Obama To Announce Boots On The Ground In Syria
 

US is sending special forces to Syria, under the premise of fighting ISIS. In fact, everyone knows they are being sent to support the rebels, fight the Russians and take out Assad....

Obama orders US special forces to 'assist' fight against Isis in Syria | World news | The Guardian

Obama Set To Announce US Boots On The Ground In Syria, Russia Threatens Deployment "Unacceptable" | Zero Hedge

First rule of US Fight Club:

(1) Never talk about fight club ie don't tell the public.

(2) If you can't piss off the Chinese, Try the Russians.

(3) If item (2) fails, then attack someone else.

(4) If item (3) fails, then we need a new attack plan.

War mongering Republicans.

Illegal no?

The United States needs to stay out of Syria. Fight ISIS, but that's about it.

Syria conflict: Obama to send special forces to fight IS - BBC News

Nice to see the propaganda machine in action...

The military should just tell him "no".

Doesn't work that way.

Obama just cleaning up Bush's mess.

it's the other way around- he should tell the military no.

In related news, I'll bet there are more than a few "operators" who are just fucking itching to get some trigger time against those ISIS hack troops.

Oh, after this: TASS: Military & Defense - Over 1,600 terrorist targets hit by Russian warplanes in Syria over past month

Im sure he just wants to give the Syrian people HOPE & CHANGE!

yeah, no. those #s don't add up. 50 aircraft total flew 1400 sorties in 30 days in the desert? no.

Wag the dog :2 cents:

I don't know enough about military flight operations, but that's only one sortie daily each aircraft. Granted some will not fly every day, but that still does not seem out of the realm?

Russia does, however, get more leeway in what they consider targets. Nobody expects them to be doing "good." Nobody gives a shit what they do. The alliance on the other hand, is at the "top" and being watched with a magnifying glass.

seems extremely exaggerated to claim that beginning on day 1 of the air campaign. having to setup ops, sort objectives and fly those all instantaneously seems like a bold claim only military spin doctors spin. just like the ones told to BO and the American people about how our air campaign was doing in Syria

either way, the move by BO seems a reactionary move to Ruskies.

After Russia started, there was a lot of articles and opinions coming out. Most every article by any military personnel in the world essentially said he needed to take action or the US was the new bitch. It was inevitable the minute Russia started moving.

according to CENTCOM, ruskies had flown only ~80 sorties 2 weeks into the campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ikes-in-syria/

Ruskies claim they flew 80 missions that day.

During 24 hours, aircraft of the Russian aviation group in the Syrian Arab Republic have increased the intensiveness of engagement of command centres, materiel concentration and storage areas of the ISIS terrorists : Ministry of Defence of the Russia

i agree, i had commented elsewhere earlier that they need to get the job done and get out, maybe they can run 80+ sorties a day with 50 aircraft in adverse conditions.'


the total airstrikes USA had on Syria for the year long BO campaign was ~2500.

It does, that's what the commissioned officers are for.
They take no oath to do the president's bidding. That's for the grunts.

Obama is only sending 50 ''advisers'' that will operate near the Turkish border (with the Kurdish resistance-rebels).

Sound familiar? They are an advance force? There is speculation of Syria being partitioned like Germany was after WW2 -- there are talks being held between the US, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Iran about Syria -- Assad and the rebels were not invited :upsidedow

when did the USA actually win? was it in iraq? or afghanistan? or vietnam? or korea? all spectacular failures...even ww2 was won by russia all the USA did was nuke fishermen to make one guy ruling crippled japan surrender..

is there a war the US army was in where the USA can say: things are now better?

no?

I have no idea why you guys are sending your army anywhere honestly speaking :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Are they being sent there to die? To drum up support for a ground invasion?

Or will they accidentally-on-purpose be sent to an area that's a likely target for Russian bombers, to make the Russians look like the bad guys for fighting ISIS?

Either way, I feel sorry for those people being sent. And I hope they survive that shithole.

Anyone remember when we went into Kuwait, blew the shit out of the Iraqi army, and left with mission accomplished in like a week? Those glory days are long gone. Any Middle-Eastern military operation the U.S. has been involved in after Kuwait has been nothing short of a total clusterfuck. So hey, let's start another full ground invasion "we don't even know what our goal is" clusterfuck war in Syria fighting ManBearPig.

That's really astute. Good chance they'll try to set up the Russians in some way, shape or form so they can increase the war.

If you want to pick a fight with a queen bee, you have to slap a beehive.

You dont seem to grasp the concept of the chain of command. The President is not referred to as the "Commander in Chief" just for fucking fun & games.

http://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/fig4-1-300w.gif

More than 800,000 refugees RETURNING to Syria as Putin OBLITERATES Islamic State
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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh that article was sarcasm ...

Nice Damascus suburban (bombed-out) neighbourhood. The aerial attack was the work of the Assad government ...

You are a dumbass. The only reason Russians aren't speaking German today, is because the US and the Brit hit Hitler's supply lines in Africa.

Russia was done, Hitler controlled the air and was bombing your ruble to smaller bits of ruble. The only reason Russia was given a fighting chance wad because Hitler had to send most of his air forces to Africa to fight Americans and the Brits..

You dumb russians really need to lean actual history..

Not to mention the US also won the war aginst Japan..

Please also tell us of the great Russian naval battles of WW2... Also tell us of the many Russian bombing raids over Germany...

lol ....

how many flags you own ?

the problem with your reasoning is that you try to avoid engaging with the issue at hand, and instead try to shift attention to baseless extreme hypotheticals...a pathetic attempt at tainting the merits of my original arguments by unsubstantiated conjecture...if the USA did not hit supply lines in africa aliens from outer space would have raped us to death...

FYI: you nuked fishermen 2x in war torn crippled japan...some victory LOL...

The problem with my reasoning, is you know I'm fucking right.. The only people in the world more brainwashed about the significance of their involvement during WW2 than Russians is North Koreans..

Do you realize how fucking stupid you Russians look with your ignorant statements claiming "you" won WW2? You guys look like arrogant jackasses because you are.. Even the Chinese are not as fucked up and brainwashed as you fucks..

wW2 was a joint effort.. Lots of countries were involved and Russians sure as hell did not "win" WW2 as if they were the ones doing everything..

Funny; it did the first time they tried to dupe us:

http://i.imgur.com/Iot5meF.jpg

As a self -proclaimed former Jarhead you sure do know how things work.

reality: the USA lost just as much soldiers in ww2 as shit hole yugoslavia did :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and a good portion of that was in the pacific...

so you could say yugoslavia did more in europe than the USA did in ww2 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stalin was a big dick playa, swinging past the knees, the most important man in the world, and this hurts your thin skin :321GFY

you guys demonstrated your competence in vietnam where you got your asses handed to you buy asian farmers HELOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is reality calling crockett :1orglaugh:1orglaugh you dropped more bombs than in all ww2 combined and LOST ho ho ho ho ho

you fucking lost half of korea LOL...asain farmers applied no lube LOL

the US army took small asian sausage up the butthole! ho ho ho

how funny is it when you claim russia would be speaking german if it was not for the USA but in reality you cant even keep small asian sausage from being up your ass? answer: very funny! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

back to my point: you lose a LOT, maybe you should just let big dick playa putin swing past the knees, and keep your loser army at home :2 cents:

crockett you need to read more books :winkwink:

Obama put the U.S. in a war with the Russians. Thanks:disgust

Stalin was the reason Russia lost 20 million during WW2... Don't cry that the U.S. Was smart enough not to make unarmed troops be bullet shields for the few Russians who actually had guns.

Stalin's tactics were.. Make everyone run at the German machine gunner in hopes he runs out of ammo..

i don't think so
soldiers of the USA will settle down at Kurds, there many volunteers from Russia are at war with isis
the topic is not about the World War 2
PS: 20 million of losses are losses among the civilian population in Ukraine and Belarus generally.

For better or worse that has been the story of foreign affairs under the Obama administration.

Remember, the Republicans called it "Leading from behind".

In my humble opinion...I have no idea what the fuck our military is doing there anyway.

It's none of our business. I hear the war mongers on the news channels screaming that: "We are giving Syria to Russia"

WTF???

1. Syria isn't "ours" to "give"
2. Syria is a long time ally of Russia
3. Who gives a fuck?

4. Syria is closer to Russia (greographically).
5. Russia has a base in Syria.
6. Who gives a fuck?

That's odd; I didn't read any articles that implied Russia was making the United States their bitch.

The truth is this is a Russian problem. Syria has always been in the Russian sphere of influence. It's stunning that Russia allowed this go on for so long without taking action. Putin is all about "taking action" and is trying to give off the impression that the government is strong and it's military is strong. You would think Putin would have been all over this.

How would Russia sending in it's military into a country it's dominated for decades make the United States into Russia's bitch?

From a military standpoint, this is stunning. Russia and the United States will both have military forces operating in combat roles in the same country. From a political stand point this is stupid and dangerous - We have different goals in Syria, and Russia if fighting forces are supporting.

We need to stay out of this mess.