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''Massive" Russian and French Airstrikes on ISIS yield squat
33 IS fighters killed by French and Russian air strikes: Monitor | Middle East Eye
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Going to be a long tough fight against those bastards unfortunate
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I dont get why people are such pussies when It comes to this shit, specially if your Canadian and all we've seen is white terrorists. The best way to fight, which you can hear from pretty much every solider that's gone and done it, that it needs to be done with intel gathering and special opps.
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I keep hearing how the French President is "taking action" and "taking charge" and "taking the fight to the enemy" while Obama is doing nothing. France dropped some bombs in ISIS while the United States has been dropping bombs for two years.
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bombing does not work...the USA dropped more bombs on asain tiny dick farmers than all bombs in history combined and still lost...
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at least people have started concentrating on the libya problem
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i like how BO declared isis is contained moments before isis attacked France.
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Obama is taking flak for drawing a line in the sand, and when Assad crossed it, Obama balked at the threat. And his outright refusal to even say the words "Radical Islam". Even Hillary won't say the words. With leaders like that, who needs immigrant terrorists?!?! |
You cant win with bombs alone.. Have to get boots on the ground. Route them out... Only way.
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I am all for boots on the ground, but only if we are going to be serious about it. We need to build a massive base in the middle of Iraq and say "We will be here for the next one hundred years". And then stay there. The Iraqi government and military is unable to handle this on it's own. Clearly Obama was wrong by pulling out troops when we did. This is not going to be a ten or twenty year commitment - this will be at least the next forty or fifty years. |
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Meanwhile in North Korea http://i.imgur.com/T7xJKuP.jpg Meanwhile at the White House http://i.imgur.com/IBvUxHy.jpg |
thank fucking god retards like rochard are far far away from being in charge of anything.
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It's the name calling that brings them to their knees. :1orglaugh |
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He pulled them out before 10k more US soldiers were killed over there and refocused on Afghanistan. It's just a silly dream that the US was ever going to control Iraq. Bush had plenty of time to do all this great shit that Obama supposedly "refuses" to do. ISIS : The group originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004. The group participated in the Iraqi insurgency that followed the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, it joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council, which proclaimed the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) in October 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islami...and_the_Levant |
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I'm not trying to fight Islam homie; because we'd fucking lose that one hands down. We might be able to defeat the terrorist though. :helpme |
They are all over the world so this is endless
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Much like in Afghanistan when Bush wouldn't bomb targets in Pakistan the enemy knew they could cross the border and hide. When Obama came to office he started hitting them in Pakistan and took all kinds of political heat mainly from the Right but by doing that he was very effective and eventually dismantled for the most part al Queda and the Talib an ability to fight back. |
only way to win is to ban the media.
fucking bleeding hearts cry over every win. ban the media and i bet in one year they could steam roll the whole area |
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truth be told, the worst part about the bombing was power outages, I was playing half life during the US bombing and it would be a complete nuisance to have to save status so much so you can imagine how much shits the "ready to die for allah extremist" gives... Quote:
even if you bombed their civilians, as I am sure the US gov would LOVE to do, it would just make other countries speed up the nuke research, because they would know what to expect from the USA and would take appropriate action... you guys are just 5% of the world...we are not going to listen to you...you will learn this the hard way or the easy way... |
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right, so you're back to your 99.5% of muslims are nice but as soon as they catch up to technology and get a bomb they're bombing USA. the lingering effects of shell-shock are very apparent in you |
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Again, we need to make a decision. We need to continue what we are doing which is less than effective, or go all in with tens of thousand of troops on the ground for the long haul. Right now the public is calling for action, and rightfully so. But two years from now when one thousand US servicemen have come home in body bags the public will say "What are we fighting for?" and "We weren't attacked - why are we still there". And then we'll have the discussion "ISIS has been defeated, it's time to come home" without understanding that we have defeated ISIS as a group, but not the ideology of racial Islam. |
the USA public is very much calling for NOT sending troops or special forces into action against isis.
The new Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 65 percent oppose sending special forces to the region, a move that has already been taken by Obama. When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops. Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-france-shooting-usa-poll-idUSKCN0T528Y20151116#BRVozowszSRcUKYh.99 |
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The problem with Vietnam is that there was too many restrictions as to what our military can or could not do. The military needs to be able to do it's job, not have restrictions saying "You can't bomb this city" and "You can't go into this country". If the enemy is in Laos and Cambodia, then that's where our military needs to attack. Same thing with Hanoi - We should have flattened the city. Instead we drew a line in the jungle and said "do not cross". That gave them a large base to continue their efforts, and they attacked the southern half of the country by going into other countries. If we put boots on the ground to fight Iraq, we need to go all in with no restrictions. |
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ask the few vietnamese that survived if communism is worth going through that shit again.
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You hit the nail on the head. Vietnam proved two things: The U.S. doesn't need to get in a "quagmire" war. And bombing won't win. And it seems our govt. forgot both of those things when dealing with this. |
33 dead jihadists at a cost of how much? The Coalition needs to learn that these expensive air strikes are not the way to defeat these guys. They can kill 129 people with 8 terrorists and a few grenades, rifles and home made suicide belts. I'm not an expert in how much all that stuff costs but I bet its fractions of the cost of 1 missile.
Good on France for responding, Russia too but these guys are expecting this and as someone already mentioned, have already gone underground. |
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You're such a dumb fucking piece of shit... |
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