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SuckOnThis 01-19-2016 07:47 AM

Neuroscientist: Trump has a mental disorder that makes him a dangerous world leader
 
According to a number of top U.S. psychologists, like Harvard professor and researcher Howard Gardener, Donald Trump is a ??textbook? narcissist. In fact, he fits the profile so well that clinical psychologist George Simon told Vanity Fair, ??He??s so classic that I??m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops.? This puts Trump in the same category as a number of infamous dictators like Muammar Gaddafi, Napoleon Bonaparte, and Saddam Hussein. And although there are narcissists out there who entertain us, innovate, or create great art, when a narcissist is given immense power over people??s lives, they can behave much differently. As the 2016 presidential election grows nearer we must ask ourselves, if elected president would Donald Trump act on the behalf of the will of the people, or would he behave more like a dictator??silencing any dissenting voices, perpetually refusing to compromise, and being oppressive to certain groups? To answer that, we should ask a little bit more about what makes a narcissist tick, and how they tend to behave when given free rein.

What is it exactly that makes someone a certifiable narcissist and not simply a person who has a healthy amount of confidence and a burning desire to achieve great goals? According to the Mayo Clinic, narcissistic personality disorder is ??a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others.?

Trump??s shortage of empathy can be seen clearly by his stances on topics like immigration. Instead of recognizing that the data shows that most Mexican immigrants are not violent, but instead people simply looking for a place where actual opportunity exists, with a broad brush he claims that they are ??criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.? In a similar vein, Trump has vowed to ban all Muslims from entering the country should he be elected. It appears that his lack of empathy has distorted his mind??s ability to grasp the fact that the refugees he speaks of are actually seeking safety from the same murderous maniacs that he wants to keep out. Perhaps if Trump had relatives in countries like Syria and Iraq, he might understand the constant fear that most live under, and in turn become more willing to welcome them with open arms rather than leaving them to be slaughtered.

But a lack of empathy is just one part of narcissistic personality disorder. Just beneath the surface layer of overwhelming arrogance lies a delicate self-esteem that is easily injured by any form of criticism. We have all seen Trump unjustifiably lash out at a number of people with harsh and often extremely odd personal attacks. When he thought he had been treated unfairly by Fox News host and Republican debate moderator Megan Kelly, he responded by calling her a ??bimbo? and later saying that she had ??blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.? In response to the strange, misogynistic comments Kelly said that she ??may have overestimated his anger management skills.? If the news host would have pegged him as a bona fide narcissist from the beginning she might have expected such shamelessly flagrant behavior.

To be fair, it is certainly true that all narcissists are not terrible people. Some of our most beloved celebrities and musicians have been suspected narcissists, including Elvis Presley, Marlon Brando, Kanye West, and even Alec Baldwin. Not only are these decent people, some have also done a lot of good through philanthropic work. Surely Donald Trump has more in common with these individuals than he does with a psychopath like Saddam Hussein.

There is no doubt that this has been true of the past, yet there is one critical difference between those people and Trump or Saddam. Only the latter two were in or are pursuing positions as heads of state??a role that grants enormous power over world affairs and people??s lives. While a narcissistic personality might be one of the traits that allowed Trump to be such a successful businessman and reality TV star, it is also the trait that makes him potentially dangerous as a political leader.

What happens when another world leader who is a loose cannon doesn??t give Trump the admiration that he feels he deserves? We can be sure that notoriously anti-American dictators like Kim Jong-un of North Korea or Iran??s Supreme Leader Khamenei aren??t going to give him any respect, let alone praise. How would a President Trump react when he feels he is being put down or undermined? Will we see the start of World War III because the leader of the most important nation in the world doesn??t feel that others are kissing his ass as much as they should be? Narcissistic personality disorder is known to have strong negative effects on relationships, and when it comes to being an effective and responsible world leader, diplomacy is everything.

A neuroscientist explains: Trump has a mental disorder that makes him a dangerous world leader


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Paul Markham 01-19-2016 07:56 AM

All leaders need to be a bit narcissistic. Trump just goes a little too far.


just a punk 01-19-2016 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704272)
According to a number of top U.S. psychologists, like Harvard professor and researcher Howard Gardener, Donald Trump is a ??textbook? narcissist.

I always thought it's a personal Obama's thing.

http://www.therightplanet.com/wp-con...narcissist.jpg

DamnSexy 01-19-2016 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704272)
We can be sure that notoriously anti-American dictators like Kim Jong-un of North Korea or Iran??s Supreme Leader Khamenei aren??t going to give him any respect[/IMG]

Actually i wonder if any European country would give him any respect too. Let's be honest, most of people see him as a fool.

onwebcam 01-19-2016 08:23 AM

I think it's pretty a well known fact that you have to be a complete nutjob to be President of the US.

dyna mo 01-19-2016 08:27 AM

you know it's pseudo-science when a diagnosis (by a neuroscientist at that!) is made from 1000 miles away across the internet based on sound bites.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-19-2016 08:31 AM

I wonder what's next, media exposing Trump pulling a cat's tale and pissing on a doghouse when he was 5 yo, including a 2 hour in depth analysis by a group of prominent psychologists in prime time with 5 re-runs? They really are running out of ideas already.

I also dig the comprehensive commentary labeling someone as massively dangerous based on his TV and mass-media persona. While it perhaps doesn't take a genius to spot that DT likes to be seen, heard and talked about. Applying the same measures (examining someone based on his TV persona) to all these sterile, ber politically correct, double talking career bureaucrats, would surely lead to the finding that these are the second incarnation of Jesus Christ, the best for everybody and an epitome of all good left on the planet earth.

What's lost is that there's something that makes the current and recent "leaders" line up massively more dangerous - such as their actions (and lack of it alike) leading to absolutely horrid results.

2MuchMark 01-19-2016 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704272)
According to a number of top U.S. psychologists, like Harvard professor and researcher Howard Gardener, Donald Trump is a ??textbook? narcissist. In fact, he fits the profile so well that clinical psychologist George Simon told Vanity Fair, ??He??s so classic that I??m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops.? This puts Trump in the same category as a number of infamous dictators like Muammar Gaddafi, Napoleon Bonaparte, and Saddam Hussein. And although there are narcissists out there who entertain us, innovate, or create great art, when a narcissist is given immense power over people??s lives, they can behave much differently. As the 2016 presidential election grows nearer we must ask ourselves, if elected president would Donald Trump act on the behalf of the will of the people, or would he behave more like a dictator??silencing any dissenting voices, perpetually refusing to compromise, and being oppressive to certain groups? To answer that, we should ask a little bit more about what makes a narcissist tick, and how they tend to behave when given free rein.

What is it exactly that makes someone a certifiable narcissist and not simply a person who has a healthy amount of confidence and a burning desire to achieve great goals? According to the Mayo Clinic, narcissistic personality disorder is ??a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others.?

Trump??s shortage of empathy can be seen clearly by his stances on topics like immigration. Instead of recognizing that the data shows that most Mexican immigrants are not violent, but instead people simply looking for a place where actual opportunity exists, with a broad brush he claims that they are ??criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.? In a similar vein, Trump has vowed to ban all Muslims from entering the country should he be elected. It appears that his lack of empathy has distorted his mind??s ability to grasp the fact that the refugees he speaks of are actually seeking safety from the same murderous maniacs that he wants to keep out. Perhaps if Trump had relatives in countries like Syria and Iraq, he might understand the constant fear that most live under, and in turn become more willing to welcome them with open arms rather than leaving them to be slaughtered.

But a lack of empathy is just one part of narcissistic personality disorder. Just beneath the surface layer of overwhelming arrogance lies a delicate self-esteem that is easily injured by any form of criticism. We have all seen Trump unjustifiably lash out at a number of people with harsh and often extremely odd personal attacks. When he thought he had been treated unfairly by Fox News host and Republican debate moderator Megan Kelly, he responded by calling her a ??bimbo? and later saying that she had ??blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.? In response to the strange, misogynistic comments Kelly said that she ??may have overestimated his anger management skills.? If the news host would have pegged him as a bona fide narcissist from the beginning she might have expected such shamelessly flagrant behavior.

To be fair, it is certainly true that all narcissists are not terrible people. Some of our most beloved celebrities and musicians have been suspected narcissists, including Elvis Presley, Marlon Brando, Kanye West, and even Alec Baldwin. Not only are these decent people, some have also done a lot of good through philanthropic work. Surely Donald Trump has more in common with these individuals than he does with a psychopath like Saddam Hussein.

There is no doubt that this has been true of the past, yet there is one critical difference between those people and Trump or Saddam. Only the latter two were in or are pursuing positions as heads of state??a role that grants enormous power over world affairs and people??s lives. While a narcissistic personality might be one of the traits that allowed Trump to be such a successful businessman and reality TV star, it is also the trait that makes him potentially dangerous as a political leader.

What happens when another world leader who is a loose cannon doesn??t give Trump the admiration that he feels he deserves? We can be sure that notoriously anti-American dictators like Kim Jong-un of North Korea or Iran??s Supreme Leader Khamenei aren??t going to give him any respect, let alone praise. How would a President Trump react when he feels he is being put down or undermined? Will we see the start of World War III because the leader of the most important nation in the world doesn??t feel that others are kissing his ass as much as they should be? Narcissistic personality disorder is known to have strong negative effects on relationships, and when it comes to being an effective and responsible world leader, diplomacy is everything.

A neuroscientist explains: Trump has a mental disorder that makes him a dangerous world leader


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That was a really interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

Paul Markham 01-19-2016 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnSexy (Post 20704289)
Actually i wonder if any European country would give him any respect too. Let's be honest, most of people see him as a fool.

He will hit a wall when it comes to Foreign Affairs. Some of his policies are sound, reducing migration, imports, Muslims. He goes about them in the wrong way.

Migration isn't solved by building a wall. Remove the lure of illegal migration, by fining companies that employ illegals so much they make sure they don't have any. Same with rented housing, healthcare, education, etc. Make sure there's no benefit other than not being killed.

Imports have to be balanced by exports. He has to say that.

Anyone who is likely to not integrate into the US society should be kept out. Exceptions for doctors.

But none of this can be solved the same way he solves a problem in business. He has to learn how to deal with politicians, bureaucrats and foreigners if he's to succeed. Watching the way he dealt with opposition to his golf course plans in Scotland, it was clear why he would make a bad President.

dyna mo 01-19-2016 08:58 AM

right markham, Trump's multi billion dollar real estate development businesses have never had to deal with politicians, bureaucrats, and foreigners.

pornmasta 01-19-2016 09:02 AM

there is no such thing as a wolrd leader

ilnjscb 01-19-2016 09:18 AM

Narcissism isn't that uncommon.

SuckOnThis 01-19-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20704375)
Narcissism isn't that uncommon.

Some narcissism is healthy, but Narcissistic Personality Disorder is more than just some girl that can't stop staring at herself in the mirror, and it is estimated about 6% of the population has it.

Helix 01-19-2016 09:40 AM

Obama is a narcissist but you don't take issue with him....hmm.

poncabare 01-19-2016 09:45 AM

A known liberal ran institution isn't in favor of a republican, much less a non status quo one at that? Shocking...

crockett 01-19-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20704345)
He will hit a wall when it comes to Foreign Affairs. Some of his policies are sound, reducing migration, imports, Muslims. He goes about them in the wrong way.

Migration isn't solved by building a wall. Remove the lure of illegal migration, by fining companies that employ illegals so much they make sure they don't have any. Same with rented housing, healthcare, education, etc. Make sure there's no benefit other than not being killed.

Imports have to be balanced by exports. He has to say that.

Anyone who is likely to not integrate into the US society should be kept out. Exceptions for doctors.

But none of this can be solved the same way he solves a problem in business. He has to learn how to deal with politicians, bureaucrats and foreigners if he's to succeed. Watching the way he dealt with opposition to his golf course plans in Scotland, it was clear why he would make a bad President.

You know, let's just be real here. Trump doesn't have policies he has sound bites. Yep, that's all he has is sound bites. You know, a real leader with a plan and policy wouldn't just talk about it and make a bunch of sound bites.. He'd show you his plans..

EddyTheDog 01-19-2016 09:50 AM

Is that really news to anybody?..

Joshua G 01-19-2016 10:02 AM

hey suckontard, who insults george carlin pretending to be him, george washington was a gigantic narcissist, & gambler. so fuck you!

:2 cents:

SuckOnThis 01-19-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20704448)
hey suckontard, who insults george carlin pretending to be him, george washington was a gigantic narcissist, & gambler. so fuck you!

:2 cents:


Says the guy who is still traumatized because some guy yelled at him and made him cry on a 9th grade field trip.


http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-con...+Some+Moms.jpg


Edit: Oops, my bad, it was an 8th grade field trip.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20704448)
one time, when i went on my 8th grade washington DC class trip, we visited the FBI. in the entrance was an xray machine, so being a kid i started watching what was on the monitor. a nasty asshat of an agent tersely yelled at me to rejoin my class. i spent the rest of the tour angry, hurt, holding back tears. i did nothing wrong. Fucking pig.

today, if that happened, i would file a lawsuit

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-19-2016 10:12 AM

the anti-Trumpsters are running out of time to get something right.

Robbie 01-19-2016 10:29 AM

I guess it's a good thing that we have 3 separate but equal branches of govt. and that the President is not a dictator able to do anything he wants.

The President will have to have great negotiating skills to get things done working with Congress.

I wonder if there's any candidates running for President with a proven track record of being great at getting deals done and negotiating with people from all over the world?

Robbie 01-19-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704462)
Says the guy who is still traumatized because some guy yelled at him and made him cry on a 9th grade field trip.


http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-con...+Some+Moms.jpg


Edit: Oops, my bad, it was an 8th grade field trip.




:1orglaugh

Holy shit man...I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about the mental state of a guy who not only remembers a post that someone else made about a topic like that...but also takes the time to use it as a way to cyber-bully that person and try to make them look bad because they didn't agree with you.

Sounds kinda "Trump-ish" on your part to me.

SuckOnThis 01-19-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20704488)
Holy shit man...I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about the mental state of a guy who not only remembers a post that someone else made about a topic like that...but also takes the time to use it as a way to cyber-bully that person and try to make them look bad because they didn't agree with you.

Sounds kinda "Trump-ish" on your part to me.


Right, it was about him 'not agreeing with me'. :1orglaugh

Your usual twisting bores me, as usual.

dyna mo 01-19-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704492)
Right, it was about him 'not agreeing with me'. :1orglaugh

Your usual twisting bores me, as usual.

what was digging that up about then?

baggg 01-19-2016 10:45 AM

Right, "rawstory.com" research.It's one of the top clickbait sites with titles like "10 place you think cats would never shit"
Why not link to 9gag or funnyjunk ?
:1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/QDC92ry.jpg

SuckOnThis 01-19-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704494)
what was digging that up about then?

It's not that difficult to show just how unhinged you Trump lovers are.

dyna mo 01-19-2016 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704503)
It's not that difficult to show just how unhinged you Trump lovers are.

apparently it is because i've told you directly and often that Bernie Sanders is my guy.

Robbie 01-19-2016 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20704492)
Right, it was about him 'not agreeing with me'. :1orglaugh

Your usual twisting bores me, as usual.

Sorry to bore you. I guess you feel you are so superior to everyone else (narcissistic) that it makes it boring for me to point out that anyone can be accused of narcissism.

It's just another convenient (and easy) way for a biased person (the neurologist in that link) to try and bring down someone that they don't agree with.

For instance, Pres. Obama has been "long distance diagnosed" as having a pronounced Narcissistic Disorder.
Just a convenient way to attack him by people who don't agree with him.

Fact is...I don't know you, but if you are in any way successful in this world, you are a bit of a "narcissist".
You have to have a big ego and a belief in yourself to do things at the levels that Pres. Obama has been operating on for the last 7 years. And that Trump has been operating on for the last 40 years.

Doesn't make either one of them like Mussolini (as your gif implied).

Hope I'm not boring you. You are so important, smart, clever, and rich. Whoever you are. lol

seeandsee 01-19-2016 11:07 AM

trump best candidate in america? for god sake

2MuchMark 01-19-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggg (Post 20704497)
Right, "rawstory.com" research.It's one of the top clickbait sites with titles like "10 place you think cats would never shit"
Why not link to 9gag or funnyjunk ?
:1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/QDC92ry.jpg


Fixed it for you

http://www.2much.net/bbs-pictures2/121.jpg

;)

mce 01-19-2016 12:20 PM




bronco67 01-19-2016 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20704420)
You know, let's just be real here. Trump doesn't have policies he has sound bites. Yep, that's all he has is sound bites. You know, a real leader with a plan and policy wouldn't just talk about it and make a bunch of sound bites.. He'd show you his plans..

It doesn't take much listening to his blather that he is saying almost nothing every time he speaks. There is no policy. There are no nuanced ideas for problems. It's just shit like, "we'll be the best. We'll build a wall. I'll bomb the shit out of them. We're going to do so much winning. I'll straighten out China. I'm going to make our military so strong."

Then just repeat that over and over and over until it's the ultimate truth to all of the braindead morons who go to his rallies and admire him so much. Admiring this clown is a serious character flaw.

sperbonzo 01-19-2016 01:47 PM

Trump is a total assclown, and, like all the rest of current candidates, has some serious character issues, but making a "diagnosis" from media clips is just ridiculous, and the sign of a very politically driven and unprofessional "neuroscientist".

It would be the same is some idiot "Dr." claimed that Bernie was "psychotically delusional" for his stance on student loans, since it is "plainly obvious" that the money doesn't exist to pay them all, even if you tax the 1% all 100% of their income.

Plainly this is political, NOT scientific.


Personally, I believe that Hillary is the most dangerously narcissistic megalomaniac candidate out there, but I still wouldn't accept a "diagnosis" based on her public media soundbites.



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CaptainHowdy 01-19-2016 01:53 PM

There is no such thing as long distance diagnosis ...

Rochard 01-19-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20704345)
He will hit a wall when it comes to Foreign Affairs.

I would venture that Trump would do poorly in a real debate with someone who has a lot of political experience. If you asked Trump to explain the Free Trade Agreement of 2006 and it's impact on the United States, he'll have no idea. If it's Hillary or Bernie asking the question, chances are they voted on it so they'll know all about it.

The other day Trump said he will force Apple to make their products in the United States. Trump doesn't seem to understand he cannot do that. He can't even put a tariff on such products; The President doesn't create laws only signs off on them. Even if he could - imagine what would happen if the cost of all Apple products went up 40%.

That's great that Trump wants to beat China, but how?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20704345)
Some of his policies are sound, reducing migration, imports, Muslims. He goes about them in the wrong way.

None of his policies are sound.

"We are going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it". Great sound bite but.... Building a real wall will cost billions, and there is no way hell Mexico is going to pay for it.

L-Pink 01-19-2016 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704768)

Personally, I believe that Hillary is the most dangerously narcissistic megalomaniac candidate out there, but I still wouldn't accept a "diagnosis" based on her public media soundbites.

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

muthisdev 01-19-2016 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704768)
trump is a total assclown, and, like all the rest of current candidates, has some serious character issues, but making a "diagnosis" from media clips is just ridiculous, and the sign of a very politically driven and unprofessional "neuroscientist".

It would be the same is some idiot "dr." claimed that bernie was "psychotically delusional" for his stance on student loans, since it is "plainly obvious" that the money doesn't exist to pay them all, even if you tax the 1% all 100% of their income.

Plainly this is political, not scientific.


Personally, i believe that hillary is the most dangerously narcissistic megalomaniac candidate out there, but i still wouldn't accept a "diagnosis" based on her public media soundbites.

ding ding ding ding. If GFY had a gold membership option like Reddit, I'd buy you gold.

JuicyBunny 01-20-2016 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704768)
Trump is a total assclown, and, like all the rest of current candidates, has some serious character issues, but making a "diagnosis" from media clips is just ridiculous, and the sign of a very politically driven and unprofessional "neuroscientist".

It would be the same is some idiot "Dr." claimed that Bernie was "psychotically delusional" for his stance on student loans, since it is "plainly obvious" that the money doesn't exist to pay them all, even if you tax the 1% all 100% of their income.

Plainly this is political, NOT scientific.


Personally, I believe that Hillary is the most dangerously narcissistic megalomaniac candidate out there, but I still wouldn't accept a "diagnosis" based on her public media soundbites.



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I was going to post something but you eloquently made my point. Thank you. Again.:thumbsup

ilnjscb 01-20-2016 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704768)
Trump is a total assclown, and, like all the rest of current candidates, has some serious character issues, but making a "diagnosis" from media clips is just ridiculous, and the sign of a very politically driven and unprofessional "neuroscientist".

It would be the same is some idiot "Dr." claimed that Bernie was "psychotically delusional" for his stance on student loans, since it is "plainly obvious" that the money doesn't exist to pay them all, even if you tax the 1% all 100% of their income.

Plainly this is political, NOT scientific.


Personally, I believe that Hillary is the most dangerously narcissistic megalomaniac candidate out there, but I still wouldn't accept a "diagnosis" based on her public media soundbites.

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Disagree, having met two of the four personally (Clinton and Trump); I'd say Ted Cruz is most likely to go Mussolini, Bernie Sanders will stare blankly and be a disaster.

This isn't the 1700s, Presidents should be 50s or over. Ted Cruz is an arrogant child. And Bernie Sanders should be kvetching about income inequality during chess matches in Washington Square Park.

dyna mo 01-20-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20705520)
Disagree, having met two of the four personally (Clinton and Trump); I'd say Ted Cruz is most likely to go Mussolini, Bernie Sanders will stare blankly and be a disaster.

This isn't the 1700s, Presidents should be 50s or over. Ted Cruz is an arrogant child. And Bernie Sanders should be kvetching about income inequality during chess matches in Washington Square Park.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you need to update yourself for thinking Sanders stares blankly and is a disaster.


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