Diesel to advertise on Pornhub and YouPorn
 

Diesel to advertise on Pornhub and YouPorn

Should this work and other mainstream companies follow. It spells the end for so many here. Porn will stay alive, consumption figures will still grow. The "No money in porn." phrase will only apply to those who sell it.

Will it stretch to Dating and Cams? You bet it will.

Big mainstream companies starting to advertise on porn sites is a good thing.

is a good thing for big tubes

I'm not sure about this. If huge mainstream companies like Diesel advertise on porn sites, CPM rates will increase a lot and all other porn sites, who can't compete with those companies, will lose their spot. The only winners would be the tubes. Again.

For porn it's great. It ensures billions can not get their porn for free. For those working in porn, it might not be so great. Why bother with affiliates when all it needs is adverts on the big tubes, why bother with a middleman selling adverts when the big boys go direct, why bother shooting porn when membership sales aren't plentiful enough.

Even private shows will be hit when girls do it for free with advertising paying them? The 1-1 will only apply to girls who have a real personality to sell.

Think of it in terms of free TV and paid TV channels, not the delivery service. Can we provide the level of quality that Amazon, Netflix, HBO provide versus the free channels paid by advertising?

You are a sad old man, completely out of touch with reality and how the Money flows these days. It's like you have been listening to yourself for so long, you only see your own fucked up image of how things are.

Most of the big sites have always cut out the middleman - that is what Cybercat Inc did in the golden days, where they sold ads directly on the major traffic sources.

Today the traffic sources have changed, and so have the major players, but the businessmodel is the same.

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Good for them??

Pornhub is not "street". Diesel should put ads on Rescator, Silk Road Spawns, or Carder Forums. That is "street".

Porn is boring. Even Pornhub's simulation of Child Molesting with a doll is lame.

No it wont, they are buying advertising there because the CPM in porn are the cheapest there are, and what they are looking for is exposure and this type of ads in newspapers, if you compare the CPMs in porn versus those in mainstream (Adwords specifically) you will understand why it makes sense.

This :2 cents: it's AMAZING how low the CPM is in porn.

Indeed
Its cookie-stuffing without the cookie, if you Know hot to use Adwords/adsense targeting. I Use it on humor sites as well, since its dirt cheap to buy banners there

- this has happened many times before.

- there will be an uproar on social media and in a few days the ads will be pulled and apologies and donations given to advocates for sexually exploited and abused women and human trafficking organizations and life will go on.

- your time on this planet is short. get another hobby instead of listening to the same loops running through your head and typing them on a message board to strangers none of whom give a shit.

while i see the strategy, i stand by the opinion that local fmcg would sell better. like "why not order a pizza while you're at it? you'll be hungry anyway"

I have always said the more you give away, the less people will buy. And the business model is the same, all that happens is people try to give away more.

Time will prove me right again.

True. These companies advertise for branding, so the costs v return. Isn't paramount.

We shall see.

As for my time. I have more of it than you. So I can waste it as I please. Unlike you.

I think gaytube.com would be more appropriate


PS: I do have diesel shirts and 4 pairs of watches. :Oh crap

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Thankfully someone gets it. 100% this. Diesel compete for traffic in mainstream and pay 20-30-40x the CPM they would on porn sites. They can get vast exposure to hundreds of millions of users per day by setting up a media plan for adult websites at a very low cost relative to their current market.

They could spend $100k a month branding their range on a porn site, it's a drop in the bucket to them. Not to mention the fact they can diversify the campaigns, looks, style for every market with a very simple set up, meaning they can be truly global. This is a good thing.

op- people don't go to pornhub because of a diesel ad. and more ads don't increase the cost, more viewers do.

think.

So, 8 watches?

while I dont think that a mainstream company will do this, it would be incredable for the industry if they did.

why?

go try to use your american express card on a pay site. adult is still the bastard child of the internet. any step closer to mainstream we can get, we become more legitimate. credit card processing, search engine, hosting, social media.... have some vision instead of talking about fifteen years ago

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There have been a lot of mainstream ads and advertisers on big tubes over the years. Absolutely nothing new to anyone paying attention or doing media buys. Certainly not something that's going to change anything. Ad rates are driven by people who have their shit targeted, filtered and dialed in like no one else.

Anyone just trying to jump in to get eyeballs will learn some expensive lessons as all others have before them. It's not like you can target clothing buyers and convert them as effectively as you can someone who wants a bigger penis, a date, to learn to pick up girls or someone looking for MILF Porn.

This is not rocket science to understand for anyone who's is actually an online marketer and that actually sells online and does media buys.

But then again, this place is a refuge for idiots who don't know they're idiots. Kinda like The Matrix for retards.

Good for them. More mainstream companies should follow suit.

I first did a small test on my ticket brokerage site like two years ago and actually made some sales from some rather cheap adult traffic. Some wanker bought a premium set of Cher tickets I recall. :2 cents:

Quoted for truth.

Dumb mainstream marketers who don't do test buys will figure out some HARD lessons...

Things will get DARWINIAN on them really quick.

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Diesel is not going to sell their clothes on pornhub or youporn, pls use common sense, they are a big fashion brand, they not going to ruin it dirty or make it cheap. Reason they give porn campaign a shot is the audiences on pornhub and youporn are vastly 18 - 30 yrs range, and mostly men, Diesel is not going to sell porn, it is selling an attraction, probably in their ads featuring super model women, I dont think they will use pornstars. wearing their jeans or cloths, look youthful and cool and sexy, will get alot of attentions from young men or nice looking male. They will make the advertisement/ banner or wutever ads as sexy as possible, brainwash those horny dudes checking out porn, they will think girls in diesel are hot as hell, eventually this type of idea will spread mouth to mouth, through their girlfriends, their classmates, their peers. And female will buy diesels to impress guys. Like a viral video, spread like fire.

CPC in adult is cheap, they get test it for alot of time and hit one jackpot viral theme, its easier to brand like that instead of traditional mainstream cpc. I also think its more effective then branding it on social media where socialize is the main objective. But porn, its already has that Female/Male attractions on the viewers, its easier to brainwash them even more.

Please also remember, big companies have alot of cash, and to them, advertisement priority is to build better brand, they have a budget to throw in branding every monthly, they are always testing for more effective approach to brand their name and idea. Its the idea thats very important. Please do not think they spend x amount of dollars in adult campaign and hope to get a conversion rate of x amount and will sell x amount of cloths to make x dollar profit back. This is novice retailer approach and beginner business thinking also short sight viewing.

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that's my point. It's super cheap - for now. What if more and more mainstream companies, used to spend millions in marketing, start buying ads on porn tubes ? They will overbid and CPM will raise. That's simple supply & demand mechanism.
Of course, this scenario applies only if lot of mainstream companies do that which is highly unlikely.

It increases profits for the major tubes, they improve their sites, putting more paysites in jeopardy.

When you learn how Branding truly works outside the porn industry. You might understand.

Companies like Diesel don't work on advertising, in the same way, little porn webmasters do. They don't look at the TV ads and relate it to sales the next month. They're establishing a brand, style and trend.

Do you really think Calvin Klien itemise CPM on how many sales they make in stores after this went up on a billboard?

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Of course not. Think of it in terms of have a free bar at a porn show.

Once Tubes are tapped into a market that doesn't care about CPM, like those with little money to spend. They can expand and expand. How much of that trickles down to the little guys is the question?

Because mainstream will take over Tube advertising, making the CPM unprofitable for the people who now rely on it.

The only balance is the return for submitters to Tubes in getting enough buyers from a clip to make it profitable.

Looking long term, imagine a day when enough money is raised by advertising to pay for content production, and not rely on membership sales. It's possible.

Serious companies with a serious marketing effort don't spend money to "brand" a product by putting it in front of people who are not at all interested. If you knew anything at all about media buys or If you had a clue what it takes to even get an ad noticed, much less clicked, , you'd understand what a waste of time this is. Just like it has been for every other mainstream attempt to advertise on tubes. ... and there have been many.

Paul, you flunked out of adult, even with your massive library of mediocre content. At your best, you've admitted to making very little when others were making millions.

Accept that business just isn't for you and move on. You aren't doing 100 joins a day with your content because you are a complete fucking retard, with no clue at all of how to make money or run a business or how to market a product, not because you wanted to "retire".

I could give you 100k for media buys and you'd never make it work because you think you know and understand 110% when you only understand 10%. .... but we all know you sit here and lecture all day long as if you invented it and are an expert, though you've never done it and can't do it.

Your whole life for almost 10 years now has been fully dedicated to non stop explaining of how others made you fail. The simple truth is that the people who have their shit together are doing just fine.

markham, you brianiac, you think tubes don't have enough money now to "improve" their sites?

and a diesel ad campaign now gives pornhub the extra cash it so needs to improve?

and that all advertising/marketing is simply brand-building and not at all sales-driving?



you're a natural at trolling.

People still have no concept of how much money tube sites make. Then when you do the math FOR them, they switch to "oh, well they should be making a lot more" as if being the biggest businesses in adult ever online is a waste of time.

It's like talking 9 year olds because the entire point is always to keep repeating the narrative "tube sites made me fail". AND, this is now going on for a decade.

I buy a ton of tube traffic, I know exactly what it's worth, I know what their traffic levels are and I can extrapolate revenues with a fair degree of accuracy.

with more mainstream advertisers maybe xvideos can afford to buy paul's content blowout package. :2 cents:

It gives them far more than they have.

It's not the sales driven exercise people like you can understand.

Squealer. Sorry I forgot who you were and you had to follow me, an obnoxious guy, around for the day.

Still are you saying the Tube audience don't buy pants?

markahm and his circular "logic"

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