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Paul&John 05-08-2015 12:05 AM

Cameron good or bad for the UK?
 
Hi!

So I dunno much about UK politics, is it a good or a bad thing that this guy stays there for another 5 years? :)

Manfap 05-08-2015 12:29 AM

Probably better than Labour spunking the cash.
It would have been a labour/SNP deal, and after years of living in Spain, I can see that regional political parties are a terrible idea.

They think they are kings, and think only of making themselves rich and wasting money on vanity projects. (that of course they receive a backhander for.)

DVTimes 05-08-2015 01:17 AM

for porn, its bad as they look to bring in more bans.

NewNick 05-08-2015 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20469378)
for porn, its bad as they look to bring in more bans.

Fool.

Regulated porn and age verification is exactly what is needed.

:2 cents:

CurrentlySober 05-08-2015 01:39 AM

i find him arousing...

Jel 05-08-2015 01:50 AM

he is no better or worse than anyone else who could be in charge of the UK as things stand today with regards to what politics is all about

Scott McD 05-08-2015 02:34 AM

They are all the same. Lying cunts.

So it makes no difference...

NewNick 05-08-2015 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20469398)
They are all the same. Lying cunts.

So it makes no difference...

The biggest irony, the Scots handed the election to the Tories. :2 cents::2 cents:

evy97 05-08-2015 04:56 AM

Welcome to British democracy :1orglaugh

UKIP get 13% of the popular vote (4m votes) = 1 seat

SNP 5% (1.5m votes) = 56 seats

Scots should prepare for another independence referendum

Paul&John 05-08-2015 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20469450)
Welcome to British democracy :1orglaugh

UKIP get 13% of the popular vote (4m votes) = 1 seat

SNP 5% (1.5m votes) = 56 seats

Scots should prepare for another independence referendum

I have no idea how the election system works there, but I guess UKIP won in only one district (with huge majority), therefore they get only one seat...

Shap 05-08-2015 06:01 AM

If you have money in the UK Cameron is :thumbsup:thumbsup

I can tell you amongst everyone I know there was a huge collective sigh of relief this morning when the results were announced.

arock10 05-08-2015 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20469472)
If you have money in the UK Cameron is :thumbsup:thumbsup

I can tell you amongst everyone I know there was a huge collective sigh of relief this morning when the results were announced.

He is the tax cuts for billionaires guy or is that only in the US?

Manfap 05-08-2015 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20469450)
Welcome to British democracy :1orglaugh

UKIP get 13% of the popular vote (4m votes) = 1 seat

SNP 5% (1.5m votes) = 56 seats

Scots should prepare for another independence referendum

An individual vote for the person you want, rather than letting a political party choose the 100 odd people they want to represent you?

They do that in Spain, so the government is full of cunts you cant get rid off.

In theory, if the people of some village in Oxford thought David Cameron an ass, he could lose his job. It's happened before to some pretty big politicians.

k0nr4d 05-08-2015 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20469504)
An individual vote for the person you want, rather than letting a political party choose the 100 odd people they want to represent you?

They do that in Spain, so the government is full of cunts you cant get rid off.

In theory, if the people of some village in Oxford thought David Cameron an ass, he could lose his job. It's happened before to some pretty big politicians.

We have proportional voting here and we cant get rid of the assholes no one wants either...

evy97 05-08-2015 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20469504)
An individual vote for the person you want, rather than letting a political party choose the 100 odd people they want to represent you?

They do that in Spain, so the government is full of cunts you cant get rid off.

In theory, if the people of some village in Oxford thought David Cameron an ass, he could lose his job. It's happened before to some pretty big politicians.

But it is so wrong for a party likely to get the support of one in 10 voters to end up with only one out of 650 seats.

ianmoone332000 05-08-2015 09:54 AM

Shocking UKIP had millions of votes yet only translates to 1 seat. As for the tories, they have at least promised a referendum on our membership of Europe for 2017 so we might get lucky and get out of that and deal with immigration. Highly doubtful though. The tories will hold the referendum then campaign for us to stay in

Paul&John 05-08-2015 11:04 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEZlMbwW8AEgOc9.jpg

DVTimes 05-08-2015 11:08 AM

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rogueteens 05-08-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 20469640)
Shocking UKIP had millions of votes yet only translates to 1 seat. As for the tories, they have at least promised a referendum on our membership of Europe for 2017 so we might get lucky and get out of that and deal with immigration. Highly doubtful though. The tories will hold the referendum then campaign for us to stay in

it will be a very loaded referendum - UKIP wanted the vote only for British people, the Tories will allow everyone to vote so that means a 10 million vote head-start for the pro-EU campaigners.

rogueteens 05-08-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20469708)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
(Although the pedantic in me wants to point out that its a map of GB not the UK as Northern Ireland isn't on it!)

Shap 05-08-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20469475)
He is the tax cuts for billionaires guy or is that only in the US?

Not as much as the other guy wanted to run the rich out of london. The proposed changes he was talking about would have driven a lot of wealth out of london including possibly the banking sector itself (75% tax on bankers bonuses).

The UK is currently the top location in the world for wealthy people to move their wealth to. The labour party wanted to go after that money and try to tax it. The result would have been a mass exodus (much like france saw with Hollande). Not something the UK needs imo.

djroof 05-08-2015 11:46 AM

I think he told that british will vote to get out from economical EU...

Scott McD 05-08-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 20469417)
The biggest irony, the Scots handed the election to the Tories. :2 cents::2 cents:

Well we sure as hell weren't gonna vote Labour...

Paul&John 05-08-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20469741)
Well we sure as hell weren't gonna vote Labour...

Scots why do dislike Labours?

rogueteens 05-08-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20469744)
Scots why do dislike Labours?

Only idiots vote Labour, the sort of people who still think Labour stands for what it did when it was formed.

Paul&John 05-09-2015 12:24 AM

Ah didnt knew that :) Btw I always mix up Tories with Tony (Blair) the Bush ass licker

LetterTwenty7 05-09-2015 04:02 AM

he wants to repeal the fox hunting ban - so not good at all!
definitely a cunt for sure!

LouiseLloyd 05-09-2015 08:01 AM

http://i.imgur.com/91E6yiUl.jpg

roly 05-09-2015 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20469731)
Not as much as the other guy wanted to run the rich out of london. The proposed changes he was talking about would have driven a lot of wealth out of london including possibly the banking sector itself (75% tax on bankers bonuses).

The UK is currently the top location in the world for wealthy people to move their wealth to. The labour party wanted to go after that money and try to tax it. The result would have been a mass exodus (much like france saw with Hollande). Not something the UK needs imo.

What your talking about is the non dom law where many rich people who live in the UK for years don't pay tax on their foreign earnings. the US doesn't have this law and nor does most other first world economies. so if they want the benefits of living in the UK long term they have to pay tax like everyone else. Nothing wrong with that. If they don't like it and don't want to pay their way no one's stopping them From going.

Shap 05-10-2015 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly (Post 20470393)
What your talking about is the non dom law where many rich people who live in the UK for years don't pay tax on their foreign earnings. the US doesn't have this law and nor does most other first world economies. so if they want the benefits of living in the UK long term they have to pay tax like everyone else. Nothing wrong with that. If they don't like it and don't want to pay their way no one's stopping them From going.

I understand that point of view. But do you realize how much money it brings into the UK? Don't kid yourself the UK benefits as much from this rule as the rich people bringing their money in.

arock10 05-10-2015 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly (Post 20470393)
What your talking about is the non dom law where many rich people who live in the UK for years don't pay tax on their foreign earnings. the US doesn't have this law and nor does most other first world economies. so if they want the benefits of living in the UK long term they have to pay tax like everyone else. Nothing wrong with that. If they don't like it and don't want to pay their way no one's stopping them From going.

Well that's a nice loophole. But considering the UK is crimping their economy pretty hard right now via austerity I can see why it came up

datingbanking 05-10-2015 09:41 AM

15000 old people died of cold last winter. 10% of population at food banks.

Feudal system (it's 2015 FFS) toffs hunting animals like it's 1431.

Buy to let landlords so eager to exploit tenants, unaffordable real estate, no REAL
economy to speak off.

Might run out of electricity next winter.

Yes, that's the place to be....

Cherry7 05-10-2015 02:18 PM



The rich and the powerful had a little political theatre with all the media dis informing lying and frightening, and 20% of the stupid and corrupt voted for the nasty party.

They will now make the poorest and the weakest in society pay for the crisis caused by the richest and most corrupt.

The will also blame any social consequences on the evils of porn or UFOs or whatever...

roly 05-10-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20470594)
I understand that point of view. But do you realize how much money it brings into the UK? Don't kid yourself the UK benefits as much from this rule as the rich people bringing their money in.

Many of these people have lived in the UK all there life, but because their father was born in a foreign country they inherit the right to use this rule. That's just wrong. If they want the privalage oif living in the UK they should pay for it via tax like everyone else. No one knows how much would be generated by removing this rule. Some would move away but if they're not contributing their fair share its no great loss.

Jel 05-10-2015 03:30 PM

(edited to add: this is for the UK, I have zero knowledge of the system/process etc elsewhere :) )


only a complete and utter fucking spastic* still going on an inner belief system formed 20+ years ago, that was based on what their peers told them based on 20 years prior to THAT, thinks that in 2015 one party is for 'toffs' and another party is for the 'working man'.



Here's your 'working man' mentality:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...=1&pnref=story

Funny how not a peep was made about how 'unfair' it all was in 97,01,05, and being part of the coalition for the last 5 years since 2010. 20 years of labour and still somehow it's all the 'toffs' fault. what a bunch of fucking clowns the left really are... all politicians are wankers (pay peanuts, get monkeys) and ideaology is long gone by the time they hit parliament, but of those who DO vote, in a mistaken belief anything will ever change, those with left leanings take the cake for being moronic asshats.




*apologies to the genuinely mentally disabled who still have more brainpower than the whining cunts that can't stfu about how awful this democratic result is

Cherry7 05-11-2015 02:07 AM

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sites/...s_ge_chart.png

Who the newspapers voted for!

70% of UK newspapers controlled by 3 wealthy families,

No democracy if the access to information is only controlled by the 1%.

Shap 05-11-2015 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly (Post 20470984)
Many of these people have lived in the UK all there life, but because their father was born in a foreign country they inherit the right to use this rule. That's just wrong. If they want the privalage oif living in the UK they should pay for it via tax like everyone else. No one knows how much would be generated by removing this rule. Some would move away but if they're not contributing their fair share its no great loss.

That is possible. I wasn't referring to those non doms. I was referring to non doms that specifically choose the UK because of their tax situation. I'm one of those people and I can tell you while I'm a non dom I still paid a very hefty tax bill and have contributed more than a small village of labour supporters to the overall economy. I'm not trying to be a dick but just pointing out that the non dom situation adds more to the UK bottomline than the headlines would have you believe.

Shap 05-11-2015 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20471193)
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sites/...s_ge_chart.png

Who the newspapers voted for!

70% of UK newspapers controlled by 3 wealthy families,

No democracy if the access to information is only controlled by the 1%.

It's like that everywhere. Media outlets have huge influence.

Manfap 05-11-2015 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datingbanking (Post 20470787)
15000 old people died of cold last winter. 10% of population at food banks.

Feudal system (it's 2015 FFS) toffs hunting animals like it's 1431.

Buy to let landlords so eager to exploit tenants, unaffordable real estate, no REAL
economy to speak off.

Might run out of electricity next winter.

Yes, that's the place to be....

You need to live abroad for a few years, you'll realise that the UK actually is pretty well run.

SvenGun 05-11-2015 03:14 AM

If I have a choice who I can choose between all prime ministers, my choice is Tony Blair


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