W. Bush, 39 percent of voters say, while 40 percent say he is worse. Men say 43 - 36 percent that Obama is worse than Bush while women say 42 - 38 percent he is better. Obama is worse, Republicans say 79 - 7 percent and independent voters say 41 - 31 percent. Democrats say 78 - 4 percent that he is better.

Voters say by a narrow 37 - 34 percent that Obama is better for the economy than Bush.

America would be better off if Republican Mitt Romney had won the 2012 presidential election, 45 percent of voters say, while 38 percent say the country would be worse off.

Missing Mitt are Republicans 84 - 5 percent and independent voters 47 - 33 percent, while Democrats say 74 - 10 percent that the U.S. would be worse off with Romney.

"Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Would Mitt have been a better fit? More voters in hindsight say yes."

the tea party made that shit up because they are racist :2 cents: :winkwink:

blackmonsters 07-13-2014 08:40 AM

I wonder how many times Vendzilla filled out the poll sheet.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 07-13-2014 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20156736)
the tea party made that shit up because they are racist :2 cents: :winkwink:

I believe everything you say because you are so fucking cool.



White power


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bronco67 07-13-2014 08:44 AM

You have the "worse" grammar since WWII.

TheLegacy 07-13-2014 08:47 AM

Only time will tell the effectiveness of any leader. Polls can be misleading - results of actions taken now will be the best gauge in time as to whether he was the worse or something else. I'm sure even in Lincoln's day the polls wouldn't favor him too much. (Lincoln had won the 1860 election in November with 39.8 percent of the popular vote.) Currently Obama is at 43% and his lowest was oct 2011 it was 38% for his presidential job approval. NOTE: Nixon was at 26% in July 1974

By no means and I comparing Obama or any president to Lincoln - just saying that using current polls may not be the best thing to determine much of anything now.

beerptrol 07-13-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 20156746)
Only time will tell the effectiveness of any leader. Polls can be misleading - results of actions taken now will be the best gauge in time as to whether he was the worse or something else. I'm sure even in Lincoln's day the polls wouldn't favor him too much. (Lincoln had won the 1860 election in November with 39.8 percent of the popular vote.) Currently Obama is at 43% and his lowest was oct 2011 it was 38% for his presidential job approval. NOTE: Nixon was at 26% in July 1974

By no means and I comparing Obama or any president to Lincoln - just saying that using current polls may not be the best thing to determine much of anything now.

But they give someone with an agenda something to post!

MediumPimpin 07-13-2014 08:52 AM

I wish he could run again.

seeandsee 07-13-2014 08:53 AM

Bush was stupidest president

CPA-Rush 07-13-2014 09:07 AM

nah ....

crockett 07-13-2014 09:13 AM

A picture of Vedzilla every time he finds something to copy and paste about Obama..

http://rodneysspace.files.wordpress....if?w=350&h=200

WDF 07-13-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 20156748)
But they give detractors with an agenda something to post!


Fixed that for you.:2 cents::thumbsup

Roald 07-13-2014 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 20156746)
Only time will tell the effectiveness of any leader. Polls can be misleading - results of actions taken now will be the best gauge in time as to whether he was the worse or something else. I'm sure even in Lincoln's day the polls wouldn't favor him too much. (Lincoln had won the 1860 election in November with 39.8 percent of the popular vote.) Currently Obama is at 43% and his lowest was oct 2011 it was 38% for his presidential job approval. NOTE: Nixon was at 26% in July 1974

By no means and I comparing Obama or any president to Lincoln - just saying that using current polls may not be the best thing to determine much of anything now.

but where's the fun in that!

arock10 07-13-2014 10:31 AM

finally its been settled!

pornmasta 07-13-2014 10:55 AM

don't worry the worse is the next one; you'll find that bush was a genius

DraX 07-13-2014 10:59 AM

LOL always these polls after a new president has been around a few years and usually comes with the same results.

FYI: The president does not run the country, those who do are the congress, senate, lobbyists, the billionaires and the financial institutions.

You should not be mad at the president be mad at the system.

If you pissed off at the president then you're in a bubble and congratulations to the real people running america for successfully deceiving you.

Wizzo 07-13-2014 11:11 AM

Of course he is, he's the sitting President. They said that about Bush when he was the president, when Clinton was president, etc...means nothing. It will change jan2016 when we have a new president.

marcop 07-13-2014 11:14 AM

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by drax (Post 20156826)
fyi: The president does not run the country, those who do are the congress, senate, lobbyists, the billionaires and the financial institutions.

You should not be mad at the president be mad at the system.


lazycash 07-13-2014 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20156765)
A picture of crockett every time he finds something negative to copy and paste about the Republican Party.

http://rodneysspace.files.wordpress....if?w=350&h=200

Fixed it for you.

Robbie 07-13-2014 11:19 AM

Yeah...every President has the same thing happen during the 2nd term. All the stuff they do in the first term unravels a bit and the public starts to get "fatigue" with the sitting President.

It usually takes a few years after they leave office for that to turn around.

Hell, at the end of his life Richard Nixon was appearing all the time on CNN's Larry King and other interview shows and was treated like a beloved elder statesman.

And look at Geoge H.W. Bush. When he was beaten by Clinton in the 1992 election he was ridiculed and pretty much humiliated.
Now the press treats him like some kind of national treasure.

And Clinton himself...remember at the end of his term he was so hated that even Al Gore wouldn't let him go on the campaign trail with him in 2000 when he ran for President. And the Democrat Party didn't have him speak at the convention that year.

Now Clinton is loved by the majority of people.

It's always that way for polls.

Doesn't mean that a President is doing a good job or a bad job. It's just the way things are.

If you ask me...other than the big mansion, the private jet, the private helicopter, getting to pretend to be the "commander in chief" of the military, and traveling all over the world...I think I'd want to quit after one term and let the next guy deal with the bullshit. lol

Vendzilla 07-13-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20156849)
Yeah...every President has the same thing happen during the 2nd term. All the stuff they do in the first term unravels a bit and the public starts to get "fatigue" with the sitting President.

It usually takes a few years after they leave office for that to turn around.

Hell, at the end of his life Richard Nixon was appearing all the time on CNN's Larry King and other interview shows and was treated like a beloved elder statesman.

And look at Geoge H.W. Bush. When he was beaten by Clinton in the 1992 election he was ridiculed and pretty much humiliated.
Now the press treats him like some kind of national treasure.

And Clinton himself...remember at the end of his term he was so hated that even Al Gore wouldn't let him go on the campaign trail with him in 2000 when he ran for President. And the Democrat Party didn't have him speak at the convention that year.

Now Clinton is loved by the majority of people.

It's always that way for polls.

Doesn't mean that a President is doing a good job or a bad job. It's just the way things are.

If you ask me...other than the big mansion, the private jet, the private helicopter, getting to pretend to be the "commander in chief" of the military, and traveling all over the world...I think I'd want to quit after one term and let the next guy deal with the bullshit. lol

Actually, I would have to disagree with you here, While yes, GW bush suffered in the polls during his second term, the Republican that had a second term before him, Ronald Reagan had great poll numbers, WHY? Because he was and according to this poll, a loved president.

Clinton suffered in his second term because of the scandals and doing things like NAFTA and making China a preferred trade partner and for white water. Not because the economy was doing poorly, when it comes to that, the country was in a good place.

Obama just has shown no interest in running the country.

We're having a crisis of illegal aliens crossing the border and Obama wants money for lawyers and more places to keep them, when most people would think to just stop the illegal aliens from entering the country, then deal what we already have. These kids have not had their shots and many have been quarantined. Yet Obama will not send troops to the border like Gov Perry asked.

The VA crisis pissed off every veteran in the country, myself included, he promised to fix that and because of people falsifying documents, we thought they had fixed the system.

NSA is still spying on people that they don't have a legal right to do.

Lois Lerners emails came up missing and the IRS who had a 1.5 billion a year IT department can't find them. And she is still claiming the 5th.

The middle east is going to complete shit in a basket.

Even MSNBC is starting to comment on the negative shit going on.

Obama's poll numbers going down has only himself to blame

Robbie 07-13-2014 01:08 PM

Reagan was a different animal though Vendzilla

Even though the media went after him like attack dogs...he really was "The Great Communicator" and had that special "something" that made you like him even if you disagreed with what he was doing.

He is a very, very rare case. Maybe the only one of his kind except for George Washington and FDR.

Not sure if it means he did good things or not. But he definitely had charm.

I remember when he was President and I was living with my first wife in Ft. Lauderdale.
I was an avid fan of Rolling Stone magazine and their political section. I didn't realize it was so biased...I just thought they were "reporting".

So I HATED Reagan at that time.

But I swear to God, every time he would address the nation on television...all that would kinda melt away and he'd charm everybody. He just had that gift.

Bryan G 07-13-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 20156838)
Of course he is, he's the sitting President. They said that about Bush when he was the president, when Clinton was president, etc...means nothing. It will change jan2016 when we have a new president.

Exactly. Thread over...

Vendzilla 07-13-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20156951)
Reagan was a different animal though Vendzilla

Even though the media went after him like attack dogs...he really was "The Great Communicator" and had that special "something" that made you like him even if you disagreed with what he was doing.

He is a very, very rare case. Maybe the only one of his kind except for George Washington and FDR.

Not sure if it means he did good things or not. But he definitely had charm.

I remember when he was President and I was living with my first wife in Ft. Lauderdale.
I was an avid fan of Rolling Stone magazine and their political section. I didn't realize it was so biased...I just thought they were "reporting".

So I HATED Reagan at that time.

But I swear to God, every time he would address the nation on television...all that would kinda melt away and he'd charm everybody. He just had that gift.

You see that is the difference between a great leader and a bad one.

When Reagan gave a speech, he didn't blame Carter for everything, he didn't blame the Democrats for everything, he brought people together, talked about a great nation, great people, people that can do anything.

Obama blames the GOP for not getting anything done, what he really means is he can't get what he wants done and the people that are represented by the GOP in the house and senate don't want him to do and he just won't have that.

I was in the middle of the Indian ocean when Reagan took office, everyone cheered that he had won, we were going home because after 444 days of a president that couldn't handle foreign policy, we got Reagan and all those captives went home. When I got out of the military, we were coming out of a recession that many argue was worse in many ways to that Obama had to deal with, but then we had a huge construction boom in LA and I went to work in high rises building elevators.

So yeah, you are right, he was a one of a kind, democrats will always blast him, because they couldn't argue against him. He was more of a libertarian than a republican according to today;s standards.

He spoke out against the Briggs initiative, before he was president.
Stopped a run away inflation
Unemployment was at 4.4 when he left office
Cold war was coming to a close.
And he never bowed to a foreign power

He made mistakes, who doesn't? But he's exactly what we need right now!

If you ever get a chance, take a tour of the Reagan library, it's in Simi Valley just north west of LA. If you do, give me a shout, I'll meet you there!

kane 07-13-2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20156938)
Actually, I would have to disagree with you here, While yes, GW bush suffered in the polls during his second term, the Republican that had a second term before him, Ronald Reagan had great poll numbers, WHY? Because he was and according to this poll, a loved president.

Clinton suffered in his second term because of the scandals and doing things like NAFTA and making China a preferred trade partner and for white water. Not because the economy was doing poorly, when it comes to that, the country was in a good place.

Obama just has shown no interest in running the country.

We're having a crisis of illegal aliens crossing the border and Obama wants money for lawyers and more places to keep them, when most people would think to just stop the illegal aliens from entering the country, then deal what we already have. These kids have not had their shots and many have been quarantined. Yet Obama will not send troops to the border like Gov Perry asked.

The VA crisis pissed off every veteran in the country, myself included, he promised to fix that and because of people falsifying documents, we thought they had fixed the system.

NSA is still spying on people that they don't have a legal right to do.

Lois Lerners emails came up missing and the IRS who had a 1.5 billion a year IT department can't find them. And she is still claiming the 5th.

The middle east is going to complete shit in a basket.

Even MSNBC is starting to comment on the negative shit going on.

Obama's poll numbers going down has only himself to blame

The poll itself states that most of those things have little or no impact on how people feel about Obama. It is all about the economy.

When you get to question 43 they ask what is the most important problem facing the country. #1 with 35% is economy. Politicians and campaigns is next with 12% and the next highest is healthcare at 6%.

Here is the interesting thing to me. They ask who the worst president since WW2 has been and Obama is first, followed by GW Bush then Nixon. They also ask who has been the best president since WW2 and Obama ranks 4th behind Clinton, Reagan, and Kennedy. How can he simultaneously be the worst president we have had, yet at the same time be the 4th best? The funniest part is that in that question (who is the best president) republican respondents had him higher than GW Bush, Clinton, Ford, Nixon, Carter, and Jonson and they had him tied with Eisenhower and Truman.

Fat Panda 07-13-2014 02:13 PM

Vend you a baby boomer?

katja_AWNews 07-13-2014 02:26 PM

House of Cards....

Rochard 07-13-2014 02:40 PM

Fifty-two weeks of economic growth. That's all I'm concerned about.

2MuchMark 07-13-2014 04:46 PM

The fact that so many people think Obama is the worst president, is really sad.

PornDiscounts-V 07-13-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20156938)
Actually, I would have to disagree with you here, While yes, GW bush suffered in the polls during his second term, the Republican that had a second term before him, Ronald Reagan had great poll numbers, WHY? Because he was and according to this poll, a loved president.

Clinton suffered in his second term because of the scandals and doing things like NAFTA and making China a preferred trade partner and for white water. Not because the economy was doing poorly, when it comes to that, the country was in a good place.

Obama just has shown no interest in running the country.

We're having a crisis of illegal aliens crossing the border and Obama wants money for lawyers and more places to keep them, when most people would think to just stop the illegal aliens from entering the country, then deal what we already have. These kids have not had their shots and many have been quarantined. Yet Obama will not send troops to the border like Gov Perry asked.

The VA crisis pissed off every veteran in the country, myself included, he promised to fix that and because of people falsifying documents, we thought they had fixed the system.

NSA is still spying on people that they don't have a legal right to do.

Lois Lerners emails came up missing and the IRS who had a 1.5 billion a year IT department can't find them. And she is still claiming the 5th.

The middle east is going to complete shit in a basket.

Even MSNBC is starting to comment on the negative shit going on.

Obama's poll numbers going down has only himself to blame


Reagan, just like Bush Jr, killed our housing market. Funny how people forget about how fucked up Reagan left our country and just remember his speeches. He was a good actor. As far as policy went he wasn't actually in charge and the housing boom and bust of 89-91 is a good indication of just how much of a puppet he was like Bush to the banks.

PornDiscounts-V 07-13-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katja wescort (Post 20157033)
House of Cards....

I love you.

Rochard 07-13-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20156951)
Reagan was a different animal though Vendzilla

Even though the media went after him like attack dogs...he really was "The Great Communicator" and had that special "something" that made you like him even if you disagreed with what he was doing.

He is a very, very rare case. Maybe the only one of his kind except for George Washington and FDR.

Not sure if it means he did good things or not. But he definitely had charm.

I remember when he was President and I was living with my first wife in Ft. Lauderdale.
I was an avid fan of Rolling Stone magazine and their political section. I didn't realize it was so biased...I just thought they were "reporting".

So I HATED Reagan at that time.

But I swear to God, every time he would address the nation on television...all that would kinda melt away and he'd charm everybody. He just had that gift.

I loved Reagan.

But then again, I was very young and didn't have much thought on politics and what was happening. All I remember was the over all feeling of the country - combined with my age, I felt it was a very optimistic time.

2MuchMark 07-13-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 20157176)
Reagan, just like Bush Jr, killed our housing market. Funny how people forget about how fucked up Reagan left our country and just remember his speeches. He was a good actor. As far as policy went he wasn't actually in charge and the housing boom and bust of 89-91 is a good indication of just how much of a puppet he was like Bush to the banks.

Careful - one does not dis Vendzilla and the GOP's lord and saviour Ronald Reagan around here no matter how much of puppet he was.

theking 07-13-2014 06:00 PM

When President Reagan entered office the national debt was less than 1 trillion dollars and when he left it was around 3 trillion dollars. He also was the first President to borrow money from a foreign country. His administration was the first of the big spenders and every President since has followed with the precedent he set.

MaDalton 07-13-2014 06:23 PM

funny how memory works - back then people called Reagan "simple" and even dangerous...

theking 07-13-2014 06:37 PM

I am of the opinion that President Regan was already suffering with Alzheimer's sometime before he left office and maybe even when he first entered office.

theking 07-13-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20157237)
funny how memory works - back then people called Reagan "simple" and even dangerous...

I think simple and even dangerous was applicable. He often misspoke and according to Don Regan his chief of staff when President Reagan was negotiating with Gorbachev about ICBM's the President asked for a short break. During the break he said to Don Regan... Gorbachev repeatedly refers to Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles and the President wanted to know what in the hell Gorbachev was talking about. Dangerous...I think.

Fat Panda 07-13-2014 08:17 PM

sure is funny...vend u a boomer?

theking 07-13-2014 09:27 PM

It was President Reagan that was personally responsible for the deaths of 220 Marines in the 1993 Beirut bombing. It was he that over road the advice of his Secretary of Defense not to send troops to Beirut. It was he that ordered them housed as they were...which made them sitting ducks. It was he that ordered them not to have any loaded weapons...which left them defenseless against stopping the truck bomber. He did this because he wanted them to appear as peace keepers not warriors which is what they are trained to be.

Micro management of the military by politicians gets our people killed.


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